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Chelsea would want to avoid the the immense tax trigger, so yeah you are right if Chelsea willing to fork out the extra money. I agree 30m is a lot, i think they will sell for a lot less then that. Pedro is leaving i have no doubt about that, Chelsea or another club.

1. You might be aware release clause has huge tax ramification. So Barca has to agree to something less then the release clause, and Chelsea would want to avoid that. 2. I don't think Barca has any intention of keeping him tbh, why would they reduce his release clause to a somewhat reasonable price if they want to keep him? Honestly i don't think we will pay 30m Euros, this will be negotiated it will more likely be closer to 20m.

That was confusing, i think i understand what you mean. By your explantation. Willian will be here next season no matter what and he will be a starter at the beginning of the season. Willian will be given continues trust so that is not in question. We are talking about Mou, he is very loyal to his players. So Willian will be trusted, clearly uncharacteristic if he was benched by Mou without any reason. Remember Mou brought Luis..........And i am still waiting for him to replace Azpi, and Azpi moved back to the RB. Still hasn't happened and now he seems on his way out. Under 99% of managers i have no doubt Luis would have been a starter. If Pedro displaces Willian that is quite an accomplishment. You have a preference for Willian that is fine, Pedro brings something different to the table though. They are different players. Pedro would be a welcomed addition, paying 12-15 pounds is an investment i would make.

Players should start based on merit. Not because you like a player and dislike a player. No player place should be guaranteed, there is not a Chelsea i like that much to put him ahead of Chelsea best interest.

Why not wait until next season to reward Mou with a new contract extension? He has two years left on his contract, and another season would give Chelsea a better description of where we are heading with Mou.

Bastian will do great individually if he stays injury free, The quality of CMs in the PL is so poor i have no doubt he will do great things. Also his familiarity with LVG makes this a no brainer, he will be used correctly unlike ADM or Falcao. As for United, i still think they need more work especially in the ST department for me to take them seriously as legit contenders.

Man wish we could hijack his potential transfer to United, one of my favorite non Chelsea players over the years.

It showed be obvious to anyone at this point, that Oscar has stamina issues and he is quite clearly physically undeveloped. No point arguing that, hopefully this is a focus of his. But when i see Oscar minutes compared to extraordinary fit players like Alexis, Willian, Messi, and Ronaldo. I am like oh so what is your point? Those players are extremely fit they can handle those type of minutes and work load. Those players are extremely fit and i knew that, Oscar can not handle those minutes i already knew that too. It is just stating the obvious, everyone and their mothers knows that. But it is not really applicable argument against why Oscar wouldn't benefit from a summer rest. It should be obvious no that a player that lacks good stamina/endurance would benefit from a good amount of rest? Btw Neymar 2013/2014 season was kinda like Oscar's to an extent. In fact Barca fans will tell you that, and some believed that he was saving himself for the World Cup. Also Neymar injury in the world cup gave him some appropriate rest, just to be clear on that. Anyway the season starts in just over a month, we will see what would be the case.

Promise to replay at a later time, because i need some time to replay to this as best as possible.

So you knew Josh on a personal level? How can you make such statements about a person without knowing him?

Juve fans are extremely confident that Pogba will stay for another season. I think that will be the case, if Pogba leaves it will be next season.

lol Chelsea youth outsourcing policy.

Not in my opinion, the whole exercise is meant to show that we perceive an object by its surrounding, in this example it was the orange circle. Most would say the one on the right is bigger because it is surrounded by smaller circles. For some(like you) the surrounding anchored you to perceive the circle to be bigger since it was surrounded by other big circles. The answer in this example is absolute, they are both the same size. In real life the answers are not so absolute. How you perceive the world and someone else does not matter, you can never be sure what is right and wrong. There is no wrong way or right way to see the world in most cases.

They are both the same size, however you pick the one where most would say is smaller. Demeaned? How so? I do not do so. Football is a team sport, a lot of players contributed to our season success. Even unpopular players like Cahill, who should be given the same amount of credit. You could make the same argument for him. Just because i do not inflate Willian performance does not mean i am demonizing him. A huge contrast. His second half was better then his first, but a minimal change. My post was meant to give a unique perspective my friend. Where can you(anyone) prove that Willian was as good as the majority here believe to be?

Which Portugal club do you follow? if it is applicable

Which Orange circle is bigger? Smh no love for our Defense in the second half of the season? I feel Hazard literally carried our team offensively, and match by match our defenders/GK(Tibo and Cech) one or another put in a MOTM performance. Our defense was so clutch it is criminal not put Azpi and Terry in the top 3 players of the second half of the season. The thing is most believe Hazard was better in the second half of the season, but that untrue. It is only perceived that way because Cesc, Costa, Matic, and Oscar were all playing great football in first half of our season. Cesc and Costa were both in the argument as Chelsea POTY. In the second half their form severely went down, but Hazard form stayed the same. Hazard performance didn't change in the second half, everyone else did. Hazard was not better in the second half, it is false perception we came to believe because everyone else was worse. You can never trust eyes. The answer to the circle question is they are both the same size. How can people be so sure of how well Willian played in the second half of the season? couldn't that be a trick of the mind, because how faulty comparison is sometime. Because context matters we compare things to everything else, not for what they really are. Couldn't you mistake a 6/10 looking chick for a 10 if you put her in a room a bunch looking fugly chicks? YES you can, i have and i know this concept very well. Btw i am not saying Willian is a bad guy looking dude that is not what i am getting at. Back to Willian how confident are you in your assessment? The stats doesn't say he was better at any important category if you want to bring up, but for some reason some think stats argument are weak and imaginary. Because there are outliers like Xavi and Ineista, that doesn't mean it is applicable to everyone. Some players are shit finishers and do not have an end product, it is that simple. Also the quote "There are three kind of lies: Lies, damned Lies, and statistics" has been falsely attributed to Mark Twain and Einstein. They never said that, people credit them when stats didn't back their argument. Stats are not everything all the time, but for FFS they happen and it is reality don't swap them down just because they don't back up your theory/agenda. Damn that is a long post, but if you read that thank you very much for your time.

LVG has a horrible record with South American players, that is the only thing that is giving me hope atm.

Whenever i see an Oscar vs Willian argument, i think to myself why does it even matter neither have shown to be good enough. Neither player have justified a guaranteed role in the starting XI. Hopefully next season they both canalize each other minutes, so we don't see both in the starting XI. Best case scenero when one is off form the other plays well. It would be interesting to see if Willian is so much better in the middle like some have claimed, and also if Oscar will finally have a breakout season with full summer rest.

General Consensus? :carlo2: Who is this general consensus you talking about? football scouts? managers? analysts? fans?

Sleep deprivation and lack of sleep does not equal no sleep at all. I used that example because i do acknowledge that Oscar does get some rest in the summer, his NT is not as grueling as his duty for Chelsea. Willian was ridding the bench for Brazil first of all. Second of all just because a theory does not effect everyone the same it does not mean the theory is false. I will go back to the sleep example. Studies show that lack of proper sleep(6-8hours) damages our cognitive ability, they have done actually brain scan that shows that. But that does not mean some people are not better then others in functioning without sleep. I know some people who are like machines and sleep around 4hours a day. You have the right to believe that Oscar will not do better next season, you can argue that of course. But i don't see how you can argue against the theory though. Btw at the end of the season Mou said the same thing, he believes Oscar will do better next season and he argued the fact he will get proper rest in the summer as a main contributing factor.

Not sure if trolling or being serious here. Lets get off the football topic for a second. Think of the time when you didn't get much sleep and were sleep deprived, you are most focused and energized for the day in the beginning, as time goes on your energy is completely sapped. It is the same freaking theory lol.

I would say a contract negotiation at this point has not been finalized and is still ongoing. His agent is trying to get Turan the best contract possible. His agent is doing his best to make sure to allude to Barca that Turan has other offers, that is why he has been saying he is negotiating with an unknown English team. It gives him leverage to negotiate the best possible contract for his client. As i have said this Turan saga is very similar to the time when we were linked to Pastore. To this day i believe we never made a bid for Pastore, but Zamp convinced everyone and more importantly PSG that we were in a bidding war with them. The rest as they say is history, Zamp bamboozled PSG and was awarded 50m for a player that was nowhere close to being worth that much. *Pastore btw had his best season 14/15 and he seems like heading in the right direction after four season at PSG.

From reports it seems like Inter is the fav to land Salah, good place for him.

I have not watch a single lick of CP games, but honestly is there any PL team you would send a youngster to? Not for me If Rayo is interested it should be a forgone conclusion, it is a great place for him. Paco is a wonderful manager. They play really good football.

I would think he replaces Kondoggbia, if he is good enough --------Martial---------- YFC---Moutinho---Silva ----Pasalic--Toulalan