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    striker got a reaction from Beigl in 🇧🇪 Eden Hazard   
    Anyone who is still saying Hazard doesn't want to play for Chelsea after today is an idiot.
    Even after the 1-0 he is still working his ass of trying to get back.
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    striker got a reaction from Stingray in 🇧🇪 Eden Hazard   
    Maybe, just maybe the reason might be that he was not fit during most part of the season.
    Can't you see the difference in his dribbling? Since his rest he looks for the physical contact again, like last season.
     
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    striker got a reaction from Blue Armour in 🇧🇪 Eden Hazard   
    Maybe, just maybe the reason might be that he was not fit during most part of the season.
    Can't you see the difference in his dribbling? Since his rest he looks for the physical contact again, like last season.
     
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    striker reacted to Belgiannutt in 🇧🇪 Eden Hazard   
    Sorry but that's just ridiculous. Do you really need the expertise of medics and doctors to realize you can't run ? After his fall against Leicester he was struggling to just walk off the pitch. He actually had to pause and take a couple of seconds before he could continue walking again to the touchline. I mean he missed the next game and then almost 2 weeks later he still wasn't 100 % and only played 25 minutes. Seems like pretty conclusive proof that the injury was serious.
    Against Palace he strained his groin taking a shot on goal, tried to continue and 5 minutes later he slipped which worsened the injury. Again do you really need a medic or doctor's expertise to realize you've strained your groin and shouldn't continue ?
    Also it's pretty clear that he wasn't 100 % when he came in against Watford and started against Man United 2 days later. Hiddink even said so. No coincidence that he injured his groin on the same side as his hip injury.
     
    You say his attitude stinks. That he shows zero fight and commitment but if that really was the case then why didn't he just tell Hiddink that he wasn't 100 % and couldn't play against Watford (Won the penalty remember?), Man United and Palace ?
    Why go through the trouble ? Why would he try if his attitude stinks ? If he doesn't want to fight ? If he isn't commited to us ? Why try ?
     
    I get the feeling that due to Hazard's lack of injuries people seem to think that he's always 100 %. That he never plays with minor injuries, which is simply impossible with the amount of times he gets the absolute shit kicked out of him. 
    I think a lot of people underestimate Hazard's abillity to presevere, to play with injuries. He's played 188 games for us in 3 and a half seasons. (stat stolen from Styles ) 
    There's no way he played all those games, in such a short time, without having to go through pain and other difficulties from injuries. I mean how many times does he get kicked from behind on the ankles and his achilles. How many times have oppponents stomped on his feet.
    How many times have they kicked him on the legs because they were either to slow or trying to cynically stop him.
    There's no way he could have played all those games without being strong-willed to play.
     
    "He is the most undeserving recipient of the Player of the Year award I can remember"
    Let's be fair, he had several good spells last season, but in terms of consistency, the fact he beat Terry, Azpilicueta and Matic, who were all utterly outstanding from start to finish, to that accolade was an absolute piss-take
    It really wasn't. You're rewriting history there. Last season he wasn't great in the first 2 months( August & September) but from October he was performing really well and created lots of chances. Only difference between before january and after january is that he became more decisive. After January and onwards he got the goals and assists that won us games. 
    Pretty sure Matic was among the players that had a dip in form around the january period. Him, Cahill, Ivanovic dropping form was a big reason of why we went more pragmatic. ( along with Fabregas, Oscar and Costa dropping form aswell)
    Terry and Azpi were consistent but as a defender it's easier being consistent as there are quite a number of games where our defense had very little to do. Before january we were dominating the opponents and they weren't really able to threaten us that much.
    After january we went very defensive which made it easier for our defenders as they had more support. To be clear not saying they didn't have great season but were their performances of such a level that they deserved the accolade over Hazard ?
    No I don't think so.
    Hazard carried our attack that second part of the season. It was all on him to create our chances. He had a free role but in exchange was given very little support. In difficult circumstances, with the title on the line, he stepped up. If he didn't we wouldn't have won the league.
     
    Why would Bale, James, Griezmann want to come here ? Why would they leave their club that has CL football for one that doesn't ? I've seen people say "well it would only be for 1 season" but we can't guarantee that so why would they take the risk.
    Also they have other teams after them aswell that can offer CL football next season. So again why would they come here ? Reus is injury prone. Just take a look at his injury record.  I don't think he would take too well to the PL.
    The tackles, the amount games we play in short time, no winter break.
    "We play better without him"
    And you're basing this on what exactly ? The Sunderland game ? Watford game ?  Palace game ? 
    We've been a bit better under Hiddink. All the players seem to be performing better under him.
    Before you make such claims shouldn't you actually wait untill Hazard plays a couple of games under Hiddink ?
    So far he's played 25 minutes against Watford and 90 minutes against Man United. He won the penalty against Watford that should have won us the 3 points and created the best chance for us in the Man United game, playing out of position, while not being 100% fit.
     
    Ivanovic gets slagged off more because he's  clearly passed his best. While he's improved his performances from the beginning of the season he still gets beaten far too easily in 1 on 1 situations and his attacking contributions are close to zero even though he gets the most space out of all our players.
    Hazard became 25 just a couple of days ago. He still has a lot of football left to play and it's a lot more likely that he'll regain his form.
     
    Don't get why you're bringing up Drogba's return. I don't think anyone here actually believes Drogba is coming back to motivate Hazard to stay. He's simply here to appease the fans.
     
    Honestly don't want to go too deep into the whole Azpi left back thing as this post is already extremely long. I'll just say this.
    I don't like Azpi on the left. Azpi on the left is an extremely negative, pragmatic choice. Hazard would thrive (and would have thrived) much more if he got (had gotten) an actual left footed attacking fullback overlapping him.
     
    "You aren't allowed the freedom in the Premier League that Barcelona can offer Messi, Neymar, and Suarez."
    City frequently play with 2 attacking fullbacks, a 2 man midfield consisting of Fernandinho and Yaya Touré and a front four Sterling Silva De Bruyne Aguero.
    It's possible if you have the balls.
    It doesn't have to be so extreme as Barcelona but it is possible for our widemen not to have to defend so deep. If you push up your defense then your attackers, along with your midfield, have far less ground to cover. Otherwise our front players have to constantly run 40- 50-60 yards to get back into position then when we recover the ball they have to run 40-50-60 yards before they get into the final third of the opposition.
     
    Willian is Willian, Hazard is Hazard. Willian doesn't have the abillity that Hazard has on the ball. Hazard doesn't have the stamina and workrate that Willian has. Play them to their strenghts and don't shoehorn them into a role that doesn't suit them.
     
    "as a number 10 (where he struggles to impose himself on the opposition)" 
    Struggles to impose huh. Norwich, Stoke and Stoke in the COC. He's played his best games this season on the 10.
     
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    striker reacted to Jase in 🇧🇪 Eden Hazard   
    It's like people never learned with the De Bruyne, Lukaku scenarios...
    Just like how the fans booed Costa in the Sunderland match and suddenly it's all 'Diego, Diego, Diego' in the following games.
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    striker reacted to Jase in 🇧🇪 Eden Hazard   
    Find it quite sad that some people are turning their backs so easily on Hazard, the player who won the Player of the Year accolades last season and the one who led us to the title when everyone else had ran out of steam last year, after one bad half of a season. Granted, he has been poor but I don't think he deserves his professionalism to be questioned at all (it only really picked up steam after Mourinho threw him under the bus at Leicester). If some can show a lot of patience with Mourinho, who was in his worst moment and after all the wrong things he's done, then why can't people do the same with Hazard? (heck, even Torres got far more patience despite doing next to nothing!) We are not talking about an average player here. We are talking about a special talent who has played his part in helping us win things in recent years and who will become of the best in years to come. He deserves better support than what he has been shown so far, particularly in his toughest moment of his career.
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    striker reacted to Jase in 🇧🇪 Eden Hazard   
    No but constantly banging on about that point and using it as an excuse to question whether he's faking his injury is nonsensical. And the point you and some others are trying to make would carry more weight if it was brought into the question before Mourinho threw Hazard under the bus and questioned his professionalism at Leicester.
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    striker reacted to Jase in 🇧🇪 Eden Hazard   
    Had Hazard picked up this injury in any of the last 3 seasons, would anyone really be questioning him? All of this came about because we sacked Mourinho last month and doubting his honesty and professionalism due to that seems farcical.
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    striker reacted to Reddish-Blue in 🇧🇪 Eden Hazard   
    We have 8 under-performing players who all deserve criticism and 'booing' from the fans...targeting 3 of them and calling them rats to release the frustration is pretty pathetic
    Fans may be upset at losing Mourinho but this is Chelsea FC, not Mourinho FC.
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    striker reacted to Weckerz in 🇧🇪 Eden Hazard   
    Only a reaction to so called fans wanting to sell our 2x POTY because Mourinho got sacked.
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    striker reacted to Belgiannutt in 🇧🇪 Eden Hazard   
    Please tell me this is sarcasm. I mean you can't actually be that stupid ?
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    striker reacted to lucio in The Mourinho Thread   
    i feel like he betrayed them
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    striker reacted to Clockwork in The Mourinho Thread   
    I feel no sympathy for any manager who loses the support of his players. That is on the manager.
    I feel that way about any leadership position in all walk of life. That is on you, not your subordinates.
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    striker reacted to Darogba in The Mourinho Thread   
    Well I'm glad you're not in charge of the club. By January we'd have been knee deep in relegation and next season we would be playing in the championship. The club made the right decision, the team is winning again and that's all matters. If you love Jose so much stop supporting the club and go support whatever club appoints him next. I'm glad he's been sacked.
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    striker reacted to Belgiannutt in 🇧🇪 Eden Hazard   
    That's perfectly fine mate. It's the constant accusations and attacks on Hazard's character and integrity as a professional football player ( and person), without a single shred of evidence to back it up, that piss me off.
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    striker reacted to Atholy in 🇧🇪 Eden Hazard   
    This guy took like one trillion (very hard) tackles in the past three years in a Chelsea shirt and ALWAYS got up again. On top of that he never ever complained about one single of these tackles with the Ref or the opposing player!
    That alone makes him a one of kind player that simply needs to be respected for that!
    The guys that are complaining about his ego/mental weakness/'he's faking his injury' have really reached rock bottom for me!
    I don't say Hazard is immune for criticism, not at all!!
    But as it comes to the injury topic... you guys are really making a fool out of yourself and you might as well just sh*t up!
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    striker got a reaction from The Chels in 🇧🇪 Eden Hazard   
    The problem is not Hazards position but the way the team plays tactically. Barca plays most of the time on the oppositions half and when they lose the ball they try to regain the ball as soon as possible by pressing on the oppositions half.
    Chelsea run back when losing posession. That's a choice off course but a choice that does not go in favour of our attacking players like Hazard or Willian because they get into posession too far from goal.
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    striker got a reaction from Atholy in 🇧🇪 Eden Hazard   
    The problem is not Hazards position but the way the team plays tactically. Barca plays most of the time on the oppositions half and when they lose the ball they try to regain the ball as soon as possible by pressing on the oppositions half.
    Chelsea run back when losing posession. That's a choice off course but a choice that does not go in favour of our attacking players like Hazard or Willian because they get into posession too far from goal.
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    striker got a reaction from zolayes in 🇧🇪 Eden Hazard   
    The problem is not Hazards position but the way the team plays tactically. Barca plays most of the time on the oppositions half and when they lose the ball they try to regain the ball as soon as possible by pressing on the oppositions half.
    Chelsea run back when losing posession. That's a choice off course but a choice that does not go in favour of our attacking players like Hazard or Willian because they get into posession too far from goal.
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    striker reacted to Blue-in-me-Veins in 🇧🇪 Eden Hazard   
    He was being sarcastic mate.. DYC has been one of Hazard's defenders. lol
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    striker reacted to sutro in 🇧🇪 Eden Hazard   
    A traitor lol, the guy is having the most difficult time he ever had in his career and you label him as a traitor?
    Like Barbara said, this place is hopeless
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    striker reacted to johnnythefirst in 🇧🇪 Kevin de Bruyne   
    Haha, I just read your praise in the Costa thread and then I came here. Too funny.
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    striker reacted to Muzchap in 🇧🇪 Eden Hazard   
    Dude just leave it
    You don't think Hazard is great, others do - go post in another thread and stop regurgitating pointless debates.
    Like I said to you earlier - I hope I never have to witness Eden in the starting 11 for one of our rivals (PL or CL) as we will live to regret it.
    I have had frustrating times with him as a player, because I set unrealistic expectations, but currently he's one of only a few bright stars in our otherwise dull as dishwasher squad...
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    striker got a reaction from Muzchap in 🇧🇪 Eden Hazard   
    You really don't get it do you!When a team losses the ball they have 2 options.
    1. Pressing forward to regain ball posession as soon as possible. This is what teams like Bayern, Barca,... do. This way you regain posession further up the pitch. Closer to the opponents goal.
    This way, their attacking players can use their individual skill close to the opponents goal.
    2. Running back and waiting for the opponent to make a mistake. That is Jose's tactic. Problem for highly skilled players like Willian or Hazard is that they get the ball om their OWN half or around the middle of the pitch. Far away from the opponents goal.
    So it is nearly impossible to BE dangerous in front of goal.
    Willian was great against Liverpool. But how many times was he able to try to dribble someone naar the opponents penalty area?
    And that is the problem players like Hazard or Willian have in this kind of tactic.
    Now we are talking about Hazard missing that 1 chance. That is not the problem. The problem is he usually only gets 1 or 2 chances in a game. Players like Robben from top teams like Bayern or Barca get more than 1 or 2 chances a game so it's no big deal if they miss one. And beleive me, they also miss chances.
    So the problem with Mourinho is not wether or not he gives someone a free role, but his complete tactics. You can never play dominant with his tactics.
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    striker reacted to iseah100 in 🇧🇪 Eden Hazard   
    Agree. We've seen him get frustrated numerous times cause his teammates just stand around. He needs a manager who can unlock all his attacking potential. Until then he won't be the best in the world not named Messi and Ronaldo.
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