Pizy

United playing West Ham-ball. Park the bus on one end and hoof it up to Welbeck on the other. Fellaini is absolutely fucking terrible too. He looks as out of depth at that club as Moyes does.

I want Kroos SOOOO badly! Look at him here doing just the job we need for Bayern. Staying deeper and pinging around accurate passes while also getting forward now and then to get into scoring positions. Just so calm and elegant on the ball. The antithesis of Ramires.

It was such a stupid decision to go there in the first place knowing Zlatan is the main man. You get the sense that he regrets it. Was a pure money grab just like Falcao. Of course I'd still love him here, but PSG would probably demand what they paid for him or ask for Hazard in a swap since they're so desperate for him. Not happening. More of a chance we could get Falcao.

No, I think for this game specifically he was talking about Luiz as well. Remember that it was originally reported during the match that Luiz was substituted due to injury at halftime but after the match José said that it wasn't because of injury but a tactical sub.

We bought Zouma, though I haven't seen him enough to know if he's ready to play for us. Wouldn't call Luiz a world class CB either.I don't want us to sell him, but I just have a feeling he will be.

Surely he is one of the players José was alluding to with his latest comments about certain players letting him down in these matches against bad teams. He and Eden. They look brilliant against top opposition and then shrink against sides we should be blowing off the pitch like Palace. Honestly think José will cash in on him in the summer. I just get the feeling that he uses him out of necessity and that if he had someone who could naturally do what he does better he'd use them. He knows Ramires can't handle simple passes most of the time and that Lamps just can't cut it anymore so he plays Luiz there because he can actually make some decent forward passes and can get stuck in to tackles. He clearly doesn't trust or fancy him in defense and for the money we could get for him we can buy or partially fund an actual CM. As much as I love him I think his days here are numbered. If we can get £30-odd million for him and immediately use it to buy someone like Kroos or Gündogan or someone of that ilk then I'd do it.

I'm not the biggest Costa fan or advocate but after watching yet another pathetic display from Torres yesterday I don't care. I just want to start a season with a striker at the level of our competition instead of being hamstrung with bags of shit like we have the past few seasons. I think, and I hope, that José is going to go nuts in the summer and make this side one to be feared. If he thinks Costa is the man for us than so be it.

I actually respect Gerrard so that won't be the annoying part for me.

They may be able to sign a few good players but their squad is still far thinner and lacking the quality depth that all of the current top 4 have (when fit, in Arsenal's case).While at any given time we can bring Oscar, Schürrle, Willian, etc off the bench and City can bring Negredo, Nasri, or Dzeko on, when Liverpool go to their bench they have players like Aspas and Moses. Their squad is still light years behind ours and City's. It's going to take a few windows before they're on our level. Very nice first XI but no real game changers in the squad. I think they'll be battling it out for 4th spot next season when everyone around them strengthens and they have to play in Europe.

Seeing Liverpool win the title would be torture. Not just because of their supporters and the media creaming themselves over Rodgers and everything , but also because we played a pretty big role in their resurgence. We gave them £50m for a crocked, shit player and handed them a 20+ goal scoring striker for peanuts. We need to make damn sure we beat them and hope that City do too.

Same here, mate.Like I said in the live match thread, it's like we just assume because we have far superior players that we can just show up against sides like this and win on talent and stature alone. Like sides will just roll over and die for us. We need a few "killers" in our team who can't be contained against sides like today. You look at a player like Suarez who gets a single look at goal and buries it. He puts absolute terror in opponents. We have Torres out there who looks like he started playing football last week. There are sides in mid table who have strikers better than Torres. It's embarrassing for a side as big as us to have this useless lump leading our line. Mourinho knows it but can't say it in public. You just know he wants the summer to come ASAP so he can finally add the players he wants.

Yep. Missing a worthy striker and a dire lack of ideas in the final 1/3rd. We rely solely on individual brilliance from our AM's and if we don't catch sides on the break we're static and sluggish in and around the box. These are problems City and Liverpool don't have. They both have awesome strike forces and the likes of Silva, Yaya, Suarez, and Sturridge who can create something out of nothing or are clinical finishers. We need someone TOP CLASS next to Matic who can pull the strings and create and we need a striker who can not only score loads when we're playing well but also bail us out in matches like today where we struggle.

We know City are most likely going to win the title so I kind of want them to win today so that we still have a small gap over Arsenal. The way we looked today and since Stoke have been decent lately we may well lose that one too, so we need that cushion between us. What a depressing day. We blow aside one of the big dogs and then shit the bed against one of the worst sides in the league. We better address these problem positions in the summer ASAP. Torres is an embarrassment to the badge and a cancer to this team. Ship him the fuck out of this league.

I hope Torres never wears a Chelsea shirt again. Disgraceful player.

Our players should hang their heads in shame. Utterly terrible performance. Even our best players like Hazard and Matic continuously gave the ball away and if we were playing any clinical side we would've lost by many more. Instead of likely moving 9 points clear of Arsenal and putting pressure on City and Liverpool, we now have to be concerned about Arsenal again. If they win today they're only 3 points behind us. Sides like City and Liverpool wouldn't have lost this game today but we do time and time again. Likely title gone.

We're making Palace look like Real Madrid! Any decent side would be up 4 or 5-0 right now. By far our worst performance of the season.

We should be 2-3 down. TO FUCKING PALACE!!!

This is one of the most embarrassing performances since the AVB era.

I'm sure PSG and Liverpool are shaking in their boots watching us right now. Against nearly every small team we look like this. Infuriating.

We look completely rattled. As if we just expected Palace to roll over for us. Terrible, terrible start.

It's looking like one of THOSE games, isn't it? WAKE THE FUCK UP!

So in their 2 matches following them beating us Villa have looked atrocious. Sigh.

Looking at the Palace XI, if we lose this it'll be extremely embarrassing. Terrible side. 3-0 to us I'll say.

Rooney standing completely still and without a defender within yards of him inside the Villa box. Incredible. Why couldn't Villa defend like this in our match? Cunts.

He'd start for plenty of decent sides across Europe so it wouldn't surprise me at all if he wanted off. He can't be happy with just being the guy who comes on in the 75th minute or later to basically stand on the ball. Would be great for both parties if he moved on. Lamps too. That way we can finally bring in the CM maestro we need to partner Matic.