Tomo

Another to add to the list of left Arsenal and won a trophy.

Didn't Aguero have a similar time out of the CL when City got him and we could have done the same? Instead we choose Torres who played in the CL recently.

I think the rumours Cech might have to retire early might be true. If the club thought Cech could do a VDS, this signing would have been pointless, unless it's a profit making exercise Levy wouldn't even attempt to pull off.

Infact i think it works as often if not more often than it doesn't, if not more. For one Dalglish there's a group like Guus, Jupp and Harry. By October i don't even think this will feel like a second coming.

Well Barca will be in for a shock if they even try it because we are not Arsenal.

Quick question to the fan's who hated Rafa because of his previous comments. As Rooney stuck V sign's to our supporters during the Old Trafford title decider in 2011. will he be getting the same level of abuse if he signs for us?

Yeah, hench the not as extreme bit I think the start he makes is crucial. A bad start and it's a slipery slope. Say he finds himself 5th/6th in October from a slow start and exit's the league cup to lower league opposition, loses the next two end's up in 8th. If you compare this United squad to Liverpool's 10/11 squad (United's is street's ahead), it wouldn't be dissimilar to Woy's struggle in terms of how much he is underachieving and how much the fans would get on his back. I doubt he will embarrisse himself as much as RH tho, when he called that 1-0 win at Bolton a famous victory :lol:

Hell win the double every season

People who think we would have done better with RDM are letting their hearts rule their heads. Now i wanted RDM to work as much as anyone (check my post's last summer) but as time went on it was clear that it just wasn't going to work. You say, well we sacked him too soon? probably yes we did, but it's better to sack someone too soon then too late. If we sacked Scolari a couple of months earlier, Hiddink could have recovered a title win out of that season, but instead we waited until it got beyond a joke under Big Phil and then on Hiddink (despite only dropping 5 points, and both those games we hit the woodwork in injury time) could only get us 3rd and even if we won all the games, still would not have won the league. The Juventus and Athletico game's were frightening, that was the worst beggining and end performance's from a Chelsea team since we went to Old Trafford under Big Phil and lost 3-0. Even the dark days of AVB and Carlo's second season we never performed so badly from the first minute to the last like we did in Turin especially. Under Rafa we have performed on the same level but under RDM would we have even carried on performing on the same level? our worrying erratic displays aswell as what happened at WBA (completely nosedived) suggest's the chances are we would not have. The City game especially would have been really really messy. Yes you could say results are identical but performances are not. Even in the games we fucked up in that he gets stick for (Southampton, Swansea, Reading, QPR) we dominated the games and didn't take our chances. We weren't dominating games under RDM, even at the start of the season our only truly impressive displays was Spurs and too a lesser extent Norwich (Arsenal game was won from two set pieces). The bad side of Rafa has been his substitution's which at time's have had me banging me head against a brick wall. He improved us defensively, we were all over the place in RDM's late tenure and looked like nothing was changing, Rafa has come in and made us into a unit at the back, ok not to the extent Jose did but better than before. Hazard's defensive work has also improved ten fold and Lampard imo has looked better under Rafa than he has any time since the Double winning season. Rafa has also treated every player by merit and has managed to do it without causing a dressing room riot (something we have been wanting for years, no?). I love Robbie always will, but sometimes in football you have to let your head rule your heart. Im not convinced he is a genius manager (like Ruperb or the Scousers) and if it's a choice of him or Jose then there is only one winner but i do think he has made some decent contribution's that Jose can built on and above it i think he is a very decent man who has handled this job with dignity, professionalism and class in the face of the abuse he has got, a lesser man would have walked away. Thankyou Rafa and good luck at you're next job, i will watch with interest.

This myth about giving him a Premier League loan to prove himself is as boring as it is a pile of crap. He has won the best keeper in La Liga, proved himself time and time again and were thinking of sending him somewhere like Southampton and Fulham when some of the top clubs in the world are interested in him, we might aswell send Hazard there too while were at it The PL is not some super league that you have to prove yourself in to be considered worthy, really the "players need time to adapt to the PL" is actually an urban myth, players like De Gea and Henry are the exception not the rule. Remember when we signed PL proven Torres over Aguero

I hope United stick by Moyes even when he struggles, "look were sticking by a struggling manager, look how well our club is run". Am i the only one who can see another (although less extreme) version of Woy with Liverpool here?

Could you imagine Jose doing something completely unexpected like unleashing Kakuta into a star? You can never say never with Jose.

Some people are so uneducated when it comes to Mourinho it's actually frightening. Its bad enough getting this from opposition fans. Mourinho knows how to win games, to win trophies, that should never be mixed up with playing boring football. In the 04/05 season especially we played fantastic, attacking football just because we could defend, don't mix that with playing boring football. Mou likes to relax a bit when were 3-0 up in matches instead of going for 7 or 8 (ala Carlo) but again that should not be mistaken for boring football, as it preserves energy for the next games. I rather win two matches 2-0 then one 8-0 and draw the other 0-0 because were shattered. People who think Mourinho would reverted to Essien and Lampard in the pivot are again outrageously paranoid. There is one thing saying he's defensive minded, it's a complete other thing saying he will surrender the midfield battle, absolutely no way and for my money that will be the main area he tries to sort out this summer. Mourinho is not a Liverpool fan, he won't surrender title's because he is in love with 2005. Mourinho will get the balance right in this squad (something we have been crying out for all season, no?)

Both of them should be scrapped anyway. After a gruelling season i don't know what was in the minds of the board to add another 2 games to our schedule. With the weirdness of this season, i do genuinely think we will end up in a play off against Arsenal. Its just so obvious if you think about it.

I wouldn't be too sure, since the PL have allowed 3 teams straight in the GS the whole complexion of the CL play offs have changed, their is every chance we could get a team in the calibre of the Udinese team Arsenal faced in 2011, which won't be easy at all. If Chelsea and Arsenal end up in the play off for who gets automatic CL qualification, i fail to see how it cannot be played on the Charity Shield weekend next season as neither team will be in that one.

If he stays Jose will do the Kaka treatment with him, if he wants regular football he has no choice but to look elsewhere.

The thing with Cahill is he is always the most over rated or most under rated in the squad depending on his last game, didierforever's comment proof of that. Plays bad he is useless, plays good he is the new JT. He was fantastic tonight and that goal line clearance was a good as a goal, valuable squad player.

First half he was terrible but second he really pulled it out of the bag and his goal was really well taken. Now he can leave us on a high.

Thankfuck for that. I was getting seriously worried for one moment that Rafa was going to risk playing him. We can't take chances on hamstring injuries.

@, Do your really think Mourinho is going to throw away medals because he has a touch of nostalgia? You saw what he did to Carvalho at Real Madrid. Just because Jose teams don't get beat up by hoof ball sides, doesn't mean their boring. The first thing he will do is try and get the balance in the team, which has been lacking this season. He will try and sign some defensive minded players this summer properly, not because he is a ultra defensive coach it's because we already have two world class am's and another well on the way to becoming one. He might try and sign a winger to balance the three in behind the forward aswell.

Mourinho vs Everton P8 W5 D3 L0 F15 A6 1 of those draws came in a league match at Goodison where we had a Drogba goal at the end wrongly ruled out for offside. Another one came in the FA Cup at Goodison where we went on to win the replay anyway. Another one was a dead end off of season rubber at Stamford Bridge.

True, Martin Samuel made a article the other day completely slating Pellegrini while praising Moyes to the hilt, made me cringe. He also said how Curbishley and Big Sam is proof that English managers don't get fair cracks at top jobs, but conviently missed out not only the pigs ear Sam made at NUFC but also the fact Roy got a big chance at Liverpool and nearly relegated them.

Mk Dons did better against QPR than us, your point?

Moyes to Manchester United is done. Pellegrini looks set to go to City while Mourinho set to come to us. We get a serial winner while the two clubs we are looking to gazump appoint two managers who lets be honest are small fry compared to the special one. We get Waitrose while those two get Somerfield and Asda. If this comes off than we will be in a hugely great position to win the league next season and for years to come after that, the only thing that can threaten that is Ronaldo returning to United. What a fantastic summer this is looking like being even already.

We should try and sign those twins. Would be better than Marin Out of our team Boga and RLC look the one's with the best chance of breaking through. Feruz needs to sort himself out asap.