chrismada9 1,948 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 With Torres starting to score goals and with Drogba in top-form, Drogba-Torres is the how it should be. I expect both of them to score, and perform brilliantly together.No doubt in my mind it could work, and I'm not saying that it won't work! However, time is needed! The last time Drogba and Torres worked in the same team, it felt like one was invading the other's space, and they couldn't form well as a unit. Torres enjoys a lot of space in attack so that he can get into positions to score, as well as a good midfield service. However, if some of that space is invaded by a player like Drogba, it's not as easy for Torres. Of course I want to see Drogba and Torres in the same team together, don't get me wrong, but something like takes time to develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Getting from Carlo's press conference that he's leaning toward Drogba and Torres together. I have very mixed feelings about this. Would love for it to work but don't see it working. Maybe Carlo sees something the rest of us don't.Oh dear..Why change a good thing, 4-4-2 sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodojojo 510 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Of course, he trains with them and we don't. Carlo is not dumb enough to start with Kalou instead of Torres or Drogba against Tottenham. With Torres starting to score goals and with Drogba in top-form, Drogba-Torres is the how it should be. I expect both of them to score, and perform brilliantly together.Ideally it would but then again, ideally Chelsea would be in the CL semifinals and leading the league by 10 points.Problem with playing Torres and Drogba together is that they both want to be the main central striker. People keep pointing to Anelka and Drogba as a great example. Except Anelka is willing to play the second striker role, drop deep etc. Torres won't do it and he shouldn't because that would be wasting what he does best, finishing in and around the box. I really don't understand it when I see formations with Torres playing on the right or left of a 4-3-3. Why would you do that? You're zeroing out the comparative advantage of having Fernando Torres.Ideally, DD-FT would work if DD is willing to play wide and drop back to gather the ball and even help the midfield. This would also free up space for FT up front . But have we actually seen this happen during the time they've been on the pitch together? They barely even look like they're on the same team. DD is the better all-around player and he would be more suited to the SS role than FT. But ultimately, it may be that there are two top central strikers and neither of them should be shoe-horned into playing a role that doesn't get the best out of them or the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortilla9 390 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 No doubt in my mind it could work, and I'm not saying that it <i>won't</i> work! However, time is needed! The last time Drogba and Torres worked in the same team, it felt like one was invading the other's space, and they couldn't form well as a unit. Torres enjoys a lot of space in attack so that he can get into positions to score, as well as a good midfield service. However, if some of that space is invaded by a player like Drogba, it's not as easy for Torres. Of course I want to see Drogba and Torres in the same team together, don't get me wrong, but something like takes time to develop.Maybe Carlo took the two aside and said "You are both fantastic players, we have a change to catch Manchester United, we ARE going to make this work, don't F this up by refusing to play with each other or I'll kick both your asses". Or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Myabe the premise of playing them together in a 442 is just a way to make Redknapp alter his plans. It'd be moronic to change from 433. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodojojo 510 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Myabe the premise of playing them together in a 442 is just a way to make Redknapp alter his plans. It'd be moronic to change from 433.I brought this up earlier in the thread. I wouldn't be surprised if it's 4-3-3 with Drogba on Saturday. Or maybe Carlo's playing chess two steps ahead--he floats the idea, knows Rednapp thinks he's bluffing, who will set up to defend 4-3-3 against Drogba and voila, Ancelotti springs Drogba and Torres on Spurs!Oh who am I kidding, Rednapp doesn't do tactics. He'll throw whatever team is on form out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo 1,729 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 A 4-3-3 formation will not bring out the best out of both strikers but if it's a sacrifice we have to make than so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodZola 630 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 If we have any hope of winning the Prem then this is a must win game whatever formation & team Ancelotti selects. An emphatic victory would put some real pressure on Man U but a narrow win would suffice. Arsenal now have no pressure on them & that could work in our favour, well let's hope so anyway. Spurs will come & have a go which will make for an entertaining game. We have to be careful as they have 2 fantastic wingers in Bale & Lennon who can cause problems on either flank but by the same token that's can be an area we can exploit as they will leave space for us to get behind them. Redknapp is shit scared of Drogba who must start with his current form, if Ramires is fit he has to play because he can provide cover for Ivanovich & has the engine & pace to get forward. We must also stop Modric who is quality, the likes of Essien or Mikel must be on the top of their game to stop the supply, Lampard must also put in a shift.Going to be tough & I cannot even begin to speculate who Ancelotti will pick for this game as he has some tough choices to make he may well go with a very attacking line up. Let's just hope he gets it right & we come away with the much needed 3 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.F. 1,484 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 4-3-3 is our best formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicrico 175 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I hope CA isn't stupid enough to go 4-4-2 after we start to get form back from 4-3-3, if he does, we will draw or lose this game. Just sit Torres out, keep same team. Simples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 Agreed.I think 4-4-2 will work for us in the future, but we need some out-and-out wingers á la Robben and Sanchez firstly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 Chelsea have a fully-fit squad, with Michael Essien, Ramires and Alex all available after injury.Manager Carlo Ancelotti has suggested he will pair Fernando Torres with Didier Drogba in attack. Tottenham defender Benoit Assou-Ekotto is sidelined by a hamstring problem, while Tom Huddlestone is likely to miss out because of an ankle injury. Ledley King has a slim chance of making his first appearance since October after recovering from a groin problem. From the BBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Lies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 It will be so easy to lay the blame on CA (if we don't win to be clear) if he changes the formation after a good run with the 4-3-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetsajCFC 1,255 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Win this and we will be in the CL next season whatever happens, plus the ego of course as it is a derby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 It will be so easy to lay the blame on CA if he changes the formation after a good run with the 4-3-3.Let's hope he doesn't give people an opportunity to blame him. Changing 433 would be a "d'oh!" moment of epic proportions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortilla9 390 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 It will be so easy to lay the blame on CA if he changes the formation after a good run with the 4-3-3.Or blame Torres. Or both, Carlo and Torres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Madmax 9,219 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 SPAMI'm not sure posting external links is allowed on this forum, we have our own in-house discussion topics and match reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Abramovich 175 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 SPAMThree points is the major thing.I doubt Arsenal can make up 6 GD in four games and if things were to go the way we need them to for GD to even matter United would lose GD against Arsenal and if we beat them, anything we beat them by is doubled in terms of net GD because we gain one and they lose one. If things go the way we need them to the only thing we need to worry about in terms of GD is United running up the score against Blackpool.Also Arsenal are on craptastic form whilst we look to be hitting form. Anyway I think the race is over, I'm not counting on Arsenal to get a result against United, I'd rely more on Blackburn or Blackpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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