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Wonder how sustainable United’s “play shit and still win” football is. They’ve been pretty subpar in every one of these 4 straight wins and were comfortably outplayed today yet still won 3-1. 

I think once the season goes on they’ll struggle against teams that can smother any of their trademark counters since that appears to be their only real source of goal threat still.

Still, United are done being the utter embarrassment that they have been in recent years. They’re a competent team now. Just incredibly boring at the moment.

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20 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Wonder how sustainable United’s “play shit and still win” football is. They’ve been pretty subpar in every one of these 4 straight wins and were comfortably outplayed today yet still won 3-1. 

I think once the season goes on they’ll struggle against teams that can smother any of their trademark counters since that appears to be their only real source of goal threat still.

Still, United are done being the utter embarrassment that they have been in recent years. They’re a competent team now. Just incredibly boring at the moment.

Wouldn't exactly call them boring.

Tottenham is boring. 

United have now transformed into this hard working team with players that work for each other.

Their shortcomings IMO, are just the lack of a good CM to compliment Casemiro (but even Fred and McTominay can do the donkey work in midfield and entrust Bruno and Eriksen to be creative), and good CB options on the bench. No team would like to resort to bringing Maguire off the bench to protect a lead.

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34 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

Wouldn't exactly call them boring.

Tottenham is boring. 

United have now transformed into this hard working team with players that work for each other.

Their shortcomings IMO, are just the lack of a good CM to compliment Casemiro (but even Fred and McTominay can do the donkey work in midfield and entrust Bruno and Eriksen to be creative), and good CB options on the bench. No team would like to resort to bringing Maguire off the bench to protect a lead.

I mean, as Chelsea fans it sounds a bit rich calling anyone else boring but at least we’re boring in the “dominate the ball but struggle to put chances away” kind of way. We at least try to play football.

United just sit deep, have like 30% possession, and smack the ball long to wide areas or try catch teams on the counter. That’s way more boring to me. It’s effective and getting results but for the most expensively assembled team in history I’d expect more.

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15 hours ago, LAM09 said:

His impact against Bournemouth - 

Nunez was slated for the same thing yesterday because his side didn't win. There are always double standards.

The number of touches are irrelevant, even more so considering he got an assist for Gundogan’s goal…. I mean if someone only has 8 touches but still provides and assist or a goal, how is that an issue? That’s still contributing to the team. Using touch maps is pointless, particularly if someone has provided a goal or an assist.

Even the other games where Haaland has scored or assisted, I bet his touches aren’t that high. Aguero was the same under Pep. Because he was in and around the box more than coming to feet.  Or he was stretching teams making runs off the ball.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2022/08/14/erling-haaland-eight-touches-two-passes-man-city-bournemouth/
 

even the telegraph stated in an article that despite only having 8 touches he pulled Bournemouth apart.

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4 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

The number of touches are irrelevant, even more so considering he got an assist for Gundogan’s goal…. I mean if someone only has 8 touches but still provides and assist or a goal, how is that an issue? That’s still contributing to the team. Using touch maps is pointless, particularly if someone has provided a goal or an assist.

Even the other games where Haaland has scored or assisted, I bet his touches aren’t that high. Aguero was the same under Pep. Because he was in and around the box more than coming to feet. 

Agreed. Drogba also has had games where he would be silent for long periods, but popped up when it mattered.

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