La Liga Thread

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

Just remember, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Manchester United, Juventus, and AC Milan are the power houses, followed by Chelsea, Man city, etc, these are the teams that have opened up people to the leagues. In then end its all about football, some just care about madrid and barca in la liga but for good reason, but some people expand to teams like valencia, and atheltic bilbao.

There was a study that came out a month ago. Manchester United are the most popular team in the world followed by Barcelona, Madrid, Chelsea, and Arsenal. The Premier League is the most popular and the most watched league in the world. Of course, popularity will ebb and flow based on success. Many many supporters will abandon clubs if they go through a dry spell and a team that has success will draw in millions of new fans.

[Justin_3d 1,140]

Not an answer I was expecting.

Well let me give my take:

Madrid and Barcelona might be the best team in the galaxy, but facts are facts!

More money is coming to the PL because is more attractive to watch.

The TV deals that are being paid for PL matches are proves for themselves:

New contract that will take place in 2014, where payout for TV rights will be higher.

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

Hm i never intended to compare la liga and epl, not of my interest as it is common knowledge that epl is most watched in planet, and other numbers come with it.

I took your question as a question asking how popular Real Madrid and Barcelona and thus la liga are in asia and Usa and i can tell you that they are very popular, its obvious.

Just Real Madrid and Barca attract so much, epl has on its side that it has plenty of big name teams to support its attraction.

[Justin_3d 1,140]

Hm i never intended to compare la liga and epl, not of my interest as it is common knowledge that epl is most watched in planet, and other numbers come with it.

I took your question as a question asking how popular Real Madrid and Barcelona are in asia and Usa and i can tell you that they are very popular, its obvious.

Just Real Madrid and Barca attract so much, epl has on its side that it has plenty of big name teams to support its attraction.

And that is the problem for leagues to grow.

When 1 or 2 team gain so much power over the other it becomes dead.

Like a SPL where a lot of people will tune for the Celtic vs Rangers game, and everything is less.

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

And that is the problem for leagues to grow.

When 1 or 2 team gain so much power over the other it becomes dead.

Like a SPL where a lot of people will tune for the Celtic vs Rangers game, and everything is less.

Ya, the tv money, and all that only makes it worse.

Go here for more info about it

http://swissramble.blogspot.com/

[Justin_3d 1,140]

Ya, the tv money, and all that only makes it worse.

Go here for more info about it

http://swissramble.blogspot.com/

So do you think in La Liga it should be a equal share of TV revenue like in the PL?

Or that Madrid and Barcelona get their own contract and make more then the rest?

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

So do you think in La Liga it should be a equal share of TV revenue like in the PL?

Or that Madrid and Barcelona get their own contract and make more then the rest?

I only care for my madrid when it comes to la liga..so theres your answer

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

Basque Pride ! They are autonomous too but they are more cool about it.

http://en.wikipedia....mous_community)

Xabi Alonso is basque.

More coo about it? You mean like ETA and their car bombs and assassinations? The Basques are, unlike the Catalans, a separate ethnic group with a language that's not even related to the romance languages in the area. Catalonia is somewhat like Scotland is to England, connected and similar in many ways, but still a separate entity. The Basques are sort of like the Kurds, an ethnic group who was enormously oppressed by the government, has their own language, and whose boundaries are in multiple countries (Spain and France) and feel they deserve their own country.

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

More coo about it? You mean like ETA and their car bombs and assassinations? The Basques are, unlike the Catalans, a separate ethnic group with a language that's not even related to the romance languages in the area. Catalonia is somewhat like Scotland is to England, connected and similar in many ways, but still a separate entity. The Basques are sort of like the Kurds, an ethnic group who was enormously oppressed by the government, has their own language, and whose boundaries are in multiple countries (Spain and France) and feel they deserve their own country.

Take it as you may, for the most part what i talk about here is guided footballistically. Bilbao has never been as aggressive towards us as barcelona regarding the politics as a football club and base, and even now they are not as agressive politically or their people as individuals as cataluna from what i have seen. Thanks for the history lesson but i stand with what i said for the record.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

Take it as you may, for the most part what i talk about here is guided footballistically. Bilbao has never been as aggressive towards us as barcelona regarding the politics as a football club and base, and even now they are not as agressive politically or their people as individuals as cataluna from what i have seen. Thanks for the history lesson but i stand with what i said for the record.

That's because Bilbao is a minor club and Barcelona have been the best club in the world over the past decade. We've faced Barcelona in a number of closely contested, key games. As far as I know, we've never played a match against Bilbao. Of course there's going to be competition and conflict against Barcelona and none against Bilbao. Plenty of Chelsea fans dislike Barcelona and I'm pretty sure we're all ambivalent about Bilbao. It's like saying "people from Torquay are cooler than people from North London because Arsenal and Spurs fans always attack us and Torquay United supporters don't."

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

That's because Bilbao is a minor club and Barcelona have been the best club in the world over the past decade. We've faced Barcelona in a number of closely contested, key games. As far as I know, we've never played a match against Bilbao. Of course there's going to be competition and conflict against Barcelona and none against Bilbao. Plenty of Chelsea fans dislike Barcelona and I'm pretty sure we're all ambivalent about Bilbao. It's like saying "people from Torquay are cooler than people from North London because Arsenal and Spurs fans always attack us and Torquay United supporters don't."

No you still havent understood what im trying to say. Overall the bilbao feeling for seperatism for spain is less than that of barcelona's both football ad politically. it doesnt mean ther are actualy Cool about it, but they are MORE cool about it, as funny as it may sound. Ive said enough about this.

[capriccioso 2,545]

At this point we are getting off topic regarding ramires, and i cant care less for him coming to madrid and i have already stated so so lets just end it here, as this is not the thread for it. Go to the madrid thread or just look the other way after the following..

Now again i find you rambling jibberish from your keyboard here. There is no delusional thinking under that context, atleast not from me or the club or the players. Mourinho likes hard working people and has fallen under a certain mold and profile of players but he adapts to the situation and has done so well here. You have still said nothing new, relevant, nothing.

And then the 3rd paragraph, i can understand where that vision of yours comes from, and let me tell you that its wrong, its laughably wrong and this is all. Play at their own game? Open your mind and see the world as it is..no one is trying to out play them at their own game, you are looking at it wrong.

If you're not going to play them at their own game why insist on signing Modric ahead of a worker? And what is irrelevant? The main goal of Real Madrid at this point is surely to overtake Barcelona as the leading club in the world. As Zinedine Zidane said (I paraphrase here), why put on extra layers of gold paint on the Bentley when there is no engine?

Also, the Basques are far more violent in separatism than the Catalans. They are somewhat similar to Sri Lankan Tamil's. I take that back, as a Sri Lankan Tamil I hate how people automatically assume I support the LTTE. Not one member of my family supports the Liberation Tigers, and neither do the majority of Sri Lankan Tamil's I know.

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

If you're not going to play them at their own game why insist on signing Modric ahead of a worker?

Who says we are signing modric? Dont talk in absolutes like that.

And then when it comes to the midfield and order of play, just because you are trying to find pieces of work in your midfield to improve in some way, it doesnt mean that you are trying to do the same thing.

Do you watch modric play? He is similar to granero only miles better at certain aspects. Granero would be a good partner to alonso but he isnt secure enough at several aspects to surpass khedira as the partner of alonso. A Modrid-Sahin midfield for all that we know could do what ours can but with much more mobility, and ability to retain possesion of the ball, that though does not mean we attempt tiki taka ffs.

You sound like you have no clue about our scheme, which apparently you dont mate.

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

For the record when you post something, post it correctly, dont edit it, or else that seems like you are unsure about what you are writing and it may leave my response lacking as you keep adding to it.

I cant care less for basque talk right now, sorry mate but lets not get into that political nonsense.

We play at our own game and have done well doing so this season. Theres not much more to say. Its your view thats wrong. We wont ever try to play like barcelona, out football is quick, fast, and vertical, with priority on goals.

Anything else?

[capriccioso 2,545]

I meant you, not the club. I'm talking to you as a fan, not a technical director at Real Madrid. Why is it you prefer playmakers to workers if not to usher in an era of possession football at Real Madrid?

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

I meant you, not the club. I'm talking to you as a fan, not a technical director at Real Madrid. Why is it you prefer playmakers to workers if not to usher in an era of possession football at Real Madrid?

So by now, now that you have nothing else to say you ask me this?

I will answer it with similar fashion as before. I am not interested in possession football, here is where you have assumed WRONG, and incorrectly. I dont want ramires because he does not impress me, if mourinho wants a similar player he will get him but i dont think thats what he wants. You dont know whats going on inside my head, but you write in absolutes and ask question along those lines.

Javi martinez, and yaya toure would be better additions than ramires, martinez is like a 2nd coming of redondo ffs, hed be a very good player.

We play different football and a different scheme, we are vertical, those players would improve over khedira, and an aging alonso.

Sahin-Toure

Sahin-Martinez

Alonso-Toure

Alonso-Modric

Sahin-Modric

and dozens of more possibilities, it can only improve this team.

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

And by the way, i always imagine a team in a realistic boundary, i have to think about other factors such as the manager and club and history and style and current situations.

I cant just talk as a "fan" whatever that means.

thats why i puke at all the ridiculous van persie, rooney, aguero, silva, etc, transfer rumours linked to us at times by joke newspapers such as daily mail and the sun, and even marca.

I always see things from as good as a view as possible.

[Spike 12,049]

So Yaya Touré is a realistic target even though he often stated his desire to return to Barcelona one day?

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

So Yaya Touré is a realistic target even though he often stated his desire to return to Barcelona one day?

I talk about possible players that have been linked with us, such as modric has with us, i have no idea if he will come here or not, but he is a player that would do us good.

Ask him about his barcelona thoughts, only he knows the truth, quote what hes said about barcelona.

I have never read anything as absolute like that come from him. He has never stated his desire to return to barcelona, nor would they get him back.

[Spike 12,049]

I talk about possible players that have been linked with us, such as modric has with us, i have no idea if he will come here or not, but he is a player that would do us good.

Ask him about his barcelona thoughts, only he knows the truth, quote what hes said about barcelona.

I have never read anything as absolute like that come from him. He has never stated his desire to return to barcelona, nor would they get him back.

The players you listed earlier while linked by gutter press are still linked with your club. It's is hypocritical to discuss Modric while not discussing Silva even if the source is less reputable. If you puke over Silva than you most definitly should puke over Touré.

"I said two years ago that I would return. It's been the most important team for me and if they call you don't think twice. I love Barcelona.

"In the press conference I did when I left I said I would return, in life you never know what will happen tomorrow, it's been the team of my life and I would like to finish my sporting career here. If I could return, it would be great."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/09/manchester-city-yaya-toure-barcelona

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-city/9254253/Manchester-Citys-Yaya-Toure-wants-Barcelona-return.html