Official - Carlo sacked

[eldo 868]

Not the first time I've heard this rumour. Apparently NESV has approached him during Hodgson's tenure. Dalglish won't be around forever, I believe he himself is a fan of AVB, so you never know..

First of all he is a big Porto fan, and then Porto will play CL next season while LFC won't. I would understand if we were talking about Man City or similar teams. Anyway Porto is atm a better club than Liverpool, no matter how big their history is.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

First of all he is a big Porto fan, and then Porto will play CL next season while LFC won't. I would understand if we were talking about Man City or similar teams. Anyway Porto is atm a better club than Liverpool, no matter how big their history is.

Yeah that's true, but on the other side of that coin, maybe he'd see it as a welcomed challenge?

[SinineUltra 1,170]

Plus, there is no chance of Mourinho returning to Chelsea. He wont be sacked and Roman hates him.

The only good reason to keep Carlo is: lets he stay one more season, and wait until Guardiola contracts with Barça expire and then hire him.

Do you really think Guardiola is such a good coach? He has so much at his disposal that it would be insane to think that he couldnt succeed. If they didn't have Messi, they'd be half the prospect they are now. I dont consider him a good coach..

[Henrique 9,133]

Do you really think Guardiola is such a good coach? He has so much at his disposal that it would be insane to think that he couldnt succeed. If they didn't have Messi, they'd be half the prospect they are now. I dont consider him a good coach..

This argument is 100% bullshit. 100%.. The squad he has in hands is the same that had 2 miserable seasons before he was named head coach.

Plus, You can say the same about Mourinho: with all the players he had at Chelsea and all the money he had to spend it will be insane to think he couldnt win at least 2 Premier Leagues.

Despíte all the players Mourinho have he cant even fight for La Liga trophy. So, in Your arguments We can say that Mourinho is overrated.

[Guest justin_3d]

This argument is 100% bullshit. 100%.. The squad he has in hands is the same that had 2 miserable seasons before he was named head coach.

Plus, You can say the same about Mourinho: with all the players he had at Chelsea and all the money he had to spend it will be insane to think he couldnt win at least 2 Premier Leagues.

Despíte all the players Mourinho have he cant even fight for La Liga trophy. So, in Your arguments We can say that Mourinho is overrated.

So then here is another thing similar. Mancini did good in Italy with Inter...much better then Carlo Milan. But at City he has been mediocre....how do you explain that?

[DYC. 7,542]

So then here is another thing similar. Mancini did good in Italy with Inter...much better then Carlo Milan. But at City he has been mediocre....how do you explain that?

Mancini's squad was so much stronger than the rest, winning the title year after year was only normal. It's like with Lyon a few years back when they became champions seven years in a row.

But in the CL, Mancini's Inter was very poor and never managed to get past the second round of the competition.

(I'm purely trying to explain Mancini's situation in Italy)

I do think people are being unfair towards Guardiola. Yes he has a absolutely fantastic squad and yes that plays a huge part in his succes but like Henrique said, it was pretty much the same squad that went through a rough patch for two seasons.

You have to give the man credit for things like getting rid of the likes of Ronaldinho and Deco (though the Eto'o + money - Ibrahimovic swap was a huge mistake), spotting Busquets' talent very early when many criticized him for benching Touré, Valdes growing out into a fantastic goalkeeper under him after being average GK for years, giving Messi a new role as a false number 9 which helped him become an even better player than he already was and some more good/great decisions.

[Guest justin_3d]

Mancini's squad was so much stronger than the rest, winning the title year after year was only normal. It's like with Lyon a few years back when they became champions seven years in a row.

But in the CL, Mancini's Inter was very poor and never managed to get past the second round of the competition.

(I'm purely trying to explain Mancini's situation in Italy)

So then that makes Carlo a good manager, cause his squad was not stronger but did good in the CL???

[DYC. 7,542]

So then that makes Carlo a good manager, cause his squad was not stronger but did good in the CL???

Of course CA's a good manager but you can fault him for not winning more titles when he did have a great squad (the years before the 2007/2008 season) or in his time at Juventus.

And there's a difference in being a good manager and being the right manager. I don't neccissarily want him out but I do question whether he's the right manager for Chelsea.

[Guest justin_3d]

Of course CA is a good manager but you can fault him for not winning more titles when he did have a great squad (the years before the 2007/2008 season).

Like Guus when he was in charge of Real Madrid???

[DYC. 7,542]

Like Guus when he was in charge of Real Madrid???

What does he have to with anything?

[chrismada9 1,948]

This is Claudio Ranieri all over again

He knows he'll be sacked at the end of the season, in spite of the fact that they could finish at least in the top 3 in the PL this season.

I don't know, I have this distinct feeling at the back of my mind!

[Guest justin_3d]

What does he have to with anything?

Well you said Carlo was at fault for not winning anything with a good squad. So i am giving you example of great coaches that won nothing with great team as well.

Guus did bad in Spain and got sack at every position he was. Does that makes him a bad manager? No!

Carlo did good in one season with Chelsea, and one bad with Chelsea. Does that make him a bad manager? No.

So it is why i find it dumb to sack Carlo when he is a good manager. We all know we can't get Guus or Mourinho in the summer...and less likely go for Bielsa. It is futile to entertain the notion when these 3 who are better, are not available.

[Laylabelle 9,534]

The thing that doesnt help is if we just go around and sack managers after a bad season,wont exactly attract other to come and take over

[DYC. 7,542]

Well you said Carlo was at fault for not winning anything with a good squad. So i am giving you example of great coaches that won nothing with great team as well.

Guus did bad in Spain and got sack at every position he was. Does that makes him a bad manager? No!

Carlo did good in one season with Chelsea, and one bad with Chelsea. Does that make him a bad manager? No.

So it is why i find it dumb to sack Carlo when he is a good manager. We all know we can't get Guus or Mourinho in the summer...and less likely go for Bielsa. It is futile to entertain the notion when these 3 who are better, are not available.

First of all I said you can fault him for not winning more titles with the good squad he had.

And what's with all the 'does that make him a bad manager' talk? Where did I say CA was a bad manager (?), I even called him a good manager.

And you keep talking about Hiddink's period at Madrid but the man has been a coach for over twenty years yet you chose to ignore his successes and focus on his failures, that's unfair. There's not a single manager out there that only had succes.

Whether you find it dumb to sack CA is your opinion so allow people to have their own on this matter.

[chrismada9 1,948]

The thing that doesnt help is if we just go around and sack managers after a bad season,wont exactly attract other to come and take over

Yeah exactly, that's why I feel that sacking Ancelotti would be a bad idea. Remember what I said about Arsene Wenger, whom since 2005 has won nothing for Arsenal, yet the belief that he gets with Arsenal has kept him there for years, because he has total belief and respect for their fans.

[Krypt 241]

Yeah exactly, that's why I feel that sacking Ancelotti would be a bad idea. Remember what I said about Arsene Wenger, whom since 2005 has won nothing for Arsenal, yet the belief that he gets with Arsenal has kept him there for years, because he has total belief and respect for their fans.

Eventually we wont be able to get a top class manager because they wont have the time to build a good squad to play the football they want. we will turn into madrid at this rate.

[Term-X 7,891]

Great quote from Carlo..

"I stay at Chelsea next season," he said. "Unless the press sacks me..."

[Tomo 21,751]

This argument is 100% bullshit. 100%.. The squad he has in hands is the same that had 2 miserable seasons before he was named head coach.

Plus, You can say the same about Mourinho: with all the players he had at Chelsea and all the money he had to spend it will be insane to think he couldnt win at least 2 Premier Leagues.

Despíte all the players Mourinho have he cant even fight for La Liga trophy. So, in Your arguments We can say that Mourinho is overrated.

I think it just goes to show how good Barca are that Jose is struggling to top them.

Barca has 1 misrable year IMO they did well in 06/07 and would have won the league again if it was english rules but Guardiola still did well, although it will be intresting to see how he will do when that team starts ageing and he has to create his own team, thats where Wenger started to fail.

Could not disagree more about Jose yes he had money to spend but he still had to topple a Arsenal side that have just gone unbeaten, full of confidence and at the peak of their powers.

If you ever want proof Jose aint over-rated take a quick look at Inters games against Chelsea and Barcelona last season then have a quick look at the same team a year on against Schalke.

[Henrique 9,133]

So then here is another thing similar. Mancini did good in Italy with Inter...much better then Carlo Milan. But at City he has been mediocre....how do you explain that?

Mancini job in City is better than Calo's at Chelsea.

When Carlo arrived he found a squad that had already won 2 PL trophies, reached 1 CL final and got into 3 semi-finals. He didn't have to find a way to play thousand of good players. City was a mid table team, and now they are fighting for a CL place, and despite all the money spend on players, City dont have a squad as good as ours.

Dzego is a overrated striker, and so is Balotelli. They are not worth the money spent on them. Citys squad is in the same level Spurs squad is. Despite Tevez being good than the rest,

[Tomo 21,751]

Mancini job in City is better than Calo's at Chelsea.

Mancini has spent LOTS more at City than Carlo at Chelsea but still finds himself below.

They were 5th when he took over and they finished 5th that season.