Tomo

Or complete inactivity if we win.

There's crituising then there's stuff that's said on here. Look at the Drogba thread, he gets criticised but the people that do still maintain the respect for the man, if likewise happened in the Mou thread me and the rest of his "defenders" as you so sweetly put it wouldn't feel the need to say anything.

and do you stop disrespecting one off the most decorated manager's in the game when he is on the verge of winning one of the biggest trophys in football?

Morons aren't they? Who in their right mind would trust one of the most decorated manager's in football and the most successfull in ythe history of the club they support. Absolute naive muppets.

So it's Mourinhos fault Remy is injured now I know it's the fashion here to slate the best manager in our clubs history for any little thing but really?

If you say Salah didn't get a chance at Chelsea then the same has to apply to Quaresma surely? He got 5 games for us and irrc one of them vs Portsmouth he actually made a positive impact and helped win the game, also I may be wrong but didn't he assist Lamps last gasp winner vs Wigan?

So you think Jose actively said to the team stop playing this football?A variety of reasons has been the case for us not playing as good since January but despite that we have gone from 3 point's clear to 7 with a game in hand, if we had a purist in charge he would have changed nothing, gone on about style and how it won't change while our results suffered big time because of it (coincidentally that is happening up in the blue half of Manchester) The results we have been getting despite playing average not only shows just how lucky we are to have Mou but how the strong mentality of the squad is growing. That is also why we are top going into the final straight, all the top 4 have had brilliant spells and average spells, were we differ from the rest is we have been remembering to pick up the results while playing bollox. When the moment comes again and the best player's are on form we will play the great football we did in the first 6 month's, but when we need to roll our sleeves up and do it the not so pretty way, we will do that too. That kind of adaptability will put us in great stead for many years to come.

That's the thing with Rafa, he's a really good tactician and managed to outsmart Mou, Capello, Mancini, Fergie amongst others in one off cup games, his problem has always been when it's not working, he doesn't react quick enough and the team suffer, that's why he has barely had a sniff at a league title for over a decade.

But but but getting attackers to defend is anti football. That match sums up Rafa, can be absolutely brilliant in one of cup games but is average in league regulations.

In England you're technically classed as a young person until your 26th birthday, im guessing the PFA go by similar guidelines.

Almost every time that has been said on match threads on this site (especially since Joses return) we have gone on to get a result.

That will probably be the case with a lot of supporter's, they don't watch Chelsea like we do so they can't see thing's that we can see clearly. Oscar is highly rated amongst other supporter's at least in my experience and United fans probably view him as a threat. Another example was in 10/11, opposition supporter's pull the "you finished 2nd things can't have been that bad" line, whereas us Chelsea fans who watches every game knew otherwise.

But atleast we would play a neat triangle in the 50th minute.

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Go on a Liverpool forum and you will see many allowances made for Dalglishs disaster of a full time spell in 11/12.Go on a United forum and very few will blame Fergie for choosing Moyes and not leaving the squad in the best nick. Shearer relegated Newcastle and is still a hero. Zola, Drogba, Terry could return to manage us and take us down and the fans would "go easy" on them. No one is saying agree with every little thing he does, the point is he has such a strong connection with the fans and the club, has and is still giving this club fantastic memories, yet if you look at his thread some people won't even give the greatest manager in the club's history the remotest bit of respect when we are on the verge of winning the title thanks to him. If people criticised him but maintained the respect (like people do in the Drogba thread for example) these blind loyalists your referring too wouldn't be that defensive, but for as long as he is getting told to go fuck himself on the day off a cup final, then there will continue to be people on the other end of the scale.

I can't prove it but I reckon if Jose didn't have the fans meltdown to put into account Mata might have been the one in KDBs situation while the Belgium got the minutes Juan did.

Because my initial point was Mata and Cesc in same team wouldn't work.

Then we do that, were would Mata go? on the right and have only 1/3 off our AM with any real pace.

It's not about him being not good enough but he wouldn't fit in to this season's team. Mata and Cesc in the same midfield would be a disaster off the ball. Still love him, and he gave us some great moments and dare I say was one of the rays of hope in the last days of AVB, but on the pitch we have both moved on.

If I could 'like' this post 25,000 times I would.Wenger, Pellegrini and Rodgers have really really done a job on some with their "right way to play" bullshit, I even said last season Liverpool played 'anti football' now im going to get asked well why they attacked and played neat triangles? well the reason is defending is actually a part of the game too, and Brendan completely didn't bother with that side of the game. Would Skrtel, Agger and Johnson being rewarded for their comical defending all season with a PL medal be good for football? Not to mention Mingolet holding one, Barthez in the elite group of title winning number 1s is bad enough, but Mingolet joining would have really took the piss. Do I particularly enjoy watching the way we played at PSG? no, but contrary to popular belief we ain't the first or the last team to do it, bar Pep name a top level manager and I could find at the very least one example when they adopted park the bus tactics, for example LVG in the world cup semi, philosophy indeed.

Remy started, either way Stoke were no threat bar that fluke, take that out it was almost as convincing as WBA home.

Keepers and defenders cock up clearances all the time, when Green did that we still had a lot to do before scoring.

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Yesterday was lucky but Stoke? please, that was a totally convincing performance which was only made a contest by the flukiest goal of the season.

No, I was just saying why the people tend to jump on "jose bashers" is because of disrespectful comments like him being told to fuck himself half an hour before a cup final.