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NikkiCFC

Worst Chelsea players in 21st century?

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17 hours ago, King Kante said:

I categorised him as biggest waste of money for a number of reasons. The reasons are; 

1) He was never a £72m player and had done nothing to warrant such a fee. Hence, where players like Torres and Sheva had records to lean on. Kepa was just some random than we went mental on. 

2) You must be forgetting the Arsenal game at home. That game was for me his worst game as on the 1v1 he did his usual run out into no mans land which allows the player to slide it past him easily, then he dived the wrong way for the Bellerin goal (I mean seriously, how does a GK dive the wrong way?). 

3) Kepa's stats over 3 years (since he broke into the Bilbao first team), show no areas where you can say 'oh, look, he does this really well'. In fact, since he broke in he has conceded more goals than he should have done every single season. 

Kepa has serious defects to his game that will be difficult to iron out. These are:

1) His tenancy to swing his arms behind his back before attempting a save. This is a key reason for his 'weak wrists' and shot/save percentage. Further, this is also why his saves look great, when in fact most of them should be stopped regardless.

2) He is tiny for a GK. As they saying goes in American sports, 'you cannot teach height or size'. This is a big problem in a position, where height is probably the most important thing before agility, some may even argue it is the most inportant. 

3) He isn't brave. This is why he stays rooted to his line all the time and is awful in 1v1's (although I do give him credit for the City game where he closed down Sterling properly. I legitimately think this is the first time I have seen him do the right thing in a 1v1). 

4) His distribution is poor or at best very average. This is a problem as when you're not a top GK owning your six yard area or a top save specialist, you better have great distribution to help on attack like Ederson does. Kepa doesn't. 

5) When balls get cut in, he is very poor at covering his goal and allows himself to get very square on to a shot. Literally, I have not seen a top level GK struggle with this so much. He literally leaves the goal wide open 80% of the time on a cut back or puts himself in a really bad position to save a quick shot.

As I said, anyone who doesn't get the criticism/concerns over Kepa need to read this article; 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/platform/amp/2020/5/14/21257561/solving-chelseas-kepa-conundrum-part-1

Further, the arguement that Real wanted him is also not a great one in my opinion. Real hds him pretty much secured for €20m/£18m when he was on wages of around £10-15k per week (his initial Bilbao contract) so they probably could given him £40-50k. However, even in that situation Zidane still didn't want him. 

We should not judge him by his price tag. It is not his fault. And if you count money we got for Tibo he costed something like 35m? 

Now people want to replace Kepa with Onana or Henderson. They are not upgrade, not even close. Lollichon wanted Areola.

Kepa only has 143 top-flight games. He can only get better. I do not understand why people after great first year and not so good second season want to get rid of him right away? 

With this thinking we would sell Drogba or Kovacic after first season...

It is like you dont believe he can get awesome again for the future... In the video I posted he had some spectacular saves. 

About Arsenal game I think criticizing comes from the fact that they scored from only 2 shots on goal. It makes Kepa look bad. But listen yourself, you blame him for not saving one on one?! That is like blaming him for not saving penalty.

Why was he in this situation? Because Kante did his best Gerrard impression and Emerson also did not cover how he should.

Ok for second goal I can see why you think he should saved it I also think he could do better but still look at Tammy and Emerson, the way they defended against Ballerin is comical and Kepa was marked.

Again we can win major trophies with him. In his first season here he conceded 39 goals and if you take away City and Bournemouth games when we conceded 10 goals just 29 in 36 is great record. 

In Conte winning season we conceded 33, in the last Mourinho winning season 32. Same as Ancelotti title season.

Weak wrists thing if it is true he can work on that. But look at Valencia penalty save he still stopped the ball.

Height argument was taken down by Vesper. All top GKs are similar. 

Kepa is still better with his feet and distribution that Tibo. Even Sarri said this.

I am sure he will change your mind soon.

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

We should not judge him by his price tag. It is not his fault. And if you count money we got for Tibo he costed something like 35m? 

Now people want to replace Kepa with Onana or Henderson. They are not upgrade, not even close. Lollichon wanted Areola.

Kepa only has 143 top-flight games. He can only get better. I do not understand why people after great first year and not so good second season want to get rid of him right away? 

With this thinking we would sell Drogba or Kovacic after first season...

It is like you dont believe he can get awesome again for the future... In the video I posted he had some spectacular saves. 

About Arsenal game I think criticizing comes from the fact that they scored from only 2 shots on goal. It makes Kepa look bad. But listen yourself, you blame him for not saving one on one?! That is like blaming him for not saving penalty.

Why was he in this situation? Because Kante did his best Gerrard impression and Emerson also did not cover how he should.

Ok for second goal I can see why you think he should saved it I also think he could do better but still look at Tammy and Emerson, the way they defended against Ballerin is comical and Kepa was marked.

Again we can win major trophies with him. In his first season here he conceded 39 goals and if you take away City and Bournemouth games when we conceded 10 goals just 29 in 36 is great record. 

In Conte winning season we conceded 33, in the last Mourinho winning season 32. Same as Ancelotti title season.

Weak wrists thing if it is true he can work on that. But look at Valencia penalty save he still stopped the ball.

Height argument was taken down by Vesper. All top GKs are similar. 

Kepa is still better with his feet and distribution that Tibo. Even Sarri said this.

I am sure he will change your mind soon.

 

 

 

Well, if you look at my initial post, I categorised him under 'biggest waste of money' which meant that I was taking into consideration his fee. I clearly broke down the different areas you can categorise a player as a 'worst player/buy'. I haven't said he is the worst full stop. 

As for Onana and Henderson, I have personally touted neither. Henderson, I am not sold on as I find he can get beaten near post a lot and Onana is someone who I have seen a little of - he has looked decent enough if not a world beater - but has a massive problem with his ACoN comments. 

People say Kepa had a great season last season but I do not think he did. In fact, I would say this season he has been about the same, it is just last season we defended better. This is bourne out in his stats. Just because Chelsea fans where saying he had a great game (because that what fans do with new signings, whilst due to his saving technique he can make basic saves seem top notch) does not actually mean he was good. In fact, statistically he is doing better this year that last believe it or not.

Actually, you will find in 1v1's the average conversion rate is around 50%, they are not nailed on goals. Kepa has about a 20% save rate. This is because he places himself in no-mans land as he doesn't commit himself to either closing down the space or guarding the goal (although he did close down the space against Sterling against City, which I give him a lot of credit for as that is what he should be doing all the time. Hopefully, that will prove a turning point.)

As for the second Le Arse goal, I am sorry but any half decent PL GK should save that one. This is one of my principal issues with Kepa. A good/great GK bails out their defence when they make a mistake, with him everyone just says, 'oh, well his defence let him down'. No GK has a perfect defence which means that they do not have to face difficult shots, that is what they are meant to deal with when the defence makes a mistake. Kepa doesn't do this expect for very rare occasions like Fulham away last season and the SC against the Dippers. 

As for distribution, I wouldn't say he is great either. Both Ederson and Alisson are head and shoulders above him for sure. I mean this season, there have been a number of occasions where he has played us into serious trouble. The City home game and Everton away game are prime examples of this. I do not beat him up too much on this, as I think this happens to all GK's that get asked to play in such a way. However, his distribution if we are being honest is more Pickford level than Ederson/Alisson. 

As for his height, as I also said to Vesper, my comment was that in American sports they have a term that says 'you can't teach height and size'. This means I was criticising his wingspan (I do not think you'll argue he has short arms)/build as well as his height. Further, I also said this would not be such an issue if he has amazing skills elsewhere - shot stopping/controlling his area/instructing his defence/distribution etc. However, he doesn't. This means he cannot do what someone like Cech or TC does in that they make up for there weaker shot saving/distribution skills (neither were/are the best in the world at this) with completely dominating their area. 

Anyway, as I have said and given evidence for with the statistical break down. Kepa has been a poor GK for the past three seasons on virtually every metric you can statistically measure him on (except at Bilbao where it appears that he was good at cross collection.) This isn't me making it up or making him a 'strawman' this is true and I have provided the evidence for it. If you have counter statistical evidence and/or video footage that is not just an odd save here or there, then please share it and I would be more than happy to re-evaluate my position on him. 

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