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So pretty much you are saying that Messi is better at one facet of the game. Ronaldo also buries and creates chances by the boatload. So Messi is a better dribbler than Ronaldo (even though Ronaldo makes people look stupid with his ability on the ball.)

How is doing pointless step overs whilst going nowhere making people look stupid? Messi has made defences and players look like proper mugs literally every game due to his ball control, balance, and speed.

This debate is so bizarre considering there are individuals who still feel C.Ronaldo is in some way a better footballer.

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So pretty much you are saying that Messi is better at one facet of the game. Ronaldo also buries and creates chances by the boatload. So Messi is a better dribbler than Ronaldo (even though Ronaldo makes people look stupid with his ability on the ball.)

Cristiano takes about 8 shots a game... he scores lots of goals because he takes lots of shots and is the designated fk for everything....

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Talent wise Ronaldo is on another level then Messi. He can do everything, Messi cannot. I don't even get how people compare them as players, they are much too different.

I think you are talking about who is more complete than I agree with you Ronaldo is much2 more complete than messi.

He is two footed whereas Messi is extemely left foot dominance. Tbh I am glad that he is left footed dominace, if he can dribble and finish with his right foot as well as his left foot. We can all forget about UCL

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I think you are talking about who is more complete than I agree with you Ronaldo is much2 more complete than messi.

He is two footed whereas Messi is extemely left foot dominance. Tbh I am glad that he is left footed dominace, if he can dribble and finish with his right foot as well as his left foot. We can all forget about UCL

Cristiano is like Frank lampard.

Neither are complete players or good overall for their position, but they're both goal scorers with a great eye for goal and both take a ton of shots.

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Ronaldo is just as good as passing as Messi. I don't even have to look far into the past to give you a perfect example of his passing capabilities, just look at highlights from this weeks Real Madrid game and you will see a beautiful give and go and then give back from Ronaldo to Benzema.

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Can we call it even and just say King Zlatan is the most complete attacking player in the world?

How is he the 'most complete' when he's a well known big game bottler?

Ronaldo is just as good as passing as Messi.

Not in the slightest.

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He didn't play well (well, not on Messi level), but without his important goals/actions, they would barely have survived the group stage.

dude, i dont think thats the right way to put it. messi was important to argentina in group stages but consistency wise throughtout the cup, mascherano was their best player.

chelsea's best player in our 2011-12 campaign were cech and DD, not cole, even though he made a tremondous goal line clearance against napoli which if we had conceded would definitely have seen us getting eliminated.

football is a team sport and over the course of any tournament all players will have some contribution or another. but saying a messi SINGLE HANDEDLY carried argentina to the finals of WC (which was the original point), is WRONG.

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Difference between him and Pele/Cruyff (in a lesser extent Maradona) is that he's getting to their numbers or more playing against athletic defenders that would fucking eat the hearts of every player from before the 90s. Pele was playing amateurs for most of his career. Messi and Ronaldo (and every great player from this era or the one before) get zero space.

This is one of the shittiest arguments ever. If that was true, everyone would be Pele/Cruyff in those times, if the defenders were shitty and not athletic why didn't every attacking player shit on them like Pele/Cruyff? Were the other attacking players facing different and better defenders? I don't think so. Also, if Pele/Cruyff were athletic when others weren't or if they took it more seriously than other professional players, kudos to them, they understood what it took to win better than the others.

According to your logic, let's say in some years from now everyone is born from genetic selection, people are then gonna say Messi wasn't actually that good because he played against natural born people who weren't the best genetic composition their parents or the human race could offer? Gimme a break - Pele, Cruyff and Messi were playing under the same conditions as everybody else from their respective professional times, if they stood out from everybody is because they were incredible, they were ahead of the bunch. That's what makes them legends of the game.

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Messi is a fantastic team player who will perform the individual action when needed, but will always look for a nice combination.

Ronaldo is a fantastic player who plays for Ronaldo. He will always go for individual success.

He's the better athlete but there's no competition in who's been the bigger player looking at their careers. Messi doesn't even have to win the WC to probably be considered the greatest ever when he retires. Difference between him and Pele/Cruyff (in a lesser extent Maradona) is that he's getting to their numbers or more playing against athletic defenders that would fucking eat the hearts of every player from before the 90s. Pele was playing amateurs for most of his career. Messi and Ronaldo (and every great player from this era or the one before) get zero space.

Hasen't been the case in years, Barca fans will tell you how lazy Messi has become on the pitch. One of the greatest asset Barca had in their prime was their pressing game, Messi lack of pressing has really tarnished that aspect of their game.

Messi is better slightly over Ronaldo, i give him the advantage because of his overall game.

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Hasen't been the case in years, Barca fans will tell you how lazy Messi has become on the pitch. One of the greatest asset Barca had in their prime was their pressing game, Messi lack of pressing has really tarnished that aspect of their game.

Messi is better slightly over Ronaldo, i give him the advantage because of his overall game.

He hasn't been the same since 2012 but that comment is quite a poor one considering the amount of times he has won Barca games by the stretch of his fingers, whether individually or involving everyone. Against Real Madrid for example, assists and scores bag loads against them these past couple years.

Barca fans will also tell you how no body else presses like they used to, not just Messi. And the fact that Xavi has declined tremendously after Pep has left and the defense has turned to shit.

This season however isn't the case, Messi looks to be coming to his regular best and the team is ticking together.

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