didierforever

nope. i would have seen IF he repeated it again.

u r blaming JT for leaving iva to cover 2 men, when that is wher LUIZ played his horrendous part of the mistake. a mis-control is a mistake but very different from what luiz did. he literally went out of position and then stood their ball-watching. also it was never JT's man. naismith just ran into the space that luiz left between JT and iVA. iva tried to compensate for that by moving towars JT but it was a good crooss to JELAVIC on the far post and iva was caight in no man's land. here the most avoidable part of the whole chain reaction is LUIZ out of position and then ball-watching. i dont know why JOSE dint take DL or IVA out today., just like i dont know why he insists on playing iva ahead of azpi. from what i saw, DL was the worst player on the pitch for us. also i would have subbed DL after the 1st half and brought on GC but probably jose wanted to save his subs for what he actaully did, take out a defender, get a goal and then put a defender in again. its all just ifs. i dont know why barca sold villa for 2 mil, or brought sanchez for 40mil, or bought ibra for 65 mil and then sell him for peanuts or for that matter why we bought torres for 50 mil. barca's transfer policy seems to be hopeless to me, probably that is the reason. your love for luiz is blinding u.

do they make stupid mistakes and give away amateurish goals, no they dont. thats all my point ever was. luiz is a liabitlty as much as he is an asset. also i dint say we should buy them only cos they were CL finalist. if u actually saw BVB play, u would know how goood they really are.

the only reason dante is playing is cos, BADSTUBER is gone for long.. (probably his carrer is gone.) and they dont have a bettr replacement. dante is no whre near WC. i mean WC class is vidic in his prime or JT in his prime. i dint think dante is anywhere near that level.

do we need to? as i said, luiz is not ir-replacable, infact far far far from it. plus 35 mil which has to be at least double of his worth offer comes then why not??? also BVB were finalists cos of a reason. their defence is better than ours, their striker is miles ahead of any thing we can throw, plus their pivot bender/gundogan/sahin is another level compared to ours (rambo/lamps/mikel). the only area we beat them in a player on player comparision is AMs and GK. anyways getting too deviated from the topic. the point is.was could we have done without luiz but plus 35 mil this window... DEFINITELY.

wow... luiz has been outperforming the CL finalists darkhorses. also i would say one of the best CB pair in the world, right now!!! (cant think of any other better)

well, u wanted DD to be sold (even joking about such a thing is considered BLASPHEMY in my mind), so i introduced a bit of an exagerration .

whats the point of a great performance after giving away a goal? the everton goal was a poor mistake, an amateurish mistake of trying to steal the ball with mikel and schurlle around the everton player and then leaving his position. the everton goal was his mistake. the norwich goal is a bad example of what i want to say. luiz giftts goal to the opposition. the norich goal was an acceptable mistake where he probably dint expect the ball from van wolsddjsdjsh (whatever). and so he was a second slower to react. but the everton goal and today's goal are literal gifts to the opposition which adds even more pressure to an already extremely pressurised MID. also how does seling luiz to barca for 35 frigging million become such a TABOO that u r reacting this way. for 35 mil we can probably get hummels+subotic.also u r reacting as if luiz is irreplacable or something, i dont think thats the case in any way.

WTF!!! any bans, i mean will he be missing from the touchline for any match??

perhaps but i dont remember him going around slapping people every second or third match he played in.

why did he get sent off???

^^^^^ HAHAHHAHAHAHHA... and people say, the media makes up stuff!!! HILARIOUS... "one of our best players today"- LOLMAX...

oh!!! we must have seen different everton vs chelsea and norwich vs chelsea games. also on a very very different side note, u actually believe luiz is worth 35mil? hazard was 32 mil, mata was 23, ozil is 42 and luiz is 35!!!!!!????

one bad day cant be compared to several bad days. read my post and reply to zolayes after the first one. i bring up the same exact iva incident, saying the same exact thing.

it was iva's mistake who let agbanlahor run from him too easily. cahill tries to stop the cross and slides in but is not able to stop the cut-back/cross. hardly a "mistake". now i dont even have to dig deep and still i have everton, and today's game for luiz. which were amateurish mistakes which had nothing to do with football/pace/skill but just good old concentration.

tell me cahill or iva's "mistakes" this season. not defensive frivolities but actual "mistakes"

now THAT was just weird!!!

ok then, each and every of our defender + cech should make a stupid mistake every other match, as its just one goal and well who cares! the ams and strikers will clear the mess, right?

??? what? he lost 4-1 to bvb.

tough game. we have to play a good game here. cant simply leave it to the class in our depth like the previous games. cech azpi cahill JT bert ramires mikel hazard oscar schurlle etoo etoo has shown glimpses of his link-up play and now he has got a goal. i dont want to break that. i think jose would go with mikel-rambo pivot as we would need mikel's defensive prowess more than lamps long balls from the pivot. plus lamps played 2 games for england + cardiff + norwich+ i have no doubt that he ll start city, so i just he would get some rest here. azpi and cahill should start after iva and luiz's poor displays.

one mistake can be forgiven. but not the same ones again and again. i can deal with one bad day (ivanovic- swansea) and forget it, saying he is just human and every1 has one of these days. but continously making mistakes is not why luiz is played. to be honest, against lower teams (with all due respect) and specially against teams which dont have a very threating striker i would start cahill over luiz almost every time. luiz's class comes thru in big matches and against good strikers (what i mean is, i would play cahill against the likes of cardiff but not villa cos of benteke), but in these matches, he is a liabilty and one that may cost us dearly in the future.

well all i know is that, he has cost us atleast 3 points this season already(everton game), could have cost us another 2/3 today with his "defending" if u can call that. as for -1, i was really being generous.

another mistake today. did we really let barca's 35mil offer go down the drain?

poor performance, great result. twice in a row now. shows the depth and class we have in our squad. cech - some really really good saves. but a poor goal to concede. but cant blame him for it. 8/10 iva- pathetic performance. awful crosses. azpi should get alook in to the team after this. 4/10 luiz - idiotic, stupid, horrendous. dont know what he was doin for the goal. should have been his ball to deal with or at the least, checked the run of the striker to give cech the time. then the yellow card and loosing the ball in the opposition half. simply pathetic. (-)1/10 terry - my motm. dealt with everything solidly. he is showing he is still the boss. 9/10 bertrand - i felt he was pretty decent in his time. a couple of great runs down the flank, was solid in defence and a better performance than any that cole has given in any of the PL matches this season. 7/10 ramires - full throttle commitment. hard-tackles but simply not good enough to break a good defence. his steal of the ball which led to the goal characterises his performance. hord-working but he needs a CM who can put those incisive balls and provide creatiivity. 7/10 lamps - decent. not great. towards the 60th minute mark he got over-run a couple of times. not the CM we need but he will have to make do. 7/10 mata - was not much of a threat. his set-pieces were his best attribute which says a lot. 6/10 hazard- got the first and the last goal but i felt he was pretty average i the first half. only when the game opened up and he got space to run did he become a threat. he has to become more direct like schurlle in taking on the LB rather than continously drifting inward. 7.5/10 willian - was invisible in the first half and was most influential in doubling back to provide cover fot iva. 7/10 etoo - second MOTM for me. link up play was wonderful and scored a match-winning/match-changing goal. 8.5/10 subs - torres - influential. tried to make a difference and is running around with a purpose which is more than what u can say about his last 2 and a half years. 7.5/10 oscar - beauty of a goal to put the match to rest. he is showing exactly why jose (not the majority of us or even me) is putting so much trust into him. 8/10 azpi - decent. dint have much to deal with as we ran them ragged with counters in towards the end. but he definitely deserves a real shot at thr RB position. 7/10 but in the end it all comes down to the SPECIAL ONE. 2 MATCHES, 6 POINTS and 2 match changing decisions to lead us to win.

too much adrenaline dude...