Selling list

[Badboy 1,526]

Nobody is scared. If you'd read through the posts on the earlier page and some of the other posts elsewhere, you'd seen several people advocating a truncated role for him from next season onwards.

No we don't need Lampard in a ''truncated role'' we need to get completely rid of him from the team all together. Giggs and Scholes are different the man utd way has been in full swing for decades under Fergie they will slot in any generation. We need a massive over hall next season and Torres needs someone behind him for 90 mins who is going to create chances for him, Lampard does not do that he wants to score him self.

[spuz 143]

Manager needs to go first off.

Before any players.

[Badboy 1,526]

Lampard can not play with a fast striker like Torres or Sturridge like Giggs and scholes can. Lampard needs a target man !

[Madmax 9,219]

Not gonna happen. Squad role - yes, sell him - no. Not next season anyway.

[Peace. 4,352]

The players we should get rid of no matter what :

- Anelka : Everything comes to an end. This is the end for him. I bet even him want to go somewhere else.

- Malouda : I would be happy if he had stayed a bit longer, but since november he has shown that he is no longer up for the team.

- Bosingwa : Can't defend, can't cross. Even Paolo is better than him.

- Hilario : Waste of space. Promote a GK from the reserve.

The players we should allow to leave us, if....

- Kalou : I'd keep him, he could be a good squad player. But if he wants to go because he doesn't want to sit on the bench, then let him go.

- Alex : If he's okay to stay on the bench, then I'd keep him one more year. If he doesn't want, which I could fully understand, allow him to leave.

- Zhirkov : Read Kalou -

- Ferreira : I can leave if we get a new RB.

- Drogba : I'd rather him staying. But if he wants to go back to Marseille, then okay. He has done great things for this club, and you could see he still has commitment for Chelsea (ie last night), hence we should respect his decision.

Extra :

- Lampard : he's finished, he can't play every games. He just should play a bit every now and then. But we can't sell him.

[BLionheart 516]

Sell:

1. Anelka
2. Malouda
3. Kalou
4. ferrera
5. hilario
6. Drogba (i know he is coming back to his former self , but there is no place for both Drogba and torres and we all know torres is not leaving.)
7. Zhirkov

Buy:

1. Alexis Sanchez ( must be our no.1 priority , i 'd pay up to 50 millions for him)
2. Hamsik (everyone is missing lampards goals , here is a ready replacement for goals within midfield but hamsik will provide more creativity and less defensive cover)
3. aguero or neymar .

others:

• i know lamps is not having a good season , but he has never been the super frank since carlo came in . i know he scored a lot of goals last season but he is not having the same impact on our game . i remember having a very bad season last year and if it wasn't for his goals everyone would have been criticizing his game . lamps will be back when carlo fuck off.
• Lamps should be used alongside another creative midfielder infront of essien , also there should be a lot of rotation between essien , mikel , ramires , lamps and a new creative CM (hamsik)
• Bosingwa is not a good RB specially for big games but he is a decent back up to have , at least better than ferrera .
• i used to love kakuta , he was my favorite young player last year , but he has proved he is still miles away from being the player we want , the only youth who deserve a chance are McEacheran and Sturridge .

tbh i don' think we are gonna buy 3 world-class players in the summer , we will have to pay around 100 millions for those players and roman won't be up for it . but i hope we will get at least sanchez and another one of those .

Edited April 13, 2011 by BLionheart

[LDN Blue 7,903]

I swear we had a similar thread to this before? 2011/12 Squad or something like that.

It's all good talking about who we should sell, the most important aspect is, who would the board replace them with? Personally I don't want to see us spending over £20million per player for all the vacant positions we'd have. Which is why it's going to be a real scrappy transfer summer we're going to experience. No doubt we're looking at the midfield for reinforcement now, Ramires has been key, but we need a playmaker. The board has to recognise this now! We've got an abundance of talent in attack; Torres, Drogba, Sturridge, Borini (for now). The problem is that good ol' supply.

In defence we're sorted. A back up right back to Ivanovic? Billy Clifford. He's shown great progress this season and if a team like Liverpool can hand a debut to an 18 year old right back against Man City, surely we can take a calculated risk using Billy Clifford as back up to Ivanovic, who's not injury prone. In central defence we have Luiz, Alex, Terry & Bruma who will return. Left back? Cole, Van Aanholt, Bertrand & even Zhirkov.

So who do we sell/release? Malouda, Zhirkov & Kalou. What type of player do we replace them with? A left sided player x2 & A playmaker x2. With 4-3-2-1 (which I'm a fan of) Ramires on the right is fine. Essien in the anchor role will do, even though we all cry for Mikel. So we need a pure left sided player who can dribble, cross & has a vision for a killer pass, and 2 playmakers is key to play behind Torres.

[cfc-meleady 192]

Kalou

Bosingwa

Turnbull / Hilario (Only if we get a replacement)

Malouda

People need to stop saying we need to sell players cause they're too good for our bench, we need dept in the squad if we're going to win anything.

[TomCFC 357]

Anelka, Malouda, Bosingwa, Hilario, Kalou, Ferreira, Drogba and Zhirkov.

It'll be sad to see Drogba go, especially as he's coming back to form, but I think it's the best way for Torres - as well as Sturridge - to progress.

[EskWeston 696]

For me the players we should look to move on are:

Hilario

Ferreira

Malouda

Anelka

However i also think for different reasons that we could see Kalou and Zhirkov move on in the summer.

For me a right back, a creative playmaker and 2 wingers is what we NEED to take us on to the next level.

[Styles 9,790]

The players we should allow to leave us, if....

- Kalou : I'd keep him, he could be a good squad player. But if he wants to go because he doesn't want to sit on the bench, then let him go.

Well this just isn't true is it? You saw that last night in black and white. He came on and embarrassed himself. Good squad player my arse.

[HRiver 1,512]

How on earth could I forget Bosingwa on my first post?!

I suppose I was too shocked from the defeat and I couldn't think properly, even though in my mind he has always been top of that list. Post edited now.

As for Lampard, the club can't sell him, I would be shocked if it happened. Just a few months before we were all hoping he would finish his footballing career with Chelsea, now suddenly everyone is against him? Don't be too harsh on Frank. This has no doubt been his worst season over the last few years, but nobody is perfect. Carlo should rest Lamps for a game or two, let him return to his old form gradually. Lampard is a Chelsea legend, legends can't be sold, it's as simple as that.

[chrismada9 1,948]

At the beginning, I believed that selling Bosingwa would be a bad idea... I'm now beginning to believe we do need to sell him.

Why Alex?

Because Alex s argueably behind David Luiz and Ivanovic in the pecking order, with JT a guaranteed starter, and if we sell Bosingwa and bring in another right back (i.e. van der Wiel) then I don't see Alex starting very much, and a player like him deserves to be playing regularly.

I wouldn't agree with the sale, but I can understand the reasons why we would have to sell him.

[steve5221 91]

ANELKA - that prick could not care less about Chelsea - have you noticed when he is subbed he never even jogs off always walks......

[dodojojo 510]

Drogba's situation is just like Hasselbaink in 2004.

He still has the ability, but the club must sell him in order to build the new team

Nothing against Drogba's quality and his contribution to Chelsea's recent successes, but essentially this is it. The cycle of Drogba and Lampard is coming to a close and it's better to err on the side of remolding the team one year too early rather than one year too late. Ideally they would stay and take on Giggs/Scholes roles but do you see that happening?

If Chelsea starts the next season with Torres and Drogba still vying to be the starting center forward, it's going to be the same story. One of them is going to be playing a system not suited to them. You'll have a team in the state of football philosophy flux and the result is a middling product--like this season, 3/4 place and final 8 in the CL. Good for most clubs but good enough for Roman Abramovich's billions?

Maybe Torres isn't the answer, but it's less about rebuilding around him and more about clinging onto players well into their 30's. It's not like Drogba and Lampard just turned 30 either. They'll turn 34 next season. Still can play of course, but the club's blueprint should no longer revolve around them.

[Peace. 4,352]

Well this just isn't true is it? You saw that last night in black and white. He came on and embarrassed himself. Good squad player my arse.

Lol ! By 'squad player' I didn't meant the guy who comes off the bench against the likes of ManUtd to change the score or stuff, I meant the guy who is there to play against the likes of Wigan in the Cup to give the other strikers a rest.

[Styles 9,790]

Lol ! By 'squad player' I didn't meant the guy who comes off the bench against the likes of ManUtd to change the score or stuff, I meant the guy who is there to play against the likes of Wigan in the Cup to give the other strikers a rest.

But that doesn't make any sense. Surely you would want to give those minutes to development strikers like Sturridge or Borini. Why do we need a 25 year old waste who is never going to improve those precious minutes? Do you see what Sturridge is doing? Do you honestly think Kalou can go on loan to another Premier League club and have the impact Sturridge is? Bolton would laugh at him and send him back to us within a few hours. He has nothing to offer them let alone a club like ours that has ambition of being amongst the best.

Let me ask you a question and be honest. Do you think Kalou would even make the Utd bench? He wouldn't get near it. That tells you everything you need to know.

[Peace. 4,352]

But that doesn't make any sense. Surely you would want to give those minutes to development strikers like Sturridge or Borini. Why do we need a 25 year old waste who is never going to improve those precious minutes? Do you see what Sturridge is doing? Do you honestly think Kalou can go on loan to another Premier League club and have the impact Sturridge is? Bolton would laugh at him and send him back to us within a few hours. He has nothing to offer them let alone a club like ours that has ambition of being amongst the best.

Let me ask you a question and be honest. Do you think Kalou would even make the Utd bench? He wouldn't get near it. That tells you everything you need to know.

Yeah that's for sure. He would just play with their reserve.

But I mean, he would be under the young players in the pecking order. He would have a role a la Gibson of ManUtd.

And we have a really tiny squad, so I think we can't get ride of too many players.

[Chelsea_Fan 227]

Hilario

Ferreira

Malouda

Anelka

Mikel

Bosingwa

Kalou

Zhirkow

Alex

May be Drogba

[nadavTKL 1,787]

No we don't need Lampard in a ''truncated role'' we need to get completely rid of him from the team all together. Giggs and Scholes are different the man utd way has been in full swing for decades under Fergie they will slot in any generation. We need a massive over hall next season and Torres needs someone behind him for 90 mins who is going to create chances for him, Lampard does not do that he wants to score him self.

I almost can't belive im reading this. Just a tiny little note for you all- Lampard got back from a bad injury, his first bad injury for years now,

just 4 months ago. Secondly, i dont know if you are aware that a midfielder, good and dominant has he can be, cannot do his best for

the team when he does not have the help from other players, players that played well when he was SUPER FRANK.

Just look at Malouda and Anelka, remember their play last season? look how they are playing now.

when they are playing like that, and Torres is our 'not in form' striker, what do you expect from lampard? (and after this injury..)

All the eyes are on him, everything needs to go through him, and he doesent have the help, Lamps NEVER been a player

that can carry his team on his shoulders all by imself and score a lot of goals and pass for another easy assist. He isnt Messi or Ronaldo.

Do you think its just a coincidence that he is more dominant when Drogba is in? drog is our only attacking player that in sort of form.

Why do you think that Giggs can do this great great moves and passes? because Man u game is going through Nani, Park, Rooney,

and then Giggs has his space, what space does Lampard have? where he could got this space from? Malouda's dribbling skills?

Lampard cant rest for a second when everybody playing like they played this season.

Lampard always needed the quality players around him and Chelsea didnt have them this season when he came from is injury.

When he got back it was all broken. Last year Lamps was amazing, 27 goals and 22 assists,

because Malouda was there, Drog was there(not on the bench for torres), Anelka most of the time was there...

When they are not there, What do you expect from him? when did he ever been good when everybody played shit arond him?

how many midfielders can do that? no one.come on. so come on, i agree that he can use some rest from time to time in the future,

but to rid of him? bench him? i dont think so. An Alexis Sanchez type of player near him next season, and he will do alot better.