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Steve

Stamford Bridge

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5 hours ago, Iggy Doonican said:

Can't see them knocking down the hotel but making the Shed a 6,000 capacity was a joke and the blame is firmly at Bates door for that

Bates was very constrained on the capacity in his time by the local authority. Saying that the MH and shed are not great stands, the space in the concourses are rubbish. UK grounds are terrible in design, compared to say Deutscheland

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2 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

 

Bates was very constrained on the capacity in his time by the local authority. Saying that the MH and shed are not great stands, the space in the concourses are rubbish. UK grounds are terrible in design, compared to say Deutscheland

It would be good to rebuild the Shed emd and amass all us big gobs in there again.

Apparently we have got the OK IF he buys Wembley

Chelsea handed major boost following Shahid Khan's bid to buy Wembley stadium

https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/news/chelsea-wembley-bid-stamford-bridge-14585021

 

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28 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

It would be good to rebuild the Shed emd and amass all us big gobs in there again.

Apparently we have got the OK IF he buys Wembley

Chelsea handed major boost following Shahid Khan's bid to buy Wembley stadium

https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/news/chelsea-wembley-bid-stamford-bridge-14585021

 

Why not put a bid in for wembley rebuilding the bridge will cost £1.2b why wembley is costing £800m to buy?? 

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28 minutes ago, the wes said:

Why not put a bid in for wembley rebuilding the bridge will cost £1.2b why wembley is costing £800m to buy?? 

Location, Location. Plus can we fill 90,000 a week? Also Wembley looks like shit tbh.

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1 minute ago, DDA said:

Location, Location. Plus can we fill 90,000 a week? Also Wembley looks like shit tbh.

I don't think we could fill 90,000 a week and the atmosphere is crap at Wembley aswell but rebuilding the bridge costs a lot more money tho 

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I'll love it if we permamove to Wembley. I live like 20 minutes from Wembley by car, and I'm 4 train stations away from Wembley Park. Piss easy for me to get to Wembley.

 

On the other hand, we will then move to North London territory. If the rivalry between us, Spuds and Arsenal isn't as strong now, it will be 50x that.

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4 hours ago, the wes said:

I don't think we could fill 90,000 a week and the atmosphere is crap at Wembley aswell but rebuilding the bridge costs a lot more money tho 

Out of curiosity, anyone know spurs average attendances at wembley this season?

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16 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

 

Bates was very constrained on the capacity in his time by the local authority. Saying that the MH and shed are not great stands, the space in the concourses are rubbish. UK grounds are terrible in design, compared to say Deutscheland

It's funny FB in the early 90's when the Taylor report was published Bates wanted a capacity of 42,000 which then was probably just about right even though in those days you could count on one hand the number of times we would fill it. But we went through the same shit with the council back then the West Stand didn't get completed till 2000 I think. In Bates defence he didn't know how big football would become and I don't blame him trying to find other streams of revenue for the club. But it almost looked like the Shed was an afterthought the temporary stand not sure of the capacity but it was the same near enough as the rebuilt Shed.

 

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19 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said:

I live in Gloucester and have travelled down to Chelsea a few times for midweek games with my dad and it's a pain. Taking half a day minimum off work because ideally we need to catch the bus around lunchtime and not getting home until the early hours (with work the next day) is a slog, so I can understand your point.

Playing Devil's Advocate a bit here, but from what you've just said regarding fans from further afield. Should the club consider making an offer itself for Wembley? I know that a lot of fans, and particularly those that are based in London wouldn't be happy with this idea, but there are a few serious considerations to be made with this:

1. The stadium build is now being talked about as an estimate of around £1.2bn. You can't help but feel that the transfer activity in the last couple of years where we've adopted a sell to buy mentality is being influenced by this and will be for potentially many years. With the money pumping into the league now and giving even mid table teams a lot more money to spend we could find ourselves falling seriously behind the top clubs if we're not careful.

2. The apparent length of time away from Stamford Bridge will be 4 seasons.

3. By the time this is all done, and by the looks of things, making huge sacrifices as a result, it will be around 2024-2025.

Buying Wembley keeps us still in London, albeit in a different area (However we were exploring alternative sites to Stamford Bridge previously). The cost of buying Wembley would be far lower than the expected costs for the Bridge. The stadium is ready to move straight into, would be far bigger than what Stamford Bridge can become and as a result the club can immediately start to benefit from the increased gate receipts, hospitality, etc helping to pay off the cost of buying the stadium that much quicker. The venue is iconic and world renowned and will allow the club to rent it out for events, England can still play there, etc again making more money for the club and the stadium's reputation would only enhance the club's own reputation across the world.

As I said, some fans won't like it but I am far more concerned that by the time this Stamford Bridge build comes to fruition, the club will have made so many sacrifices on the pitch to compensate that we could be left behind. If the board believe a bigger stadium is paramount for us to continue developing and being more financially competitive then surely they should consider this if the FA is indeed open to selling.

A good post and I wish I had the answers. One thing is definite though if the corrupt and incompetent F.A. did sell Wembley to the Fulham chairman there would be an outcry but after a while football fans and the media would shrug their shoulders and accept it. If Abramovich bought Wembley the country would go fucking apoplectic there would be marches, questions in the house and the Daily Mail and Express would go into meltdown.

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12 hours ago, the wes said:

I don't think we could fill 90,000 a week and the atmosphere is crap at Wembley aswell but rebuilding the bridge costs a lot more money tho 

Wasn't there a thing about that wouldn't be able to use all the Stadium anyway and be a attendance cap in place? So be playing in a half empty stadium anyway. Plus Wembley is so soulless. 

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53 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

 

Wasn't there a thing about that wouldn't be able to use all the Stadium anyway and be a attendance cap in place? So be playing in a half empty stadium anyway. Plus Wembley is so soulless. 

It's down to Brent Council who capped the capacity but Spurs asked it to be raised and they obliged. As a former Brent Council resident I wouldn't trust them at all.

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2 hours ago, Unionjack said:

Good news lets hope.

 

Parliament to discuss safe standing after petition reaches 100,000 signatures

We are a step closer to implementing safe standing in England

https://www.football.london/premier-league/parliament-discuss-safe-standing-after-14604776

I would actually love for this to happen. The amount of times I have to bite my lip at The Bridge when I stand up at near goal moments and some twat behind me doing his crossword yells sit down. Football is an emotional game and I just can't helo myself.

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3 hours ago, Unionjack said:

Good news lets hope.

 

Parliament to discuss safe standing after petition reaches 100,000 signatures

We are a step closer to implementing safe standing in England

https://www.football.london/premier-league/parliament-discuss-safe-standing-after-14604776

Shame. If this happens I can only hope that my fears about the implications are unfounded. I have little faith in the good behaviour of football fans. At the Emirates the other night there were grown men supporting Chelsea who were chanting F’s and C’s with little Children sat all around them.

Last year someone posted a video of Chelsea fans in a stadium baiting fans of the other team. There were F’s, W’s and the obligatory hand gestures. The caption said ‘Great support’. I don’t agree.

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1 minute ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Shame. If this happens I can only hope that my fears about the implications are unfounded. I have little faith in the good behaviour of football fans. At the Emirates the other night there were grown men supporting Chelsea who were chanting F’s and C’s with little Children sat all around them.

Last year someone posted a video of Chelsea fans in a stadium baiting fans of the other team. There were F’s, W’s and the obligatory hand gestures. The caption said ‘Great support’. I don’t agree.

And us standing up will make it worse because.....................??

I like standing up at games, It adds to the atmosphere. And I also sometimes call the opposition F' W's too. I'm a baaaaad boy!

But I really can't see any problems with this safe standing even if its just in the ends.. Plus it would allow a larger capacity.

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Just now, Unionjack said:

And us standing up will make it worse because.....................??

I like standing up at games, It adds to the atmosphere. And I also sometimes call the opposition F' W's too. I'm a baaaaad boy!

But I really can't see any problems with this safe standing even if its just in the ends.. Plus it would allow a larger capacity.

Because testosterone is testosterone.

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Just now, OhForAGreavsie said:

Because testosterone is testosterone.

But we have that sitting don mate. I cant see it getting higher if e are sitting  or standing. Look how excited we (I) get just watching us on telly. And the sectioning at the grounds is so tight the fans cant get at each other even if they wanted to.

Peeps can always goto a side stand if they dont want noise amd excitement. But its all part of the day I think.

Its changed so much at the Bridge. Got too PC. Peeps on laptops, Mobiles in the air all over. Getting scolded for standing up. Not like going for a pie and a pint then shouting yer fool head off. Or am I neanderthal?

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3 hours ago, Unionjack said:

But we have that sitting don mate. I cant see it getting higher if e are sitting  or standing. Look how excited we (I) get just watching us on telly. And the sectioning at the grounds is so tight the fans cant get at each other even if they wanted to.

Peeps can always goto a side stand if they dont want noise amd excitement. But its all part of the day I think.

Its changed so much at the Bridge. Got too PC. Peeps on laptops, Mobiles in the air all over. Getting scolded for standing up. Not like going for a pie and a pint then shouting yer fool head off. Or am I neanderthal?

Just on the scolding point. No one has ever told me to sit down when I’ve been in the MH lower but it does happen is the West if people overdo it. Thing is not everyone wants to stand but if the lad or lass in front is doing so ‘persistently’ then they are basically saying everyone has to if the want to see.

Obviously I get the opposite point of view. Not everyone wants to be left with no choice but to sit. I am genuinely worried though about what we might allow back into the game along with standing. The idiots of the 70’s & 80’s are old now but new idiots are born every minute. Things do become more boisterous when young men stand in large groups of like minded individuals. Allocated seating breaks up those groups, safe standing facilitates them.

When boisterous people congregate tribalism rises. When people are shouting wankers at opposition fans and gesturing at them, they are much more likely to be standing than sitting. All of this turns the temperature up and I don’t think the risk is worth it. Remember, it only takes the animosity to be raised in the ground, the trouble can be sparked anywhere.

I hope that MP’s are not going to cave on this but, if they do, then I hope it turns out I was wrong to be worried. 

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6 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

but it does happen is the West if people overdo it

The West is actually a joke. I literally hate it there. Zero atmosphere, zero passion and basically zero expression from the majority of fans in that stand. I understand there are many fans who don't go to experience the game being surrounded by the more verbal and energetic types but the whole fucking stand sleeps during the game.

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