The English Football Thread

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Arse didn’t do much of anything all match long but Spuds are so blunt in attack that it didn’t matter. Spuds never looked like scoring at all. They have so many bang average players in their best XI.

 

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56 minutes ago, DH1988 said:

Shove in the back, issue is the consistency, same goal next week gets VAR checked and chalked, that's the kicker.

I think the goal not being ruled out was a good decision but yeah, that literally was the same when we played Villa last season and our goal got ridiculously called off last season.

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13 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Arse didn’t do much of anything all match long but Spuds are so blunt in attack that it didn’t matter. Spuds never looked like scoring at all. They have so many bang average players in their best XI.

 

indeed

Son is ageing out

and none of the others truly strike fear in your heart

7	Heung-min Son  Left Winger	Jul 8, 1992 (32)		€45.00m
16	Timo Werner Left Winger	Mar 6, 1996 (28)		€17.00m
28	Wilson Odobert Left Winger	Nov 28, 2004 (19)		€10.00m
21	Dejan Kulusevski Right Winger	Apr 25, 2000 (24)		€55.00m
22	Brennan Johnson Right Winger	May 23, 2001 (23)		€48.00m
19	Dominic Solanke Centre-Forward	Sep 14, 1997 (27)		€40.00m
9	Richarlison  Centre-Forward	May 10, 1997 (27)		€38.00m

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1 nil

Lemina

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great comeback by NUFC

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I was just going to say when Wolves brought on Doherty that he is shit

and boom

Barnes lit him up

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Manchester City’s lawyers begin hearing into 115 Premier League charges

• Lord Pannick KC to lead legal team at London’s IDRC
• Hearing to last 10 weeks, verdict expected in new year

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/sep/16/manchester-citys-lawyers-begin-hearing-into-premier-league-charges

 

Manchester City’s lawyers arrived at London’s International Dispute Resolution Centre (IDRC) on Monday as a hearing to examine 115 Premier League charges issued against the club began.

Lord Pannick KC from Blackstone Chambers, who is leading City’s legal team, was pictured arriving at the IDRC, close to St Paul’s Cathedral in central London. The hearing is reported to have been scheduled for 10 weeks, with the independent commission’s verdict not expected until the new year.

The charges facing City, who won a fourth straight Premier League title in May, date back as far as the 2009-10 season. It is thought the club, who are also accused of failing to co-operate with an investigation, could face a range of punishments including a severe points penalty or even expulsion from the Premier League if found guilty.

City were charged by the league in February 2023 after a long investigation into allegations published by the German magazine Der Spiegel in autumn 2018. The club deny wrongdoing and have previously said they have a “comprehensive body of irrefutable evidence” to support their stance.

City’s financial affairs have come under regular scrutiny since their takeover by Sheikh Mansour’s Abu Dhabi United Group in 2008. In 2020 they were banned from European competition after being found guilty of breaking Uefa’s financial fair play rules, but successfully challenged that ruling at the court of arbitration for sport.

 

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Everything you need to know about Manchester City’s hearing and charges

As an independent commission prepares to assess the charges levelled at the club, here’s what it all means

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/sep/15/everything-you-need-to-know-about-manchester-citys-hearing-and-charges

 

What are the accusations against Manchester City?

The Premier League has charged the champions with more than 100 breaches of competition rules between the seasons 2009-10 and 2022-23. The charges cover four areas: a failure to give “a true and fair view of the club’s financial position”; a failure to “include full details” of player and manager remuneration; breaches of national and continental financial fair play regulations; and a failure to “cooperate with, and assist, the Premier League in its investigations”. The counts will be heard by a three-person independent commission, starting on Monday, in what is thought to be a London location.

Do we have specifics?

The Premier League has published only an extended charge sheet, with no details. The timeframes, however, suggest the charges line up with claims already in the public domain. First, that City inflated the value of sponsorship deals as a means of channelling more money from their owners into the club. Second, that secret payments were made to the manager Roberto Mancini and to the then agent of Yaya Touré. Third, that these acts left the club contravening financial rules. Fourth, that when the Premier League sought to investigate the claims, City obstructed it. City have always denied any wrongdoing.

Why do the charges matter?

Because of their seismic nature and implications, whatever the verdict. Because they are unprecedented in the domestic game. And because of City’s dominance. In the 14 seasons covered by the charges, City won seven Premier League titles, six League Cups, three FA Cups and the Champions League. Since then they have won another Premier League, the Uefa Super Cup and the Fifa Club World Cup. They have played in the Champions League every season from 2011-12. This has driven the global pre‑eminence of the Premier League and increasing transfer fees (City’s squad is worth £1bn-plus). There are arguments, too, that it has affected competitive balance here and across Europe, led to the near-development of a breakaway Super League (of which City were a part) and quickened the need for independent regulation of English football. In February 2023 when the charges were brought the La Liga president, Javier Tebas, called the English top flight a “doped market”. On Friday, he told Mundo Deportivo: “I have spoken with many Premier League clubs and most of them understand that City should be sanctioned.” If City are judged to have found success while breaking the rules, the game will come under greater scrutiny.

What happens next?

Under Premier League instruction, Murray Rosen KC has selected three people to form the independent commission that will hear the charges, with one member of this panel required to be a financial expert. The hearings will be conducted privately and, though there is no formal timeframe, legal experts believe it will take a minimum of two months. When the commission publishes its verdict, either side can go to an appeals panel and, after this, arbitration. If all fails, either could attempt to find an argument to take to the high court. Under the rules of association of the Premier League there is no opportunity for either party to go to the court of arbitration for sport (Cas) in Switzerland.

If guilty, what could the punishment be?

According to rule W.51 in the Premier League handbook, a commission has the ability to levy a wide range of sanctions against any club found to have broken the rules. These include fines, the docking of points and suspension, or even expulsion, from the competition. In fact, subclause W.51.7 states that the commission can “impose upon the respondent any combination of the foregoing or such other penalty as it shall think fit”. That even leaves open the possibility of City being stripped of their titles.

What do City say?

The champions are bullish. On the record the club says it “welcomes the review” and the opportunity to “impartially consider the comprehensive body of irrefutable evidence that exists in support of its position”. Club sources also say City were not informed of the charges before they were published online. Finally, they argue that the club has been under investigation for breaching financial rules before, and were cleared.

Haven’t we been here with Uefa?

In 2020 Uefa suspended City from the Champions League for two years for “overstating its sponsorship revenue in its accounts” between 2012 and 2016, part of the same period covered by the Premier League’s charges. However, that sanction was overturned on appeal by Cas. In its ruling Cas found that a number of the claims brought by Uefa had fallen outside a five-year “time bar” which prevented historical charges. But the tribunal also argued that one key charge over payments relating to sponsorship by Etihad Airlines was “not established”. The panel said Uefa had submitted insufficient evidence and that, if its case had been correct, then City employees who had given testimony to Cas would have had to have been lying.

Is this the result of ‘Football Leaks’?

Uefa found City in breach of its financial fair play regulations in 2014 but reached a settlement under which City paid a €20m (£17m) fine and submitted reduced squads to the Champions League. The revisiting of alleged irregularities came after the document hack known as “Football Leaks” in 2015 exposed what appear to be official documents and email communication from inside City, alongside a number of other football organisations. These documents are understood to also have prompted the Premier League’s investigation, a four-year process which has brought these charges. City have previously described Football Leaks as an “orchestrated campaign” and part of “an endless attempt to damage us”.

 

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Gary Shaw, hero of Aston Villa’s 1982 European Cup triumph, dies aged 63

• Former striker sustained head injury this month
• Shaw was European Young Player of the Year in 1982

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/sep/16/gary-shaw-aston-villa-dies-1982-european-cup-hero

 

Gary Shaw, one of Aston Villa’s 1982 European Cup heroes, has died aged 63. The former striker fell seriously ill this month after being hospitalised with a head injury.

Shaw was part of a revered Villa side that enjoyed extraordinary and unparalleled success in the early 80s, winning the First Division in 1981 under Ron Saunders and in 1982 the European Cup and European Super Cup.

His performances earned him the accolade of Professional Footballers’ Association Young Player of the Year in 1981 and European Young Player of the Year in 1982. He was included in England’s 40-man preliminary squad for the 1982 World Cup in Spain but missed out on a final spot in the 22-man squad. Shaw made seven appearances for England’s Under-21s.

He is regarded one of Villa’s greatest forwards having scored 79 goals in 213 appearances for the club after joining as a 16-year-old apprentice. Born in Kingshurst, Solihull, Shaw, who idolised Bruce Rioch and Brian Little as a boyhood Villa supporter, was the local hero at the heart of Villa’s greatest day.

“Aston Villa Football Club is deeply shocked and profoundly saddened to learn that Gary Shaw, one of our European Cup-winning heroes, has passed away,” the club said. “Gary was one of our own, a talented striker who delighted supporters with his goalscoring exploits which helped fire Villa to success in the 1980s. Individual accolades would also follow for a player who was idolised by many on the terraces. He passed away peacefully earlier today surrounded by his family.”

Shaw’s part in Villa’s European Cup-winning goal is immortalised on a banner that has been a fixture on the North Stand. The banner quoting Brian Moore’s commentary of Peter Withe’s match-winning goal against Bayern Munich in Rotterdam reads: “Shaw, [Gary] Williams, prepared to venture down the left. There’s a good ball played in for Tony Morley. Oh, it must be and it is! Peter Withe!”

Shaw left Villa for Danish side Kjøbenhavns Boldklub in 1988 after a difficult period marred by a knee injury sustained at Nottingham Forest five years earlier which he later said “killed my career” and cost him England caps. He left soon afterwards for Austria, signing for the now-dissolved club Klagenfurt but returned to the Midlands with Walsall in 1990 before joining Kilmarnock and Shrewsbury Town. He finished his playing career in Hong Kong with Ernest Borel FC.

After retiring, Shaw worked as a sports media analyst for the Press Association and as a data analyst for Opta. Last month he covered Villa’s 2-1 win at Leicester’s King Power Stadium and was a popular figure in press rooms.

Shaw signed for Villa amid interest from Manchester City and QPR after excelling for Coleshill Town in the old Midland Combination league. “But Villa were my team,” he said. “I went to the League Cup final in 1971 and it broke my heart when Martin Chivers scored two late goals for Tottenham.”

Two other Villa fans who went on to play as forwards for the club paid tribute to Shaw. “I was lucky enough to be coached by him from the age of 14 to 17,” Gabby Agbonlahor said. “He used to take me, Luke and Stefan Moore, Darius Vassell off for drills. He took the strikers, did finishing with us, showed us the art of goalscoring. But he never mentioned what he achieved – he was so humble. He should have been the guy who told everyone what he had done and what a good player he was. But he just concentrated on coaching the players.”

Stan Collymore wrote on X: “When I was 11 I asked my Mom if I could have a blond wedge because of you. Her wry ‘I don’t think we can do that, Son’ will stay with me as one of my abiding memories of her, too. You were a real life superhero … You made a little boy dream big, fall in love with you, our club and the beautiful game. You were my hero on the pitch but most importantly my hero off it. The loveliest of men.”

The former Villa player and manager Brian Little wrote on X: “Gave Shawsy my number 8 shirt when I retired.. he took it to another level….R.I.P.”

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Citeh to be deducted 30 points today ?

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2 hours ago, cosmicway said:

Citeh to be deducted 30 points today ?

That punishment is realistic but will not happen today. 

Just saw AEK got Martial. 

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9 hours ago, cosmicway said:

Citeh to be deducted 30 points today ?

the hearing lasts 10 weeks and the result will not be announced until early 2025

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7 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

That punishment is realistic but will not happen today. 

Just saw AEK got Martial. 

Google says Fofana 12 mil, Martial 10 mil.
But saw AEK on Monday - pain in the eye. 
This club is as follows: Every 10 years or so produce a miracle team, then run out of money, slide down.
Their best playe ever must have been Nikolaidis who also played for Atletico with Torres, before Torres moved to Liverpool.
Meanwhile Willian plays for Olympiakos Piraeus now !

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Ødegaard injury worse than feared: how long will the Arsenal player be out for and which games will he miss?

Mikel Arteta confirmed that the injury suffered by the Norwegian during the international break will keep him out of action for some time.

https://en.as.com/soccer/odegaard-injury-worse-than-feared-how-long-will-the-arsenal-player-be-out-for-and-which-games-will-he-miss-n/

Mikel Arteta has confirmed the worst fears regarding Martin Ødegaard, who picked up an ankle injury during the recent international break.

The Norway captain limped out of the UEFA Nations League group against Austria on 67 minutes. At first, it was thought that Ødegaard had suffered a sprain but tests have revealed more worrying damage as Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta confirmed today, ahead of tomorrow’s Champions League opener against Atalanta.

Arsenal without their captain for two months

“The latest scans showed that he has some damage, especially in one of the ankle ligaments. It is quite significant. We will lose Martin Ødegaard for a while,” Arteta told reporters. It means that, the Gunners will be without their captain for the next two months of competition. Ødegaard is not expected to be back on the pitch until November, following the final international break of the year.

The games that Martin Ødegaard will miss

Premier League

• 22 Sept Manchester City (A)
• 28 Sept Leicester City (H)
• 5 Oct Southampton (H)
• 19 Oct Bournemouth (A)
• 27 Oct Liverpool (H)
• 2 Nov Newcastle United (A)
• 10 Nov Chelsea (A)

Champions League 

• 19 Sept Atalanta (A)
• 1 Oct PSG (A)
• 22 Oct Shakhtar Donetsk (H)
• 6 Nov Inter Milan (A)

Arteta loses one of his key players for a sizable chunk of the campaign and with several key games coming up. Ødegaard will miss crucial games against the team’s principal Premier League rivals - starting with this weekend’s trip to City, the defending champions, as well as a tough, three-game run in which Arsenal must face Liverpool, Newcastle and Chelsea.

This season, Ødegaard started the first three league games of the campaign, completing the first two, against Wolves and Aston Villa. He was taken off in the Week 3 meeting with Brighton, replaced by Gabriel Martinelli on 74 minutes as a tactical switch.

He has not had enough time to get his stats up and running - in the three games he has played at club level and both of the international games with Norway (against Kazakhstan and Austria), he has registered no goals and no assists despite his teams being unbeaten in all five of those games.

 

 

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Anthony Taylor not given Premier League game after showing record number of yellow cards last weekend

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5773153/2024/09/17/anthony-taylor-referee-yellow-cards/

Anthony Taylor will not referee a Premier League fixture this weekend after issuing the most yellow cards in top-flight history during Chelsea’s clash against Bournemouth last Saturday.

Despite not being put on refereeing duties for any of the 10 matches in matchweek five, Taylor will be the fourth official for Ipswich Town’s trip to Southampton on Saturday and Brighton & Hove Albion’s match against Nottingham Forest on Sunday.

Professional Game Match Officials Limited (PGMOL), the body overseeing officiating in English football, clarified that no referee officiates every matchweek, as they rotate between refereeing, serving as fourth officials and handling video assistant referee (VAR) duties.

Last Saturday’s match between Bournemouth and Chelsea saw 14 players shown a yellow card at the Vitality Stadium, as well as head coaches Andoni Iraola and Enzo Maresca. Despite the flurry of cautions, no players were sent off. Six Bournemouth players received a yellow card, while eight from Chelsea were also booked.

Taylor was subjected to abuse online following the game with the Premier League now looking into particularly threatening messages and the PGMOL offering their support.

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Behold the Premier League's worst-behaved match ever: We recap all 14 bookings

A record number of 65 yellow cards were shown in the Premier League on matchweek four.

On Sunday, Australian referee Jarred Gillett issued seven yellow cards during the first half of the north London derby between Tottenham Hotspur and Arsenal, only booking one player after the break.

Taylor, meanwhile, was promoted to the Select Group panel of referees in 2010, allowing him to referee Premier League matches. The 45-year-old has also officiated major finals including the 2015 League Cup and the FA Cup in 2017 and 2020.

Taylor’s international career took off in 2013 when he became a FIFA-listed referee, enabling him to referee UEFA and FIFA matches, including the Super Cup in 2020 and the Nations League Final in 2021.

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