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fabianski jenkinson vermalean mertesacker monreal wishere frimpong gnabry rosiscky miyachi bendtner. that is what my friend (an arsenal fan) expects them to start with.

ribery, heyneckes...

hazard might be a better player than mata but mata performed better than hazard last year. so MATA SHOULD BE ON THE LIST IF HAZARD IS ON THE LIST. ballon d'or decides the best player in the world and player of the year in europe - I KNOW THAT.but messi plays for barca which suprisingly is in EUROPE. the only other consideration is what messi has done with argentina and compare it with ribery's contribution for france. but that STILL DOES NOT MAKE HIM THE BEST PLAYER IN THE LAST YEAR. ribery deserves the award.

what the crap!!!! how did hazard make the list and not mata. anyways who cares for the awards.. even though ribery deserves it, messi will pay it off. and even though pep was on a sabatical and not in the shortlist, i am sure uefa will find a way to give the award to him. also how the fuck did wenger make the list?????? round of 16 in CL, 4th in PL, and not even in the semis of fa and COC. shit nominee.

alien supporter??

out - ba(10), mikel(5-10) in - witsel/sven bender - 20-25.

brilliant... simply awesome... whoever did this deserves a pat on the back!!! my team cech lahm kompany silva marcelo yaya pirlo CR messi ribery DD

yup.precisely the point i wanted to make. could not have thought of a better example. also i remember that moment. it was quite funny.

i dint blame the norwich goal solely on DL. i feel JT was more at mistake than both iva and DL to let van wolf win the header. GC came in 2011-12 while DL came in 2010-11, so what point u were trying to make, i really dint get it. anyways we are playing under a new manager who is playing in a totally different system than what we played under AVB, RDM and RAFA. so u cant mistake me for throwing stats here just for this season. and its not just about the stats but the general play we have set up. i mean norwich and cardiff were more threatening than fulham and schalke. maybe its just co-incidence but we are playing better with JT-GC than with JT-DL.

if u watch the replays then its very clear where nastastic was looking at. THE BALL. he (like any good defender in the world should) had his eyes on the ball. also it does not matter what hart was screaming. i totally agree with what owen said in MOTD about hart's shouting not having any effect. but as u said, all that matters is we won.

u really dont understand anything do you. let me break it down for you. 1. jose knows just like i know and just like every1 on here knows, luiz is a better defender than cahill. 2. jose gave luiz his chance to prove that luiz can adjust to jose's style but luiz blew it with his mistakes against everton, norwich and cardiff. 3. now jose did the right thing by dropping DL out of the team and starting GC over him for one of the most important match we will play this season. this does not BLOW a hole in my argument but just confirms what i have been saying all this time. (let me say that again in a compressed one line otherwise i have no idea what u might interpret it to: luiz's mistakes cost us so we should play GC-JT). get it!!!??? or do u need to be spoon-fed further?

very true. we should not look at the stats, or the own personal mistakes of luiz or actually watch the game and see for ourselves how we have been playing with a particular player on and off the field but we should just take your word for it that luiz is better. thats right!!! forget about what all the pundits are saying and forget about what most of the people on the forum (despite admitting that luiz is better than cahill) want cahill to partner JT and also we should forget that JOSE-FUCKING-MOURINHO the coach who has won 2 CLs and domestic league in portugal, italy, spain and england, preferred GC over DL in probably the match that was between the no.1 and no.2 team in PL. but we should all listen to YOU NAME IT. cos he knows it all. what i wanted to get across may have been said in a very pedestrian way, but on the other hand, u dont have an argument except for exclaiming, "REALLY!!!", "HE IS WORTH 35MIL!!!" "I CANT BELIEVE U ACTUALLY THINK SO"... comeback when u actually HAVE an argument to give.

to give credit where its due, aguero's run was marvellous. he was offside, but comes onside and then dashes for the ball. and then he has acute angle shot at cech's near post. but yes,u r right, it was all cahill's mistake!!!!!!!!!!!!

they think lucas is god's best creation, so who cares what they think. but we had seen sturridge play and knew what we could do. i still remember that the forum was divided into 2 major factions at the start of the last season. 1. who thought sturridge would be our messiah and save our asses (me included). 2. the ones who put all their trust in torres and thought sturridge was nothing more than another over-rated, egoistic player. but honestly speaking, i am not at all suprised by how well he is doing at pool.

let me bring it down to the level that an idiot would understand. everton match - luiz's hopeless defensive error changes the whole complexion of a match that we were so fully dominating and controlling. after that everton parked the bus and we found it very-very difficult to break them cardiff match - luiz's childish display puts us in trouble once again. hence we were chasing the match again. with GC-JT, the opposition dont get the charity that luiz gives. also with cahill-JT we have so far conceded 2 goals in 6 matches (hull, villa, united, fulham, schalke and city) and both the goals have been phenomenol strikes by the striker. the benteke shot was absolutely brilliant and aguero's too even though cech should have stopped the latter one. this makes us more difficult to play against cos teams need a moment of magic to score rather than getting goals in free-fund.

u dont accept that luiz is error-prone. u dont accept that cahill-JT has been our best and most comfortable pair this season and now u have ridiculed stats which show that we have played best with cahill-JT. i am out of ways to get my point across. the only other way is to take a cheap shot and say that jose played the cahill-JT combo over luiz-JT against a team that he even in his post-match interview said "had the strongest squad in PL". now, that makes me believe in what i write and what i am thinking.

again lucio winning the WC had nothing to do with the likes of ronaldo, rivaldo, ronaldinho in the team and the fact that brazil were levels over other teams in attack. if u want a team which actually won international tournament thru defenders then name italy and cannavaro. solid CBs.

if u actually are considering performances then cahill trumps luiz in that. we have looked the most comfortable with JT and GC at the back. irrespective of GC's limitations and constraints compared to luiz, we have looked the strongest and the least vunerable with the JT-GC combo. again, this is not a discussion about who is better between GC and DL (cos i never once have said anything to compare those 2 indivildually). it is about who suits us the most and makes us a better team. for me, the answer has to be GC. also talking about complementing and things, lets take a look at the 3 combos at the back GC-JT : P6 W5 D1 GC-DL: P3 W0 D2 L1 (i have considered munich as a draw since the score was 2-2) DL-JT: P5 W3 D1 L1 goes on to show which has been our best defensive pair.

so now spain and brazil are winning international tournaments because of luiz and pique??? it has nothing to do with the likes of xavi, iniesta, xabi, mata, silva, fiberglass ALL playing in the same team!!! one has to take into consideration the type of plays those teams involve compared to ours. jose is not trying to do a BARCA here. he wants 10 men behind the ball when we are not in possession which is totally different to what barca and spain have done with the likes of pique to win those tournaments. also please take into consideration the midfield of those team. we have a 35 year old CAM playing as a DM whereas those teams have the best CMs and DMs available in the world right now. hence the trophies.

barbara says luiz is better than cahill. i dint say otherwise. luiz is a WC footballer and a good defender who is prone to the weirdest of focus problems. but tell me (in all seriousness) how has luiz proved his signing of 24mil while cahill has not for 7 mil???!!!

its all relative. would luiz be worth 35mil to barca in the system they play. u can bet everything u have on it. he would be immense for them. a perfect fit to play alongside puyol/pique as the last man. for us has he been anything close to 24mil. as alex said "NOT A CHANCE IN HELL".

not this much. he was good yesterday. he surpassed my expectations by a mile. the comments on here make it sound like he was abysmal. i understand henrique saying it cos he is well.... but even others are critisizing his performance. very unfair, i feel.

does every player get the stick on here who plays in the DM role. mikel, then rambo, then luiz and now frank. we ll be satisfied only with DDR or ALONSO. thank god i was not here when ballack was here, i would have literally killed people.

they showed it on the post-match show yesterday and i think also in the motd today.

the sympathy KDB getting here is weird cos i remember people expecting squad players like KALOU to put in messi-like performances in the only match he got after a month on the bench or the reserves. where was this concern about KALOU or moses' match-fitness when people so conviniently ridiculed and abused them!!! anyways have nothing against KDB, hope he shows his talent and has a good game.