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This was the big elephant in the room and noone mentioned it earlier. Agree with you guys. Only one who could oppose this is TermX but I'm sure he sees the need for this, otherwise he will be dividing the titles with bots. Potential new players want to win and the sooner the better, as it stands the new teams promoted to premier league will lose a season in terms of development and will go down - all of the other 5 teams have cemented themselves in the big game and it takes something special to change that. A change is needed, noone wants to be second best all the time and it does not come down to skill etc, it comes down to whoever had the luxury and time to get a head start.

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All great points. However, someone is always going to have a head start to some extent, or buy better players, use resources more intelligently etc. UpTheChels was in this league from the start and he remained competitive with me, I just happened to win the titles (we had teams of similar quality). Super Villains were not too far behind, when we started.

I've just logged in, we have 12 active managers (the earliest log-in being today and the latest being '06-06-2014'). So what are we saying?, start a fresh league with those 12 managers?

It would be a hassle to say the least, getting everyone to switch and start from scratch. I'm open to the idea though, we'd need a poll.

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I might be up for rejoining if were starting again. My last attempt to rejoin i lost motivation because i was so far behind the big team's it would have taken far to long to get my squad to a state were it could compete. I would have just kept yo yo ing for ages. When i first joined i compared my squad to the best few and i knew i would have been able to compete after a few season's, starting in league two and climing up (ie still winning while building my team) helped a lot.

On the other hand i could understand if term and the rest at the top would be skeptical, i would be aswel if i still had my fookers team (i had to quit due to going away for 10 weeks).
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All great points. However, someone is always going to have a head start to some extent, or buy better players, use resources more intelligently etc. UpTheChels was in this league from the start and he remained competitive with me, I just happened to win the titles (we had teams of similar quality). Super Villains were not too far behind, when we started.

I've just logged in, we have 12 active managers (the earliest log-in being today and the latest being '06-06-2014'). So what are we saying?, start a fresh league with those 12 managers?

It would be a hassle to say the least, getting everyone to switch and start from scratch. I'm open to the idea though, we'd need a poll.

What about this:

All points spot on. There is another solution, but obviously all those involved will have to agree. Not sure if this option is even still available but the admin of the league could in between seasons (I forgot what the actual term used in the game was) could bring the level of the teams in the league closer.

Basically, it's a just butting that the admin clicks on and it bridges the gaps between the teams. It strengthens the teams with the weak squads and strengthens the teams with the tough ones. The team with the best squad will remain so as will the team with the weakest squad, but the gap will just be smaller.

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Starting fresh would be the best idea still. We'd need ask around from those active managers, see what everyone thinks, so we get the idea of how to move forward. I'd say at the moment it's best to stick with one league formation, because there's too much of a risk that the second tier will drop off again and we'll be right at the start again.

At the moment the problem isn't only the big gap between the teams but also the fact that it's hard to recruit players. Before starting we'll need to advertise the idea, get 14-16-18 people and see how it goes. I'm sure couple of old players would fancy a return with this format, for example Tomo. Longer seasons would also mean more weekly revenues and more activity inbetween seasons, so it's invigorating on every level.

To answer the point Term-X made, then yes, there's always going to be a gap eventually, but atleast we'll get fresh start, active roster of players to rejuvenate the competition, I started 2011 and it's all been the same even before that. Because as it stands now, basically, the active players are killing the league, because they're too far ahead to make it interesting or "marketable" to new players.

I'll send active members a message on XpertEleven and direct them to this thread, so they can have a word in.

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I could do that, (don't recall seeing it as an option when starting this new season though). So next season we could start with those 12 active teams in one league and boost the new guys. We should add a poll to this thread with that as an option for sure.

I'm open to anything right now because I lost interest in this game a while ago, so why not.. nothing to lose. Having more than one division, does isolate new members from the 'banter' and social aspect, plus the points MetsajCFC made about longer seasons. One concern however, would be that the new managers in a 2nd season would have nothing to play for, with there being no relegation fight. And unless someone is going to become a V.I.P member, we won't have a Cup to pacify those guys either.

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So the season is just about to end, wouldn't mind any of the ideas suggested above,, if @MetsajCFC is right and the newly promoted teams will in all likelihood get relegated again, then i think you know where i stand. :D

If we started an all new league with 12 new teams and what not, then fine..whatever you guys decide i'm all in.

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I'm sorry I completely lost interest in my team. How's SuperVillains doing without a manager? Got deleted or did someone take over?

At the moment they are without a manager and are cruising in 4th position in the Championship. Team is worth a little over 27m.

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