lionsden 4,689 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 When will people realise that this is not necessarily about result but the way we have achieved these unfavorable results Ancelotti would be 50 times more popular on here if our performance this season has reflected the quality of our squad and the club's ambition. if you play well, with gut,desire and determination and lose a match, only a cold blooded arsehole would criticize the manager after such a display as that demonstrates the ability to motivate and get the players firing on all cylinders.But when your team plays extremely badly and lose/draw, those two combination cannot be healthy for the fans. majority of our performance this season falls under the latter category which is totally unacceptable for a club like Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 When will people realise that this is not necessarily about result but the way we have achieved these unfavorable results Ancelotti would be 50 times more popular on here if our performance this season has reflected the quality of our squad and the club's ambition. if you play well, with gut,desire and determination and lose a match, only a cold blooded arsehole would criticize the manager after such a display as that demonstrates the ability to motivate and get the players firing on all cylinders.But when your team plays extremely badly and lose/draw, those two combination cannot be healthy for the fans. majority of our performance this season falls under the latter category which is totally unacceptable for a club like Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 This thread again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Chelsea has had its worst "bad spell" in years under carlotti with series of terrible/unforgivable performances to boot. if that's not a major cause for concern then I don't know what is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 This thread again.In one week it would be over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,537 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 In one week it would be over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Chelsea has had its worst "bad spell" in years under carlotti with series of terrible/unforgivable performances to boot. if that's not a major cause for concern then I don't know what isSo you expect him to show grit, drive, passion with a squad of 16+3 gks and youth over an entire season with key players like lampard who never gets injured out for 5 months and benayoun out for an entire season almost, add to that malaria to Drogba. Top it all by having his trusted assistant fired for reasons only gourlay knows.?You are demanding I must say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 In one week it would be over.Indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 So you expect him to show grit, drive, passion with a squad of 16+3 gks and youth over an entire season with key players like lampard who never gets injured out for 5 months and benayoun out for an entire season almost, add to that malaria to Drogba. Top it all by having his trusted assistant fired for reasons only gourlay knows.?You are demanding I must say.he has no idea ,,what Chelsea was like before Roman's money arrived Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 So you expect him to show grit, drive, passion with a squad of 16+3 gks and youth over an entire season with key players like lampard who never gets injured out for 5 months and benayoun out for an entire season almost, add to that malaria to Drogba. Top it all by having his trusted assistant fired for reasons only gourlay knows.?You are demanding I must say.I'm getting tired of repeating myself. once again injury to key players over the course of a season is inevitable in footie. no team can escape that. A sensible manager then must anticipate the worst and HAVE A MITIGATION PLAN in place to ensure this circumstances do not affect the team when it inevitably happens . that's common sense and i would expect even my 7 year old nephew to know these things let alone a 52 year old man with plenty of european experience. Lack of plan B is a sure road to failureInjury to Ferdinand,Valencia and Rooney's dressing room unrest didn't prevent man utd from clinching their 19th epl title and reaching the ucl final Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 he has no idea ,,what Chelsea was like before Roman's money arrived I know the situation of the club pre Roman as I have supported the club my whole life so relax on the assumption MR CHELSEA FC. btw I see no relationship between your assertion and the issue being discussed.lack of better insight to contribute I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Ferguson has complete control over all transfers there ,,,Has Carlo the same here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I know the situation of the club pre Roman as I have supported the club my whole life so relax on the assumption MR CHELSEA FC. btw I see no relationship between your assertion and the issue being discussed.lack of better insight to contribute I suppose.our fans werent as demanding then ..Probably we were much happier even though Ken was an idiot at times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetsajCFC 1,255 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Lionsden, we know you want CA to be sacked, great, but 71%+ of us don't so stop going on about the same facts/arguments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Let me drive this point home once again. It's a manager's responsibility to anticipate this type of unforeseen circumstances and plan ahead.Every sensible manager goes into a new season expecting injuries to key personnel and fluctuations in player's form along the way. how you are able to deal with these challenges is what separates the men from the boys. That's a weak excuse to defend the manager, I'm afraid.Okay so Carlo is in power of who gets injured and who doesn't?, no managers have expectations, but not when your full defence gets injured, and when your up to your last playmaker who has been moved from holding midfield, who then gets injured. And Drogba's maloria, Wilkins leaving Carlo's side, it didn't just effect Carlo it effected the player a lot. Wilkins speaks many languages and obviously is very close with the players, you can tell he misses them when he's commentating or sat with the reporter during halftime. Carlo didn't have power over any of that. The team has to take blame, Luiz and Ramires aren't very diciplined, but there young, and that's why, Mikel has because he's been with Chelsea for some time. For me the team just isn't on form, everything happened all at once in december which really screwed things up, it's been hard to recover, when Lampard and Essien were back on form after the Man United match, we went on and played brilliant, pretty much beat Blackpool 3-0, bosingwa mucking up badly cost us to concede, and then we beat City 2-0 and they hardly ever touched the ball. I never saw our midfield play so good this season in the CIty match, and Man U match (second half). It was very strong, typical that we had 2 weeks time off to get us out of form and then we struggled against Stoke. Really is a shame, but nevermind. Give Ancelotti a chance, there's no one who we can get better than him, Hiddink there not to sure about, Mourinho will never be back and Bas Boas is staying at Porto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace. 4,352 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Lionsden, we know you want CA to be sacked, great, but 71%+ of us don't so stop going on about the same facts/argumentsSo because he belongs to a "minority" he has to shut the hell up ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianfranco_Z 202 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 He... won us the... double? in his first year. Does this not mean anything now? Even if we did sack him (god forbid) who on earth would you replace him with? Villas-Boas, Hiddink and Mourinho look off the cards. Changing a manager every time we don't win something will turn us into the English version of Real Madrid.Keep Carlo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianfranco_Z 202 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 So because he belongs to a "minority" he has to shut the hell up ?Absolutely not, if we didn't have opposing views then this thread would be redundant. All views welcome for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetsajCFC 1,255 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 So because he belongs to a "minority" he has to shut the hell up ?Certainly not but he shouldnt go on about saying the same things. New and fresh arguments would be welcomed And the phrase 'shut the hell up' is a bit harsh, dont you think? We can express ourselves in a mannered way also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 So because he belongs to a "minority" he has to shut the hell up ?no but he should accept the majority have a right to express their opinions as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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