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Not happy with this at all, not happy. The only loan move I would ever accept is him going back to West Brom for another year. This happening is like telling him to start everything again for another season. At least with West Brom he could fit right back in and pro long another year on loan and pick up where he left off. I'm angry about it but Lukaku has done well to prove many of the doubters wrong, perhaps he can do this again? Best of luck to you Romelu, you will be a star soon I know you will

Tiote is a ball winning midfielder, a very good one as well, but I'm happy we never signed him because he's injury prone. We needed more aggressive players in our team and Mikel isn't aggressive in the slightest. However Ramires has flourished into a very good ball winning midfielder or box to box type what have you, so we've benefited in the end.

SEND HIM TO VITESSE!

What? We are Chelsea FC, we like playing with 1 striker!

So he's not worth 43 million?

In all fairness I was probably worse about this a year ago, but I know what you mean.

Personally I think he should have been sold (only if we had of replaced him that is) And if he is as good as some say it wont matter, he wont fit into the system regardless. We wont have many games like we did against United and Bayern, this isn't five years ago, we aren't counter attackers anymore. We keep the ball and look for any option to get a goal, our play requires good movement, passing, creativity and first touches. However this is Mikel's fault he failed to perform when he had to fight for his place. When Essien was out for 6 months two seasons ago it was Mikel's time to flourish, he failed. He had a bad season last season and we can't keep making excuses, sorry Mikel fans but the results haven't been positive for him. The best option is to move on and replace him.

I would rather keep him here and not play him at all than loan him to Arsenal.

You talk as though we actually care, I put more thought into wiping my arse than I do with trying to make a 'great' impression for you or any other fans who come on here begging for attention

R.I.P Harsh on such a great guy!

Well that's exactly what Sam did, yet you went on his thread and liked his post anyway. Does making a big announcement in this section give you that much boost? Cause I'm seriously thinking of considering making a topic everyday. Go on the thread bayern munich chelsea thread and see for yourself, he called two people idiots in a response. And the Mak pretty much summed up his trolling in his own thread, he's just baiting for arguments and he's been doing it for a long time. You think I can't deal with it? I dealt with your disrespect against me saying you're going to unban me then ban me again, and this silly thor thing? I don't insult people, I believe in what I post and if I'm wrong I'll admit it, and sometimes I just get on with it. Also what of JayC? He has gotten away with bloody murder, once again he started calling people stupid arrogant and idiots just in the english football thread.

So you insult by calling someone ignorant, and then say this. Well done, great contribution to the forum, I love having other fans who can come on and have a 'nice' debate on the forum.

I wonder if you would be saying that if it had been Bale in our team and Hazard in theirs.

So this is what it comes to? Someone makes a thread and action gets taken just like that without the situation even being investigated. You know funny thing is the Mak summed this up in the other thread, he did a better investigation than any of you guys did. But anyway what's the point? I've probably disrespected your opinion so that's that for me then, I'm done.

Ramires doesn't have much besides pace.

Ramires does great things there and then, but that doesn't mean he's world class. He's got very poor ball control and a bad first touch, he's almost an average player without his pace, his pace determines his game that much. He's not world class, not even near, he hasn't got great technical aspects, he's only flashy now and then and has a great set of legs, he's also not a very smart player going forward. He's got a great burst of pace running up, but he lacks so much flair and creativity when he's in even the most simple of positions. If he is close to world class then there must be about 200 world class players in the world right now at least.

Ramires is nowhere near world class.

Lampard-Ramires John Obi Mikel can't cover much space, he is only good for games we are playing in our own half. MVG is young and inexperienced, it would be stupid to say he's our best midfielder. Essien is not the player he was 3 years ago, good backup player but not the best for our midfield.

How would that of been any better? So we leave Ivanovic on who has played a full 115 minutes (at that time) and then shot Azpi on? The threat out wide wasn't as bad, we just needed to defend everything that came into the box, Bayern where just crossing from distance that's all they could do, we restricted them. Putting Terry on was a great call, because he helped massively wit the Ariel threats. Do people realize that we only lost because of a stupid free kick? A mistake from Lampard and then a bit of luck for it to land so loverly for Martinez, this wasn't a tactical error it wasn't a mistake by the manager, this wouldn't of been any different if Azpi was on.

Remember the Liverpool game where we decided to leave our attackers on instead of putting on Terry, and they scored in the 97th minute. Different type of game I know, but we had to put a centre back on to at least try to avoid the outcome of what happened last time. Unfortunately that didn't happen, but how the hell can we know? That's just saying things in hindsight we can never know the outcome, we had 10 men, our defense was knacker ed what manager would say hang on we're played over half an hour with 10 men, lets just leave the tired Hazard on and go out and attack. As I said you're saying this in hindsight, put yourself in Mourinhos shoes at that exact time instead of judging the outcome and moan about what happened, you have to be logical.

Spurs had a fantastic start but just haven't been in it since the Arsenal goal. Either the team needs time or they are going to kick-start sometime else during this season. All there players so far this game have looked more like individuals rather than a team.

Spurs are dominating here.

I hope the north london derby is better than that boring game. One thing I must say though Spurs and Arsenal rarely have boring games, most games I've seen of them there have been a shit load of goals.

Coutinho always goes missing in the big games.