Roman wants Jose back?

[Term-X 7,891]

Jog on? Spade a spade? When was the last time we won a title before Jose reign? Yeah a cool 50 years! We are still benefiting from his foundations - 4 years later!

It's you're prerogative to say as you feel & the very same for every poster on here including me but when or if I don't agree with some disrespectful posts I will make MY feelings known & if you are party to that then I want hold back with you either.

Oh & yes you are quite correct that it is 4 years since the great man 'jogged on' but how many of the current squad were pivotal in the double winning success of last season or the the FA cup winners from 2009 that were signed by Jose or got then playing to the best of their ability & you can include Cech in that, even though he didn't sign him but he promoted him ahead of Cudicini who was rated as one of the best goalkeepers in the Prem at the time.

Jose on!

:goodpost:

[GodZola 630]

Good post.

Cheers TX.

[GodZola 630]

lmao at you taking this personally when I didn't mention or quote you anywhere, which I would've had I been referring to you.

Trying to flame an argument I suppose.

Well tell me who you were referring too then as you're comments were in direct comparison to mine? If you can prove you' re comments were not directed at my first post I will gladly apologize.

Flame an argument ? Are you paranoid? I was responding to you're post with some facts regarding Jose's talent and how we still owe him for setting down some foundations nothing to do with starting a meaningless argument, get real man.

[Henrique 9,133]

Roman is the real special one.

[Madmax 9,219]

Well tell me who you were referring too then as you're comments were in direct comparison to mine? If you can prove you' re comments were not directed at my first post I will gladly apologize.

I was referring to the generally held notion (thus, not specifically you or anyone else) that club legends are immune from frank commentary and/or criticism because of who they are and what they've done for the club. Like I said, I would have quoted you had I been replying to your post specifically, it's a practice I follow precisely to avoid arguments like these.

Flame an argument ? Are you paranoid? I was responding to you're post with some facts regarding Jose's talent and how we still owe him for setting down some foundations nothing to do with starting a meaningless argument, get real man.

Of course we owe Mourinho a lot, as I acknowledged in my original post itself. But you became all aggressive and stuff, leading me to said conclusion. Also, you mentioned people disrespecting Mourinho or his work in that earlier post. I have never done that, in case you thought I was part of that group.

[GodZola 630]

Roman is the real special one.

We owe Roman for our recent success without question but it still needed the right person to buy the right talent, motivate them & make them winners - which he did in his first season & to go 3 years with us unbeaten at home is also a record that will never be matched, that was some achievement that has also gone unnoticed.

[Kez 2,727]

I think there are to many on here that suffer from amnesia or have selective memorys?

I didn't any see negative comments last season when Jose's Inter knocked out Barca last season, infact he was heralded as a tactical genius because of it, yet now he employs the same tactics against arguably the best footballing side ever he gets slated! The last time he went toe to toe with Barca they got thumped 5 nil, so he is hardly going to throw the kitchen sink at them ffs! That said Barca antics are atrocious & embarrassing to watch.

I find it annoying when when posters on here are throwing negative comments about a manager that brought us our first title, then back to back titles & finished off with a cup double in final season & if it wasn't for an horrendous injury list that season including injuries to the best keeper in the world at the time & the best back up keeper then we may well of won a treble! We weren't always boring to watch either, we played some great stuff at times but when Robben, Duff & Joey Cole were injured Jose had to revert to a different formation that WAS successful, the negative was that Jose never let his sides go on to winning with a bigger margin & that's one thing that I can applaud Ancelotti for doing.

I've been a Chelsea fan for twice as long as some have been born on here & had to go through many seasons of heartache, so when a manager comes along like Mourinho & brings you a Prem title that you never thought would happen in your lifetime you become attached to him, he may never be our manager again & possibly is part of our history but the guys a winner & should command nothing but respect from every Chelsea fan for his achievements & trophies that he brought to our club, sometimes people are far too ignorant & cannot see the wood for the trees!

Rant over!

:goodpost: Spot on lad!!!

[Madmax 9,219]

Roman is the real special one.

:goodpost::goodpost::goodpost:

[GodZola 630]

I was referring to the generally held notion (thus, not specifically you or anyone else) that club legends are immune from frank commentary and/or criticism because of who they are and what they've done for the club. Like I said, I would have quoted you had I been replying to your post specifically, it's a practice I follow precisely to avoid arguments like these.

Really, when I use the words 'TROPHIES' & I also state that the man deserved recognition for his achievements by every Chelsea fan & you respond directly afterwards quoting you can call 'a spade a spade 4 years on' & you also use the word Trophies then I cannot see that you're post wasn't directed at me despite you not quoting it? You may well have posted it generally but you' re comments are pointing at my post - without question.

Of course we owe Mourinho a lot, as I acknowledged in my original post itself. But you became all aggressive and stuff, leading me to said conclusion. Also, you mentioned people disrespecting Mourinho or his work in that earlier post. I have never done that, in case you thought I was part of that group.

I havnt read all the post on this thread so I will apologize for being ignorant in that respect, my original post was directed at some of the post above mine & others that I have read on other threads. Lastly you say that I 'became aggressive' but you use phrases like 'jog on' I think you should look at you own scribbing before making accusations about others.

[Madmax 9,219]

I havnt read all the post on this thread so I will apologize for being ignorant in that respect, my original post was directed at some of the post above mine & others that I have read on other threads. Lastly you say that I 'became aggressive' but you use phrases like 'jog on' I think you should look at you own scribbing before making accusations about others.

'Jog on' to me means 'Give me a break'. If it has some offensive connotation where you come from, I assure you I was unaware.

[Kez 2,727]

'Jog on' to me means 'Give me a break'. If it has some offensive connotation where you come from, I assure you I was unaware.

Jog on : An insult, meaning 'fuck off'

[Madmax 9,219]

@Kez : Like I said, I was unaware. Apologies to GodZola then for that phrase, though I wasn't aware of it's meaning. I stand by whatever else I've said.

[Term-X 7,891]

Roman is the real special one.

Yea, his tactical mastery won us back to back league titles under that portuguese guy, or whatever his name was.

"If Roman Abramovich helped me out in training we would be bottom of the league, and if I had to work in his world of big business, we would be bankrupt"

- Jose' Mourinho

[GodZola 630]

Made me chuckle kez, that was right out of my book!

[DYC. 7,542]

Yea, his tactical mastery won us back to back league titles under that portuguese guy, or whatever his name was.

"If Roman Abramovich helped me out in training we would be bottom of the league, and if I had to work in his world of big business, we would be bankrupt"

- Jose' Mourinho

Mourinho's tactical mastery would mean nothing without Roman's millions.

And not trying to take any credit away from Mourinho but let us please not act as if Mourinho was the only one who could lead us to succes, especially since the only serious challengers for the title were a average Man Utd side and Arsene's new project.

[GodZola 630]

Mourinho's tactical mastery would mean nothing without Roman's millions.

And not trying to take any credit away from Mourinho but let us please not act as if Mourinho was the only one who could lead us to succes, especially since the only serious challengers for the title were a average Man Utd side and Arsene's new project.

Uh incase you've forgotten Ranieri spent more in his only season with Roman in power than Jose did & failed. Arsene's new project? What the very same team that won the title the year before without losing a single game. Agreed about Man U but how many records did we make that season, most points & least goals conceded were 2 I can remember off the top of my head.

[DYC. 7,542]

Uh incase you've forgotten Ranieri spent more in his only season with Roman in power than Jose did & failed. Arsene's new project? What the very same team that won the title the year before without losinga game. Agreed about Man U but hoe many records to we make that season, molst points,

You sure about Rainieri spending more than Mourinho did in his three years (and a few months) at Chelsea? And I wouldn't call finishing 2nd in the league behind the Invincibles and reaching the semi-finals of the CL failing.

I was wrong about Arsenal in the 2004/2005 season but they did start to decline, especially from 2005/2006 going, and that's when the new project started.

And I didn't say everybody could've led us to succes but Mourinho not being the only one (ignoring records and such because nobody would mind a championship without breaking a single record). And I'll say it again, not trying to take anything away from Mourinho's achievements.

[Term-X 7,891]

Mourinho's tactical mastery would mean nothing without Roman's millions.

That goes without saying though.

[GodZola 630]

You sure about Rainieri spending more than Mourinho did in his three years (and a few months) at Chelsea? And I wouldn't call finishing 2nd in the league behind the Invincibles and reaching the semi-finals of the CL failing.

I was wrong about Arsenal in the 2004/2005 season but they did start to decline, especially from 2005/2006 going, and that's when the new project started.

And I didn't say everybody could've led us to succes but Mourinho not being the only one (ignoring records and such because nobody would mind a championship without breaking a single record). And I'll say it again, not trying to take anything away from Mourinho's achievements.

Yep, Ranieri spent approximately 120m compared to Mourinho's 80m'ish in their first season under Roman. Sorry fella but finishing 2nd after spending 120m is a failure in my book & when you compare it to Jose's first season of winning the Prem & league cup, & getting knocked out in the semi-finals of the CL to a goal that never was then there's a huge difference, although Ranieri signed the likes of Makelele so he has to be given credit but Jose was the one who made it happen not Roman, nor Ranieri.

[erinblue 24]

:goodpost: Spot on lad!!!

haven't been on for a few days---haven't read over many comments----but this i agree with------in a way would love to see him back...in another his time has gone (this may sound contradictory---but i have consumed a few)...too much controversy, yet i defend him like fcuk in all arguments----the world is against his teams..esp bara/platina/eufa cos he confronts controvesry (sp) straight on, he will not let the dominant team/manager win on record/support alone....barca say what they want---there players do so esp on the field, ??? every decision against them they fcukn surround/hound the ref,,,,,,respect my arse---utd also ?? decisions and there manager is the most outspoken against ref's but still nothing of significance happens (don't take me back to the days of keane etc---guided by their manager at that time no doubt)...........i said it last time it could occur and i said it immediately i heard the draw, this is exactly what platini/eufa wanted---barca/utd final.....jose upset the apple cart last year..././......i know everyone wants fancy footballl...but winning is the real objective---jose is a master of that....in ten ears time will the records show it was inter that won but they played shit or barca that lost playing majestic football----------bring back the winner i say........how many records did we set under him yet old blue nose had a free run for years and set very few..................can i just say that i'm not in the favour of getting rid of carlo ...but if he's going i'd like jose back or else his prev companion---the porto manager...boaz...or is he just lucky that that comp is shit---even scumpool got to the 1/4's.