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It would if Torres and Ba go. Apparently Eto'o has been passing his experience onto Hazard (see his thread couple off days back) if he can do the same for Lukaku then that can only be good. Costa, Lukaku and Eto'o would offer us a real balance up front, one in his prime, one young and upcoming and one who's been around the block and won everything.

No he doesn't, Torres has many lazy games and when he does he makes Berbatov look like a workhorse.

I dont think he had a particularly good game, but even that is better than what Torres gives 90 percent off the time. You are right he does sometimes hold on for it longer than he should but even that beats turning it over and setting the oppo up for a counter attack. Before the Liverpool match remaisoftheday posted turnover count which was Eto'o 8 Torres 19, if iwas a betting man i wouldn't say that gap has closed much. Yes Torres has scored some vital goals but so did Kalou, Sheva, Kezman and incidently so has Eto'o.

Cant? he because i can remember 3 times in the second half were he escaped from a tight space with the ball still planted firmly at this feet. If it was Torres he would have conceded a turnoveror tripped over the ball but let me guess he scored 2 league games in a row so he deserves another 2 years?

80 percent of the time i go to Stamford Bridge we win 1-0, so get yourself down the bookies now. That tally would be higher if it weren't for Tim Cahill in 2007 the bastard.

Why is Marin even on any ones list? If quality players with not great work rate like Mata and KDB struggled to break into Joses side a crap player with no workrate has got absolutely no chance.

There was absolutely nothing in the 5th or 10th minute, infact i didn't hear about Mata once. There was defiently no chants showing frustration at Jose.

In the second half he went to take a corner the MHL chanted his name and responded with a clap and thumbs up back at us.

This is the first time i have gone to Stamford Bridge this season (im going again wednesday vs Wet Sham) and looking to the dugout and seeing Mourinho once again just fills me with such natural confidence and assurance. Even if we dont win the league this season it wont be long before we do that is for sure.

Just got back from The Bridge and i have to say that was a 1-0 thrashing, Stoke are so poor its unbelievable they had one half chance when Ireland hit the side net, their next best thing after that was a 25 yard shot from N Zonzi which Schwarzer easily caught. Scoreline is deceptive we battered them. Props to Ash today, he was getting forward even today especially in the second half, Oscar, Hazard were brilliant and Matic made it look so easy, what impressed me is he was always were he was needed to be if that makes sense, he read the game superbly and when we were going forward he gave the attackers an option, his passing was spot on to. City in the next round, get em back here and well do them.

This is in a nutshell why experience is pivotal at the highest level.

I dont know why its widely assumed Mata and Jose dont get on, Jose has only ever praised his attitude and individual quality while Mata has took to his blog to thank Jose. It was the same at Inter, he let Ibra and Vieira go (and the latter got his game time significantly reduced under Mou) yet both wax lyricals every time they talk about Jose. Off the pitch im sure they got on fine but its like he said on football focus once the players accept the club comes first, then everything is good.

I wasn't refering to you , you just mentioned the Casillas saga and i was just pointing out that i find it hilarious people are backtracking now Ancelotti has also chosen Lopez.

That Casillas material is pretty useless now considering Ancelotti has done exactly the same thing. It is hilarious watching journos and Jose haters back track on the Casillas-Lopez saga.

The awkward moment when Moyes shows Mata videos of Fellaini at Everton and telling the Spaniard that's his role for United.

So United wouldn't have been prepared to pay 110k for him a week? Is this the part were you tell me 250k pw Rooney loves United? he is having a further payrise to confirm his love isn't he?

Not really Mata can play great while United as a team play shit, just like with us in 11 12 in the league. That would be perfect from our point off view.

If united play with 2 forwards along with Mata and Januzaj they would be vaunrable every single time their not on the ball. Moyes has a task on his hands finding the right formation to accomodate Mata and get the best out off him.

Some one posted in the Jose thread there will be the 10th minute applause for Mata and a pre match protest. Im going to this and the former im happy to do to thank him for his services but if the latter happens i will postively cringe.

His contributions will never be forgotten, he came into a stagnant past it squad, stood out like a star and at one point was the only aspect off our club we could feel good about in a dark period. There is nothing i would have loved more than Mata to have fitted this system but sadly it won't happen, sad he is leaving but that sadness is overpowered by my exictement on the direction this club is going. Players come and go, CFChowever is eternal, onwards and upwards.

Football talk doesn't end on here

He won't flop, hes to good for that. But he won't make Fellani and Cleverly a good pivot, he won't make Ferdinand, Vidic and Evra 26 again, he wont stop Giggs being a 40 year old who offers next to nothing these days and most crucially he won't turn Moyes from a plucky underdog to a serial winner. Matas a top player but he can only do so much in an average side, he played like a man possessed in his 1st season and we finished 6th.

If they play that against teams like say Everton who get their fullbacks forward they would get tonked off the ball. Rafeal and a past its prime Evra isolated vs Piennar/Baines or Oviedo and Mirralas/ Coleman would be comedy gold. Theres a reason Valencia plays a lot, especially in big games.

It wasn't really that aspect i meant when the news initially broke about Willian i was questioning whether we needed him to. The bit that baffles me is some are declaring him a flop before he even gets here.

After Willian and to an extent Schurrle you would think the penny would have dropped by now. Dont pre judge players before they even fucking got here.