didierforever

there is a difference between a rumor and such heavy links. barca's president has himself said that they want to sign turan. http://www.espnfc.com/story/2512664/luis-enrique-asked-barcelona-to-sign-arda-turan-bartomeu

sure. was just correcting some of the facts there.

you sir, have literally said, everything i wanted to say in a manner which is not offensive!!! thank you.. now i am just going to copy paste this most of the times people bring goals.

perfectly put. and thats one of the reasons why i think turan would be very good for us. has all the right ingredients to be a jose winger. physically strong, insanely hard worker (believe me, covering for juanfran is as bad is not worse than covering for iva), he definitely has the fight in him, and has already thrived in the same or similar role in atm which he would get at chelsea. his final product is a worry. but so is willian's. willian might not have got goals/assists but still was one of our best players for 5 months. for eg - the newcastle game (maybe not the best example but right out of the top of my head). the quick corner, assist to iva, goal to oscar, but willian had a massive massve part to play. and i would have no doubt if that was the case for a lot of our games and goals. turan is a player in the simialr mold. 29mil is a massive price tag. something like luis+5/10 would be very good for me.

this forum is awesome fun. the number of clueless people are just fun to watch. and the best thing is the way they write about things they have no clue.. just have a look at the oscar thread.. apparently, now turan is just a bench player in ATM.

is this guy's opinion valid or is he as clueless as me? maybe we are all clueless!!!

was this what you were talking about? i thought you were talking about turan being a bench warmer... hahahahah http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/14112-8-oscar/?p=1113351 read this.. "as for turan not being better.. thats just LOL talk. turan's close control, holding on to the ball is light years ahead of oscar. turan's passing and dribbling is also way better. oscar has better goal scoring, and pace than turan, thats it!!!" this is what i wrote... hmmm.. interesting.. very clueless.. dude.. again.. stop embarassing yoursef.. i thought you would have been maxed out byy saying"i would never return to this forum if chelsea win today", yet you do.. now leave it.

easily? have you read what people are writing about turan. its like turan is some championship player who we are buying or looking to buy. people were happier being linked to james milner. and then turan being a bench player was just too much for me. anyone who watches/follows ATM even a little bit would know that turan and koke and 2 of their main players. its like saying hazard is a bench player for chelsea. clearly, the guy has no clue and probably has never watched turan play. he has even read the stats wrong by thinking that those 32 games played are for all the season and not just out of the 38 la liga games. i mean people should atleast have the vaguest posiible ideas before forming an opinion.

HE PLAYED EACH OF ATM'S CL GAME. HE STARTED EACH OF ATM'S CL GAME. group A 9/16/14 A Atlético Madrid Olympiacos Piraeus Olympiacos 3:2 RW 90'group A 10/1/14 H Atlético Madrid Juventus FC Juventus 1:0 LW 1 89'group A 10/22/14 H Atlético Madrid Malmö FF Malmö FF 5:0 RW 1 68'group A 11/4/14 A Atlético Madrid Malmö FF Malmö FF 0:2 RW 76'group A 11/26/14 H Atlético Madrid Olympiacos Piraeus Olympiacos 4:0 AM 1 66'group A 12/9/14 A Atlético Madrid Juventus FC Juventus 0:0 RW 90'last 16 1st leg 2/25/15 A Atlético Madrid Bayer 04 Leverkusen Bay. Leverkusen 1:0 RW 64'last 16 2nd leg 3/17/15 H Atlético Madrid Bayer 04 Leverkusen Bay. Leverkusen 4:2 ON PENS RW 120'quarter-finals 1st leg 4/14/15 H Atlético Madrid Real Madrid Real Madrid 0:0 LW 90'quarter-finals 2nd leg 4/22/15 A Atlético Madrid Real Madrid Real Madrid 1:0 RW 32' 76' 76'HE PLAYED IN 32 GAMES OUT OF A POSSIBLE 34 LEAGUE GAMES (was injured for 3 and suspended for 1) Match day Date Home/Away For vs. Result Pos. 1 8/25/14 A Atlético Madrid Rayo Vallecano Rayo Vallecano 0:0 Groin Injury2 8/30/14 H Atlético Madrid (12.) SD Eibar SD Eibar (7.) 2:1 Groin Injury3 9/13/14 A Atlético Madrid (6.) Real Madrid Real Madrid (10.) 1:2 1 30'4 9/20/14 H Atlético Madrid (4.) Celta de Vigo Celta de Vigo (5.) 2:2 RW 90'5 9/24/14 A Atlético Madrid (4.) UD Almería UD Almería (10.) 0:1 RW 8' 84'6 9/27/14 H Atlético Madrid (4.) Sevilla FC Sevilla FC (3.) 4:0 RW 90'7 10/4/14 A Atlético Madrid (3.) Valencia CF Valencia CF (2.) 3:1 LW 69'8 10/19/14 H Atlético Madrid (5.) RCD Espanyol Barcelona Espanyol (8.) 2:0 RW 59'9 10/26/14 A Atlético Madrid (5.) Getafe CF Getafe CF (10.) 0:1 AM 1 90'10 11/1/14 H Atlético Madrid (5.) Córdoba CF Córdoba CF (18.) 4:2 LW 61'11 11/9/14 A Atlético Madrid (3.) Real Sociedad Real Sociedad (19.) 2:1 LW 16' 85'12 11/22/14 H Atlético Madrid (4.) Málaga CF Málaga CF (6.) 3:1 RW 1 87'13 11/30/14 H Atlético Madrid (3.) Deportivo de La Coruña Dep. La Coruña (18.) 2:0 LW 1 90'14 12/6/14 A Atlético Madrid (3.) Elche CF Elche CF (19.) 0:2 LW 1 80'15 12/14/14 H Atlético Madrid (3.) Villarreal CF Villarreal CF (6.) 0:1 LW 28' 76'16 12/21/14 A Atlético Madrid (3.) Athletic Bilbao Athletic Bilbao (10.) 1:4 LW 75' 84'17 1/3/15 H Atlético Madrid (3.) Levante UD Levante UD (15.) 3:1 RW 66'18 1/11/15 A Atlético Madrid (3.) FC Barcelona FC Barcelona (2.) 3:1 RW 90'19 1/18/15 H Atlético Madrid (3.) Granada CF Granada CF (20.) 2:0 RW 1 90'20 1/24/15 H Atlético Madrid (3.) Rayo Vallecano Rayo Vallecano (10.) 3:1 RW 80'21 1/31/15 A Atlético Madrid (3.) SD Eibar SD Eibar (8.) 1:3 22 2/7/15 H Atlético Madrid (3.) Real Madrid Real Madrid (1.) 4:0 RW 50' 90'23 2/15/15 A Atlético Madrid (3.) Celta de Vigo Celta de Vigo (10.) 2:0 yellow card suspension24 2/21/15 H Atlético Madrid (3.) UD Almería UD Almería (16.) 3:0 RW 90'25 3/1/15 A Atlético Madrid (3.) Sevilla FC Sevilla FC (5.) 0:0 RW 37' 59'26 3/8/15 H Atlético Madrid (3.) Valencia CF Valencia CF (4.) 1:1 RW 90'27 3/14/15 A Atlético Madrid (3.) RCD Espanyol Barcelona Espanyol (10.) 0:0 24'28 3/21/15 H Atlético Madrid (4.) Getafe CF Getafe CF (13.) 2:0 RW 90'29 4/4/15 A Atlético Madrid (4.) Córdoba CF Córdoba CF (20.) 0:2 20'30 4/7/15 H Atlético Madrid (3.) Real Sociedad Real Sociedad (10.) 2:0 RW 83' 86'31 4/11/15 A Atlético Madrid (3.) Málaga CF Málaga CF (7.) 2:2 RW 80'32 4/18/15 A Atlético Madrid (3.) Deportivo de La Coruña Dep. La Coruña (16.) 1:2 LW 58'33 4/25/15 H Atlético Madrid (3.) Elche CF Elche CF (14.) 3:0 on the bench34 4/29/15 A Atlético Madrid (3.) Villarreal CF Villarreal CF (6.) 0:1 RW 62'35 5/2/15 H Atlético Madrid (3.) Athletic Bilbao Athletic Bilbao (8.) 0:0 34'36 5/10/15 A Atlético Madrid (3.) Levante UD Levante UD (15.) 2:2 RW 90'37 5/17/15 H Atlético Madrid (3.) FC Barcelona FC Barcelona (1.) 0:1 RW 72'38 5/23/15 A Atlético Madrid (3.) Granada CF Granada CF (17.) 0:0 not in the squad except for the last game of the season and another against elche, he played every game of the season.dude, please, please stop embarassing yourself. go to an ATM forum or any spanish team forum and just say "arda is a bench player for ATM" and see what they do to you. cant even believe it.

my mistake.. meant vidal. definitely THE transfer of the season. 21 mil for vidal!!!! thats right along side our coup of matic. benzema CR kroos bale modric vidal with isco and james on the bench... scary good!!!

hahahahahahhahahaha... clueless.. absolutely clueleess.. just shows how much football you actually watch...

ahahahhahahahahahhaha... he played 32 games out of the total 38 games that ATM played... hahahahah.. learn to read man!!!1 get a brain for heaven's sake!!! http://www.transfermarkt.com/arda-turan/leistungsdaten/spieler/21369/plus/?saison=2014 do you see 2014 / 2015 Spanish Primera División written so big and proper over the 32 game stat??? hahahaha.. he played 45/46 out of the 55 games that ATM played and you think he was their bench player!!!! hahahaha.. just cant stop laughing...

if RM actually get pogba for 30mil euros, its got to be the best transfer of the season. cant see that being beaten. why were not we even linked? just weird!!!

Oh my god!!! oh my fucking god!!! did i read this right? did i fucking read this right? 2014-15 minutes played turan - 3356 oscar - 2794 do people even watch football before posting there stupid opinions. arda turan - one of the best players of ATM is now a bench player. and its not just this guy. by people's opinion about turan, its pretty clear that they have no clue whatsoever about what they are posting.

really? i think that move was very good. azpi is a much much better defender than luis. we needed someone to cover for hazard and also for JT - hence azpi as a LB. iva is a brilliant defender. but he has been given a free role. when we have defended (arsenal and united), iva has been absolutely brilliant. so out of the 3 FBs, we have on our payrole, iva as RB and azpi as a LB gave us the most balance.

the "somebody" would undoubtedly be cuadrado or salah. why would we sell oscar? no, i dont think he is shit all the time. but thats that. i think he is a good player but no where near what people hype him to be. when "player X" is on form, he will always be a joy to watch, even if player X = mikel. but the difference between a world class player or the way people expect oscar and his "potential" to carry out, is that those players are good even when not in form. they make the difference. when oscar is poor, he is poor. fair enough point about DMs.

LOL... now i see you are clutching at straws. its fine and honestly understandable considering your circumstances. so you are saying that jose wont want messi at chelsea if it was possible?? also, these are not just some random rumors. we are being heavily linked with turan. there is a massive difference between the 2.

chelsea is linked with arda turan. so that has nothing to do with jose? we have not signed pogba too. so does that mean jose is dis-interested in pogba too. dude.. stop... atm probably wont reach CL final again in 20 years. which simply goes on to show exactly how good koke,godin, turan etc were. ATM reached the QF last year, which was one stage better than ours and they lost to RM, by a solitary goal. hardly a thing to be ashamed about.

mikel in 2010 was 22, exact age that oscar is right now. also, what are you saying about injuries? where did i say getting injured makes him poor? why are you putting words in my mouth? he got injured. end of it. what else do you want me to do? like i asked previously? should i add the number of minutes to his playtime just cos he would have continued playing shit? so what if mikel is a DM? its an example of a player's growth and potential!!! its an example of a player playing at chelsea when he is 23 compared to a turk who was playing in turkey at 23. thats what my point is. it does not matter that arda was playing for gala. right now, he would make us a better team, he would definitely be the best RW out of willian, cuadrado, salah. the point then becomes, who is better at CAM between oscar and willian. if u do agree about oscar's consistency, then what are we arguing about? in 13-14, oscar played 3774 minutes for chelsea. willian played 3590 minutes for chelsea. why is the extra 180 minutes (2 games) such a massive issue. both had the same preseason too.

hahahahhaha.. yes. you are right. jose is a sucker. barca, the CL winners are suckers. ATM the la liga champions and CL finalists of 13-14 are suckers. i can safely assume that this was the only thing that you saw of turan in the last season. LOL-max opinions. its one reason to not want arda is the cost is actually 29mil for a 28 year old, but to doubt is quality!!! lol..

i can honestly say i have not watched baba. hence i did not make any proclamations there. i can also honestly say that i have watched a loooooottt of turan in the last 2 seasons. infact, the thing i cant understand is how someone who claims that they have watched turan, think that he is not chelsea quality when we have oscar, willian,cuadrado and salah in our squad.

dude... sarcaasm!!!!

messi, CR, pogba - anyone whoses value is atleast 100mil euros. anything less than that.. not chelsea quality.

mikel was playing for chelsea when he was 23.22,21,24,25. where was matic? where was makelele? oh right celta vigo. so whats your point? no, i am telling you to stop making stupid excuses. oscar got injured against arsenal. so what? a lot of players get injured. you want me to add the minutes he would have played but did not cos of the injury? as for the season before, i am a chelsea fan. if you believe everything that jose says. http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/jose-mourinho-world-cup-distraction-contributing-to-oscars-disappointing-chelsea-form-9322134.html, then believe this too. that too at a point where our title was on the line so you are saying the number of games that he played 3 years ago is affecting him right now? the fact that he has played lesser amount of time than willian, hazard, matic, JT, iva, azpi in the last 2 seasons count for nothing? will those games that he played in 12-13 also affect his performances in 15-16 or there affect ended when the 14-15 season ended?

falcao had an injury plus an year. falcao went for a 6mil loan to united and a 4mil loan to us. 33.3% again. but a winter transfer is always hard on the player, add PL's style of play and the complete change of scenario from serie A, juan's 6 months should literally count for nothing. i would rather loan him to juve than sell him for such a loss. no doubt he ll shine through and then we can recapture his value.