Wayne Rooney

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One thing is certain.... We buy Rooney, United get Lewandowski. PSG buy Rooney, United get Lewandowski. With all the wages thing, I think we should just push for Lewandowski instead.

I still think Lewandowski is nailed-on for Bayern. Sure they're talking tough now but there's two months before the season starts and he's just got to sit tight and he'll be wearing red before long. Dortmund aren't going to lose him next summer for nothing so he has all the power.

[ChelseaChelsea68 53]

Hope we don't sign Rooney.

He is a good player never has he been World Class, that is only in the eyes of the media who are alway bigging up English player.

I think the last truly world Class English footballer was Gazza.

Think we need to de-scouse the club. CFC rule 1 NO Scousers from now on.!!

[lucio 5,418]

Hope we don't sign Rooney.

He is a good player never has he been World Class, that is only in the eyes of the media who are alway bigging up English player.

I think the last truly world Class English footballer was Gazza.

Think we need to de-scouse the club. CFC rule 1 NO Scousers from now on.!!

surely lampard was truly world class. he came 2nd on balon d'or

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Hope we don't sign Rooney.

He is a good player never has he been World Class, that is only in the eyes of the media who are alway bigging up English player.

I think the last truly world Class English footballer was Gazza.

Think we need to de-scouse the club. CFC rule 1 NO Scousers from now on.!!

So you're saying that he's never been one of the best players of the world? Not even in 2010 when he was probably the best player in England?

Again, you blame the media but there's something pernicious in this country that likes to shit on people who are successful. People see a nice car in most countries and they think well done - in this country we turn our noses up at them or key it.

But yeah, he's a scouser so it's all okay.

[Mr_President 404]

Can't see us having both him and Torres on the books, whilst also trying to give Lukaku experience.. we also have Ba. If we can offload Torres then I think Rooney and Lukaku with Ba as backup is a pretty good strike force, and rooney can also drop deeper to a no.10 if we suffer loads of injuries.

Think a lot of people are against him because of the perception that he is fat, lazy, granny shagger etc.. + he is a tick scouser which doesn't really help, but he is a cracking CF, of that there is no doubt.

[Beirut_Blues 306]

naaa i'd be prefer we don't sign him...

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Like I said before, I'd love Rooney here. I'm a big fan of his, especially when he plays in the n10 role. His work-rate is unbelievable and his defending and tracking back is probably the best I've ever seen by an attacker. I always say when United play with Rooney just behind another striker, they play with 12 men. He's the equivalent of a midfielder and attacker at the same time.

That said, I very very much doubt we'll see him in a Chelsea shirt. First, United are not Arsenal, they are smarter than selling a world class player to a rival. Second his wages are just ridiculous (was it 250k/wk?!!) and with so many high earners already here, the board will probably be very reluctant to sign him.

[jmarlow 458]

Hope we don't sign Rooney.

He is a good player never has he been World Class, that is only in the eyes of the media who are alway bigging up English player.

I think the last truly world Class English footballer was Gazza.

Think we need to de-scouse the club. CFC rule 1 NO Scousers from now on.!!

Terry, Lampard and Ashley Cole have all been world class! it shouldn't even really be up for debate!

[jmarlow 458]

Like I said before, I'd love Rooney here. I'm a big fan of his, especially when he plays in the n10 role. His work-rate is unbelievable and his defending and tracking back is probably the best I've ever seen by an attacker. I always say when United play with Rooney just behind another striker, they play with 12 men. He's the equivalent of a midfielder and attacker at the same time.

That said, I very very much doubt we'll see him in a Chelsea shirt. First, United are not Arsenal, they are smarter than selling a world class player to a rival. Second his wages are just ridiculous (was it 250k/wk?!!) and with so many high earners already here, the board will probably be very reluctant to sign him.

your getting a bit too carried away there, i have never seen anything special about his work-rate, there are plenty of players around Europe past and present who work just hard or even harder than Rooney, his work-rate is overrated imo, just like most of his other attributes.

and also Rooney isn't a world class player! not even close.

[Reddish-Blue 2,321]

United won't sell him to Chelsea because they're not going to strengthen a rival club

I think it's pretty simple with Rooney...either PSG buy him or he stays at United.

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and also Rooney isn't a world class player! not even close.

People have different criteria for being world class, but saying he isn't even close is fucking ridiculous in my opinion. I'd say he was certainly a worldie back in 2010 and I don't think it's inconceivable that he couldn't recapture that form in the right team and with the right motivation.

[Hutcho 8,443]

I'd have him. Another english player as we are short at the moment. High work rate, still talented and shouldn't cost the earth.

[ulsterchelsea 3,221]

People have different criteria for being world class, but saying he isn't even close is fucking ridiculous in my opinion. I'd say he was certainly a worldie back in 2010 and I don't think it's inconceivable that he couldn't recapture that form in the right team and with the right motivation.

yep, agree 100%. Also to say that roo doesnt have a phenomenal work rate would suggest people dont watch him a lot. Always been my major plus point about him ( and ironically one of fergies peeves) is that if he loses the ball he will chase you all over the pitch to get it back, he will also harass keepers which is something we rarely do here. Happily take him here

[ulsterchelsea 3,221]

People have different criteria for being world class, but saying he isn't even close is fucking ridiculous in my opinion. I'd say he was certainly a worldie back in 2010 and I don't think it's inconceivable that he couldn't recapture that form in the right team and with the right motivation.

yep, agree 100%. Also to say that roo doesnt have a phenomenal work rate would suggest people dont watch him a lot. Always been my major plus point about him ( and ironically one of fergies peeves) is that if he loses the ball he will chase you all over the pitch to get it back, he will also harass keepers which is something we rarely do here. Happily take him here

[ulsterchelsea 3,221]

People have different criteria for being world class, but saying he isn't even close is fucking ridiculous in my opinion. I'd say he was certainly a worldie back in 2010 and I don't think it's inconceivable that he couldn't recapture that form in the right team and with the right motivation.

yep, agree 100%. Also to say that roo doesnt have a phenomenal work rate would suggest people dont watch him a lot. Always been my major plus point about him ( and ironically one of fergies peeves) is that if he loses the ball he will chase you all over the pitch to get it back, he will also harass keepers which is something we rarely do here. Happily take him here

[jmarlow 458]

People have different criteria for being world class, but saying he isn't even close is fucking ridiculous in my opinion. I'd say he was certainly a worldie back in 2010 and I don't think it's inconceivable that he couldn't recapture that form in the right team and with the right motivation.

that's true everyone does have different criteria to judge if a player is world class and for me to be truly world class you have to be one of the very best players in your position. I agree Rooney was at that level in 2010 but its 2013 now and Rooney hasn't shown that form consistently in the last 3 years!

Strikers/Freak Goalscorers better than Rooney

Messi

Ronaldo

Cavani

Lewandowski

Falcao

RVP

Ibrahimovic

Suarez

Aguero

Creative Midfielders better than Rooney

Mata

Ozil

Hazard

Iniesta

Gotze

Silva

Bale

Modric

Cazorla

Ribery

Robben

Muller

Reus

Other players up for debate

Oscar

Isco

KdB

Benzema

Higuian

Lavezzi

Fabregas

Hamsik

Neymar

Kiessling

Manduzkic

Lucas

Kroos

El Shaaraway

Gomez

That is why i say Rooney isnt even close! you may think i am being harsh or biased because he plays for united but that is my opinion, i would have any of the players in the first two lists over Rooney anyday!

[CHOULO19 24,332]

your getting a bit too carried away there, i have never seen anything special about his work-rate, there are plenty of players around Europe past and present who work just hard or even harder than Rooney, his work-rate is overrated imo, just like most of his other attributes.

and also Rooney isn't a world class player! not even close.

Well I disagree. Rooney always tracks back even to the edge of his own penalty area whenever his team does not have the ball. He also defends extremely well for an attacker. I don't think any attacker does that except may be Cavani at times.

Well what are your criteria for being world class? I say he is world class because he has excellent technical ability in his passing, shooting...etc. Tactically he's great. In fact, I'd say that he's been united's most important tactical player for years, now. Physically he's good as well: he has good pace and power. As an attacker, his movement is excellent and his finishing very clinical as evident by his goal-scoring record even though he's been often played in midfield in the past 2-3 seasons.

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I agree Rooney was at that level in 2010 but its 2013 now and Rooney hasn't shown that form consistently in the last 3 years!

So Rooney was at that level in 2010 when he scored 34 goals in 44 games.....

but he wasn't at that level in 2012 when he scored 34 goals in 44 games.

In fact this season his stats were roughly on par with Aguero's despite playing in a deeper role (but Aguero had injury problems.....well so did Rooney).

As for the rest of the random names you've chucked in there (does 'up for debate' mean 'sound foreign so why not?').....really? Kiessling? Madzukic? Lucas (I'll guess you mean Moura and not Leiva, although I'm not sure).

Look, Rooney isn't the easiest player to love and it's not a transfer without risks, but the amount of shit he gets is unbelievable. I know it's not nice that a guy who is a bit thick and a bit rough earns millions of pounds but that's not a reason not to sign him. He's a fantastic talent who is woefully undervalued, underrated and overly-maligned by a certain type of English person. It's a shame his name is spelt Rooney and not Rooni.

Unfortunately United probably realise this which is why they won't sell him to us.