Tomo

I think in terms of winning the league Madrid have got them, Barca will probally do the double over them but Madrid just seem a lot more motivated in the "lesser games" than Barcelona this season.

£33m is a bargain in this current climate. Why we are hesitating beats me.

Am i the only one who thinks Madrid have got Barca this season? They are 5 points clear and yeh i know Barca won at The Bernabeu but they haven't been as good as last year and Madrid seem so hungry to win this and we all know Mourinho has form for stopping teams that look unstoppable (IE Arsenals "invincibles").

If Torres does not improve fast we need to be looking at getting him off the wage bill, sorry but we cant wait forever.

Exactly, in 2 or so years time im hoping to see a vibrant young side out on the pitch with massive re-sale value.

If we miss out on him because we wont pay 40m euros il flip, how much is that in English pounds? £32m thats a bargain for a player of that calibre in this current market.

Well tell me the difference? apart from one gets praised and the other gets slated for doing the same thing.

Does it matter if he scores goals tho? As ive said before Hernandez looks like a pub player all season bar 10-20 moments a season when a ball hits him on the face and trickles in.

If Kalou does get the winner in the CL final we won't even talk about being Champions of Europe,all the focus will be on Kalou getting "another lucky tap in"

Add this to the fact how many other top clubs have produced academy players in the last decade. Cleverly and Welbeck have been the first at United since Fletcher. Tottenham haven't produced any one since King and Liverpool have only really produced Kelly since Gerrard. City had Richards, Hart, Anouha, Ireland, Johnson, Sturridge and Flood playing from their academy now the Sheiks took over all off them bar Hart and Richards got told they had no future's and even Hart was replaced by Given for a while, have they produced any one since the Sheiks took over? When was the last time someone came thorugh the academy at Madrid or AC Millan? Its only really Barca and Bayern out of the top European clubs that produce academy players on a regular basis. We aren't the only one's responsible.

Agree with ja1 our academy quality was in a real state when Roman took over the club, our best academy player was Leon Knight ffs now where is he? he must be about 27 right now which should be his peak. We should have produced more players to the first team yes, Cork at the very least should have been a squad player but the quality is getting better every season. Roman from everything i hear backs AVB to the hilt which means in time AVB might take more chances with the young players IE Piazon, Kane, Chalaboh in the near future. Ive spoke to a few people on twitter about Chelsea young players and all have said our U14-16''s are some of the best this country has seen, whether that potential will develop into the first team material is for another debate but atleast it shows Roman is investing heavily into the academy, Esk could you concour if our U14-16's are actually that good? Rome wasn't built in a day, give it time and i honestly believe we will have serious talent coming out of our academy every year.

Here he will be wanted and relied on. Barca and Real Madrid he will be just another superstar. If he is deparate to play for Real at some point there's not much we could do to stop that but if he knows what good for him he will join us for the next few years, shine into a superstar then if Real want him he gets his dream move and we make a fat profit. win win.

If im honest he is a liabilty at left back, what AVB needs to try and do is similar to what A'rry has done with Bale, ultilise his immense attacking skills and turn him into a left midfielder, if we can do that we will have one hell of a player on our hands.

AVB really does look about 23 there with the new haircut

Same could have been said for Torres and even Luiz to an extent.

Also them swapping over constantly will confuse the hell out of the opposition, that's without even mentioning Ramires runs aswell.

His return is good to the extent we need an extra man in midfield. We will never see the old Bison again however.

This was a pretty hard transfer to get exicted about in the first place but the more this saga goes on the more underwhelming it becomes.

I will tatoo Abramovic and Villas Boas name on me if they pull this off

He was never going to replace JT, he will be nothing more than a squad player, we need to sign a geniune world class player like Hummels to slowly replace JT. I only think Roger Johnson will be a better option than Cahill, less wages, similar transfer fee, actually loves Chelsea and IMHO is a better player anyway.

If we a pay him more than 50k a week i give up. We pay a squad player 80-100k a week any world class player will want atleast double that. If Cahill is making wage demands tell him where to go and get Samba or Roger Johnson, simple.

I mean like Arsenal and United's youngsters seem to get game time while our's Sturridge aside don't. Do Arsenal and United put a gametime clause and financial incentive into it that we dont? if thats the case than id refer to what you said about our shit board.

No such thing as a first Xl any more, as we have found out this season and especially last season it's a squad game these days, we could have the best ever starting lineup but if we had no depth we still would win nothing. Im hoping for a Hazard, Mata and Danny front 3 in the big games if he comes, all flexible and can move around and cofuse the hell out of opposition and add that to Ramires running in behind.

Ill be so happy if we can pull this one off, then cap it off by getting Goetze in aswell No? Malouda and Kalou it is.

Fair point, i hope whoever he goes on loan too plays him. Its annoying seeing our loans fail Sturridge aside (Kakuta, PVA) but other top teams loan's working a treat (Walker, Cleverly, Welbeck, Naughton, Frimpong, Caulker, Wilshere).