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And all are probably better. Well Michy isnt and Chupo-Moting isnt but hes the ultimate squad player, small salary, play 4 different positions, plays 10-20 minutes most weeks/dead rubbers without any fuss when everyones fit. Morata has scored goals for Juventus, Real Madrid and also Spain (18 goals in 36 games). He has scored over 100 club goals in all competitions since 2014 playing for Juventus twice, Real Madrid, Atletico and us. Moise Kean is having an pretty good season in terms of goals at PSG, hes in double figures in all competitions IIRC. No way Tammy is going to go there and play every week particularly at PSG where their main 9 is probably Mauro Icardi who is a better player comfortably and Juventus who dont even always start Morata... Dortmund if Haaland goes, they would go for someone better undoubtedly. I think he’d maybe score goals but Michy did there and hes hardly an good player either. Maybe. His goal record isnt actually all too bad here in all comps I suppose for someone who hasnt got a huge deal of experience at a high standard, 30 goals in 80 games, but his general play hasnt kicked on much and that will limit him as a player because when the goals dont come he isnt any help to the team. Start of the season it looked like he has improved it a bit but he slowly regressed. I think regardless if he wants to stay or go, we will go for another number 9 of a high level. So the balls in his court. Tuchel has a reputation for improving players so it may be a big loss for him in terms of his career development if he goes and drops down to a smaller club perhaps. Although not necessarily as playing every week is also appealing and can help immensely. If he went to Leicester for example, but I can see Brendan Rodgers going for a reunion with Eduoard from Celtic, or even go to the other half of Glasgow for Morelos, as I think both will inevitably leave the Old Firm in the summer and if its a matter of Eduoard/Morelos or Abraham, I think theres no doubt who are the much better all round footballers.

I hope whoever wrote the article is seriously not suggesting Juventus, PSG or Dortmund will want to sign Tammy Abraham 🤣

Yeah that could be another way to go. I still dont know though, seems a lot to expect us to be a top team without an actual top number 9. City may mix it up and false 9 with Foden, Sterling, De Bruyne or whoever but theyve got Aguero and Jesus who is an adequate back up. Spurs have Harry Kane. Even United have got Edison Cavani. We need to make sure we get one, more so as Giroud is aging and Abraham really only looks capable of being a squad player at this level.

No idea. Haaland is the only name being linked which is alarming as you’d think as much as we would like to sign him there may be a chance we wont so we need a contingency plan. Cannot afford to go into next season with only Giroud, Abraham and Werner. Never going to close the gap to the top top teams with those 3.

I think if Paolo Maldini is able to convince him to go there in the first place its going to be difficult to get him back.... I think he will stay there. Also I think we will be open to negotiating the price.

Lets be honest, even with that context, it is still not great and with what, 12 games left, surely someone of his calibre should easily be looking to score more than 4 or 5 goals considering we have to play teams like Leeds, West Brom, Palace, Brighton, Fulham and Villa in those games who are much much more inferior than we are. Also, if he reaches say 10 goals, lets look at it now, inferior players such as Callum Wilson and Ollie Watkins have 10 PL goals already. Patrick Bamford has 13 PL goals already. He is tied for PL goals with players like David McGoldrick and Bobby De Cordova-Reid... its not great company if your a 25m signing yet alone a 52m one. I suppose we should be more worried if he doesn’t get over 10 although he would be close/over 10 if he didn’t miss those big chances but with 12 PL games left, he seriously has to start scoring regularly or hes probably not even going to get to 10. I mean he scored 4 PL goals under Frank in half a season, going from November to what February without a goal and 1 in the PL with Tuchel, who has been in charge for 6 PL games. Its not exactly a guarantee so heres hoping he gets to 10 at least. Although he will still be heavily criticised and rightfully so based on the 4 or 5 big sitters hes missed and to do with the majority of his performances and price tag.

Disappointed again. Hopefully next season he will be better. Has never got to grips with the speed or intensity in the PL and even in the European games. All of the summer signings bar Mendy, Silva and Chilwell (first 4-5 months with Frank) have disappointed greatly from what was expected.

Double post fs haha

Thats a poor excuse really. When its roles reversed and Alonso has filled in as a LB in a flat 4 despite being a wingback under Frank particularly, it wouldn’t be mentioned or your whole giving people slack thing either it seems to be very selective when its players people prefer over others. Also if Alonso was on instead of Chilwell and played like Chilwell did today, this thread would probably be totally different (not even debatable as there seems to be a massive percentage of users who are very selective in their criticism on here for other players because they “dont like them” or “think they should be replaced” yet if other people in the same positions play not well, its not mentioned. Which is precisely why I think if it were Alonso who played like this today, it would be a very different thread).... so thats the last I am gonna say about it now. I agree the team do crumble under pressure at times but someone like Jorginho who is always making himself available and is confident to take the ball under pressure helps that. Hes always showing for it, or telling people where to play it. Love him or loathe him, in possession he is a necessity at times. As is Kovacic, who can also dribble out of a press. I am surprised Tuchel didn’t play Jorginho, we have played better football with Frank and Tuchel having Jorginho, Kovacic and Mount in the starting 11. I just hope that Tuchel isnt going to go around the way Frank did by shoehorning Kante in instead of Kovacic, Jorginho or Mount at times as we seem to handle the ball better when those 3 all play. Like playing him v Southampton was a mistake. I understand maybe he was worried about United’s transitions but again if we are going to impose ourselves on the game and dictate possession, be it v a Man United or a Stoke City or whoever, Jorginho will be key until we find another player who can do the role better and maybe offer more physically.

No not very often either, that we can agree on but your making this out as if I am saying Alonso does all these things or is Roberto Carlos. I am not and as I said there I will say it again, I am comparing Alonso and Chilwell’s performances. People use this stick to beat Alonso saying he doesnt do these thing’s Chilwell apparently does, yet Chilwell plays and he does nothing? None of these things? He made that one run fair enough but I tend to remember him doing nothing else and didnt actually see any real improvement from the last game he played where he was taken off v Sheffield. Again as I said (which you’ve obviously chose not to read) I am not making Alonso out to be amazing or a top FB but hes played better than Chilwell recently and thats why I think its clear he will be TT’s first choice until Ben forces TT’s hand, which wont be from todays game. Also ok he didnt play today yes fair point, but hes played 523 minutes since the start of February. For someone who constantly moaned about Lampard overplaying players etc do you not think its also fair to assume that Tuchel may want to change players based on minutes or even just give someone else a chance? Chance given being more what I think Chilwells appearance was but ultimately a chance he never took. We had a lot of the ball, I dont know what more you expect Kante to do with the ball than what he did today. We seemed to not have a real control for 30 minutes of the first half and lost easy passes. United may have more pacey players but when you have most of the ball you want to be in control and thats why I felt Jorginho would of been more appropriate because there were moments where we weren’t really. He played v Spurs and Atletico who are counter attacking teams. Atletico also pressed up high in moments and we played out very well and he was a big part of that. The pace thing, its not like Spurs didn’t have Aurier, Son, Bergjwin, Sissoko who are all very quick when we played them or that Atletico dont have pace in their team either with Lemar, Correa, Felix... I mean United had Greenwood, Rashford, James in attacking areas. Its much and much the same amount of relatively fast players. Obviously some more quick but the points the same.

Yet he started v Atletico and Spurs? Who primarily counter attack also?

Did you see how many passes we gave away? Or how slow things got at times after our start in the first half? Kante did well recovering the ball, stopped a good counter 2nd half but again like v Southampton, in possession, not really effective.

You can keep saying about are we the only top side around with a slow FB/WB and whatever else but thats not the point here??? I am not saying Alonso is Roberto Carlos or whoever. What my whole point is based on, is performances, which you seem to neglect every time you pipe up about Alonso. Alonso in the games he played has done better than Chilwell did in that poor spell with Frank when he played every week and in the games he has had with Tuchel. That is clear to see. That is why he has started more often and thats why I think based on what Chilwell did today, why Marcos will start the next games. Chilwell may be more agile, quicker, take men on etc but if he doesn’t do it in a game how can you justify playing him over someone who’s performing better? I mean the whole Chilwell taking people on thing, how many times today did he just come back inside and pass it sideways/backwards? Thats always a point people make oh he’s better at taking people on, he played 90 minutes today I can’t remember him doing it. He didn’t impress me or look like he is someone who is trying to force themselves into the starting 11. Alonso is clearly Tuchel’s first choice based on selections under him so far and as long as he keeps performing as he has and Chilwell keeps playing how he has, it wont change anytime soon. Thats not to say Alonso is the best fullback thats lived or whatever but it says more about Chilwell and his performances than anything else.

Was it not an injury? Or should he have played him through it....

Best and most improved player under TT so far now IMO. Flawless again.

Wouldnt say he did anything of note to cement his role in the team. People have been clambering for him to play under TT because of a dislike for Alonso (who ultimately has performed when played) but Ben really didn’t look much better than he did when he was in that poor run in the team under Frank last year. So I can see him dropping out. Its based on the performance, you telling me that Chilwell played better than Alonso has in the run he has had under Tuchel? Or even looked much better than he did in that spell in the team under Frank today? If it wasnt Alonso you’d likely be agreeing - I didnt see anything that showed me today that he should be starting next week or that he really wanted to impress the manager. Or are you going to claim TT has a blindspot for Alonso if he starts him like you did when we said about him starting v Atletico 😂? Also another point unrelated, felt the back 3 were great and we really missed Jorginho. Kante did well to stop some counters and in some moments he did his thing getting the ball back but you could see he gave away some really easy balls in midfield. Particularly first half.

Mendy almost punching that shot straight to Martial. Fuck it 0-0 is better than a loss. Not even in the final third. Fair to say Chilwell and Ziyech probably wont be starting next game.

Werner unlucky there. Lindelof very good cover but what a ball. Thats the sort of delivery we need to see more often.

Werner coming on. Bit torn here, I dont think United are leaving huge gaps but we will also see if he can have an impact. Not fully convinced so time for him to try prove me wrong 🤪 Martial on for them, scored against us in both games last season...

Totally agree. 10 PL goals for 52m is not acceptable.

Totally agree. 10 PL goals for 52m is not acceptable.

Good job that Fernandes isnt getting the shooting opportunities that McTominay (I think it was him) and Fred got or it would be at least 1-0. Not been impressed with Chilwell or James since he came on, final ball has been poor most times. Has 0-0 written all over this.

Chillwell booked for a David Luiz esque tackle. Stupid as fuck obvious Greenwood was gonna knock it past him. Mount unlucky great run. Pulisic coming into the game by looks of it.

Lucky they never got a pen. Need to step it up, possession is good but need to do more with it.

Wouldn't say “no excuse” when AC Milan are only 4 points off and there is still games against Napoli, Roma and Juventus to be played for Inter. Plus Milan have Ibra, the man who seems to be defying age, who is more than capable of bringing them back to the top if Inter do drop points (Ibra is already a huge reason why they probably are up there this season). Inter are in the driving seat yes but saying he has no excuse would be like indicating they are 15-20 points clear or even in the position Man City are in. Its between the Milan teams for the title though, Juventus are out of it unless they amass some sort of huge run but can’t see it and Pirlo seems to be out of his dept slightly but when you have Ronaldo, anything is also possible. I hope Conte and Inter win it though, he is a top top manager, probably the best in Italy by a mile and think once he gets a first trophy they will kick on if they stick with him.