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Arse EPL away in 2024

10 games

9 wins

1 draw (Citeh)

30 goals scored

3 conceded

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Sterling on

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nil 1

FT

[Laylabelle 9,337]

No shocker..Arsenal be up there end of season again. Wherever or not win it however who knows 

Edited Sunday at 14:58 by Laylabelle

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4 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

No shocker..Arsenal be up there end of season again. Wherever or not win it however who knows 

Pep is n't winning any premier title this year.

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England. Premier League.

Wоlvеrhаmрtоn vs Nеwсаstlе Unіtеd

15 September 2024 at 16:30.

 

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https://www.vipleague.pm/epl/wolverhampton-wanderers-vs-newcastle-united-1-live-streaming

https://www.vipleague.pm/epl/wolverhampton-wanderers-vs-newcastle-united-2-live-streaming

https://www.vipleague.pm/epl/wolverhampton-wanderers-vs-newcastle-united-3-live-streaming

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https://top.soccerstreams100.io/event/eng-1/newcastle-vs-wolves-live-soccer-stats/704318

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[Pizy 18,318]

Arse didn’t do much of anything all match long but Spuds are so blunt in attack that it didn’t matter. Spuds never looked like scoring at all. They have so many bang average players in their best XI.

 

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56 minutes ago, DH1988 said:

Shove in the back, issue is the consistency, same goal next week gets VAR checked and chalked, that's the kicker.

I think the goal not being ruled out was a good decision but yeah, that literally was the same when we played Villa last season and our goal got ridiculously called off last season.

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13 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Arse didn’t do much of anything all match long but Spuds are so blunt in attack that it didn’t matter. Spuds never looked like scoring at all. They have so many bang average players in their best XI.

 

indeed

Son is ageing out

and none of the others truly strike fear in your heart

7	Heung-min Son  Left Winger	Jul 8, 1992 (32)		€45.00m
16	Timo Werner Left Winger	Mar 6, 1996 (28)		€17.00m
28	Wilson Odobert Left Winger	Nov 28, 2004 (19)		€10.00m
21	Dejan Kulusevski Right Winger	Apr 25, 2000 (24)		€55.00m
22	Brennan Johnson Right Winger	May 23, 2001 (23)		€48.00m
19	Dominic Solanke Centre-Forward	Sep 14, 1997 (27)		€40.00m
9	Richarlison  Centre-Forward	May 10, 1997 (27)		€38.00m

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1 nil

Lemina

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1 1

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1 2

great comeback by NUFC

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I was just going to say when Wolves brought on Doherty that he is shit

and boom

Barnes lit him up

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Manchester City’s lawyers begin hearing into 115 Premier League charges

• Lord Pannick KC to lead legal team at London’s IDRC
• Hearing to last 10 weeks, verdict expected in new year

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/sep/16/manchester-citys-lawyers-begin-hearing-into-premier-league-charges

 

Manchester City’s lawyers arrived at London’s International Dispute Resolution Centre (IDRC) on Monday as a hearing to examine 115 Premier League charges issued against the club began.

Lord Pannick KC from Blackstone Chambers, who is leading City’s legal team, was pictured arriving at the IDRC, close to St Paul’s Cathedral in central London. The hearing is reported to have been scheduled for 10 weeks, with the independent commission’s verdict not expected until the new year.

The charges facing City, who won a fourth straight Premier League title in May, date back as far as the 2009-10 season. It is thought the club, who are also accused of failing to co-operate with an investigation, could face a range of punishments including a severe points penalty or even expulsion from the Premier League if found guilty.

City were charged by the league in February 2023 after a long investigation into allegations published by the German magazine Der Spiegel in autumn 2018. The club deny wrongdoing and have previously said they have a “comprehensive body of irrefutable evidence” to support their stance.

City’s financial affairs have come under regular scrutiny since their takeover by Sheikh Mansour’s Abu Dhabi United Group in 2008. In 2020 they were banned from European competition after being found guilty of breaking Uefa’s financial fair play rules, but successfully challenged that ruling at the court of arbitration for sport.

 

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Everything you need to know about Manchester City’s hearing and charges

As an independent commission prepares to assess the charges levelled at the club, here’s what it all means

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/sep/15/everything-you-need-to-know-about-manchester-citys-hearing-and-charges

 

What are the accusations against Manchester City?

The Premier League has charged the champions with more than 100 breaches of competition rules between the seasons 2009-10 and 2022-23. The charges cover four areas: a failure to give “a true and fair view of the club’s financial position”; a failure to “include full details” of player and manager remuneration; breaches of national and continental financial fair play regulations; and a failure to “cooperate with, and assist, the Premier League in its investigations”. The counts will be heard by a three-person independent commission, starting on Monday, in what is thought to be a London location.

Do we have specifics?

The Premier League has published only an extended charge sheet, with no details. The timeframes, however, suggest the charges line up with claims already in the public domain. First, that City inflated the value of sponsorship deals as a means of channelling more money from their owners into the club. Second, that secret payments were made to the manager Roberto Mancini and to the then agent of Yaya Touré. Third, that these acts left the club contravening financial rules. Fourth, that when the Premier League sought to investigate the claims, City obstructed it. City have always denied any wrongdoing.

Why do the charges matter?

Because of their seismic nature and implications, whatever the verdict. Because they are unprecedented in the domestic game. And because of City’s dominance. In the 14 seasons covered by the charges, City won seven Premier League titles, six League Cups, three FA Cups and the Champions League. Since then they have won another Premier League, the Uefa Super Cup and the Fifa Club World Cup. They have played in the Champions League every season from 2011-12. This has driven the global pre‑eminence of the Premier League and increasing transfer fees (City’s squad is worth £1bn-plus). There are arguments, too, that it has affected competitive balance here and across Europe, led to the near-development of a breakaway Super League (of which City were a part) and quickened the need for independent regulation of English football. In February 2023 when the charges were brought the La Liga president, Javier Tebas, called the English top flight a “doped market”. On Friday, he told Mundo Deportivo: “I have spoken with many Premier League clubs and most of them understand that City should be sanctioned.” If City are judged to have found success while breaking the rules, the game will come under greater scrutiny.

What happens next?

Under Premier League instruction, Murray Rosen KC has selected three people to form the independent commission that will hear the charges, with one member of this panel required to be a financial expert. The hearings will be conducted privately and, though there is no formal timeframe, legal experts believe it will take a minimum of two months. When the commission publishes its verdict, either side can go to an appeals panel and, after this, arbitration. If all fails, either could attempt to find an argument to take to the high court. Under the rules of association of the Premier League there is no opportunity for either party to go to the court of arbitration for sport (Cas) in Switzerland.

If guilty, what could the punishment be?

According to rule W.51 in the Premier League handbook, a commission has the ability to levy a wide range of sanctions against any club found to have broken the rules. These include fines, the docking of points and suspension, or even expulsion, from the competition. In fact, subclause W.51.7 states that the commission can “impose upon the respondent any combination of the foregoing or such other penalty as it shall think fit”. That even leaves open the possibility of City being stripped of their titles.

What do City say?

The champions are bullish. On the record the club says it “welcomes the review” and the opportunity to “impartially consider the comprehensive body of irrefutable evidence that exists in support of its position”. Club sources also say City were not informed of the charges before they were published online. Finally, they argue that the club has been under investigation for breaching financial rules before, and were cleared.

Haven’t we been here with Uefa?

In 2020 Uefa suspended City from the Champions League for two years for “overstating its sponsorship revenue in its accounts” between 2012 and 2016, part of the same period covered by the Premier League’s charges. However, that sanction was overturned on appeal by Cas. In its ruling Cas found that a number of the claims brought by Uefa had fallen outside a five-year “time bar” which prevented historical charges. But the tribunal also argued that one key charge over payments relating to sponsorship by Etihad Airlines was “not established”. The panel said Uefa had submitted insufficient evidence and that, if its case had been correct, then City employees who had given testimony to Cas would have had to have been lying.

Is this the result of ‘Football Leaks’?

Uefa found City in breach of its financial fair play regulations in 2014 but reached a settlement under which City paid a €20m (£17m) fine and submitted reduced squads to the Champions League. The revisiting of alleged irregularities came after the document hack known as “Football Leaks” in 2015 exposed what appear to be official documents and email communication from inside City, alongside a number of other football organisations. These documents are understood to also have prompted the Premier League’s investigation, a four-year process which has brought these charges. City have previously described Football Leaks as an “orchestrated campaign” and part of “an endless attempt to damage us”.