The International Football Thread

[Barbara 15,149]

Some gifs I had on my profile feed

best post ever!!!!

When Barça team sees this, they'll smile to each other happy with themselves. Neymar is showing he already has the same skills as Busquets, Dani Alves, Pedro, Messi (oh yea, the holy saint also acts) and company in Barcelona. Success guaranteed.

[TrippingStep 336]

At least he'll definitely have a career in acting if he fails in Europe.

Or at the world wrestling entertainment with his selling

[Ankit 3,176]

best post ever!!!!

When Barça team sees this, they'll smile to each other happy with themselves. Neymar is showing he already has the same skills as Busquets, Dani Alves, Pedro, Messi (oh yea, the holy saint also acts) and company in Barcelona. Success guaranteed.

Holy saint? Not after someone reads this!

http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/bayern-muenchen/stuerzte-guardiola-ueber-messi-30503596.bild.html

[Barbara 15,149]

Holy saint? Not after someone reads this!

http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/bayern-muenchen/stuerzte-guardiola-ueber-messi-30503596.bild.html

I can't read that, love

what is it about?

[Ankit 3,176]

I can't read that, love

what is it about?

Here is the translation of this article in English -

All those who want to know what to expect Bayern with Pep Guardiola should read this book.

IMAGE prints exclusive extracts from the new book "Pep Guardiola - The Biography" by Spanish sports journalists and experts Guardiola Guillem Balague (published on May 24, in print).

Surprisingly title of a chapter on the currently best footballers in the world:

Messi is unique, a one player. We can only hope that he never lapses into boredom that the club can provide him with the appropriate players to the side so that he continues to feel good, because as long as that is the case, he will not fail.

If he does not play well, that's because there is something wrong in his environment. One must try to ensure that it maintains the peace that he has in his private life, and hope that the club is intelligent enough to the right players to commit to its support. "

Guardiola on Messi's special status at FC Barcelona

For frustrating games you experienced a capricious Messi, who stares down without showing a smile, and gives the offended. Under the angelic, innocent-looking exterior lurks a predator behind his ambition and record performance conceals a child. And children can not hide their feelings often.

Messi went once with a teaspoon in the mouth on the practice field, and this spoon was also the most of the training time there. (...)

This behavior during training was probably due to the fact that he had been replaced at the game the night before. On other occasions when he had to pause or has been replaced, he did not speak for days with his coach.

Ibrahimovic in his first months as reaped most of the applause at the club, Messi said in an interview with pizzazz he wanted to play either as number nine, or not at all. "And what am I supposed to do with Ibrahimovic?" Asked pizzazz. Messi was adamant: "I play here or I do not play games. Send the other on the wing. "

Guardiola had grown into a monster Messi?

The Argentine decreed in the last season of the trainer about absolute power and behaved sometimes wrong. He was stirring regularly when young players like Cuenca ("Take your head up!" Ruled him Messi in a match against Granada at once) or Tello ("flank", Messi yelled at him to AC Milan when he sought and against the door in the short corner Abbiati anpeilte) him the ball no charges.

Even David Villa was not forgiven if he shot on goal, although he had the opportunity to play Messi. (...)

Messi's influence extended far beyond the playing field: The club asked in Messi environment to what you would think of as an obligation of the Brazilian Neymar. Messi knows the young star about Dani Alves, the three played with the Playstation Online football. The club received the desired response: "Take him under contract."

Pep had the feeling that he had Messi with too much power? When he spoke, he left the club before "mutually hurt" himself, indicated that many observers, among other things as an allusion to Messi. Pep would have if he would go on, rebalance the balance of power again in order to avoid that a single player scored 73 goals and contributed no one else responsible? (...)

Pep Guardiola started his coaching career in Barcelona - this argument must be raised here - with the development of team success interaction, but in his last season he turned in favor of an individual quality. So do all coaches, because ultimately they are the footballers who decide games, and that is especially true if the person at issue, Lionel Messi. (...)

To keep the right balance between an extraordinary player and the team spirit is a very difficult task, but Pep managed somehow during most of his tenure. But it was necessary that he so clearly and so often emphasized, Messi is a very special player?

Was this the beginning of a development that would ultimately culminate in Guardiola's departure because he was aware of the imbalance brought about by him deliberately? The coach ensures that a balance in the team. And if he will like a player surrenders, the balance must be readjusted according to the unwritten laws of football.

[SinineUltra 1,170]

1) Many people (Artinho and Choulo included) said he is going to fail.

2) He went for 28mi euros + 10mi in agents (his father included) and third party fees. It is just like the stupid 175k/week Hazard false stories. I can swear to my life that he only went for that, I heard this from the only mouth I would trust regarding Neymar.

3) You dont understand what goes on at Brazil vs Uruguay/Argentina. He is not an European, so he doesnt hale to follow your 'conduct rules', and thank fuck for that. Besides, any of the brazilian players would do the same as Neymar did. The game is played dirty in South American and that is how the culture is. People are more mainly here, there is no politically correct when trying to win a game. Does he dive? Yes. But he wont in Barcelona, because he knows the game is bery different in Spain and Europe.

4) What 'best in the world' task force? Neymar knows he will never be the best in the world playing with Messi (because Messi will always outshine anyone). If he cared about winning Ballon D'Or he would have joined us when he had the chance.

5) Do you honestly think he care what anyone thinks of him? Please, lets not be naive. We can all scream whatever we want, it is not like any player will pay attention.

Did you just want to imply that South American men are more manly? And then justify diving and acting with cultural reasons we 'Europeans' - as you like to brand- can't understand.

On the other hand, wishing a footballer to break his leg is just wrong. If he makes it, great, but if not - it wasn't meant to be I guess. Ill start judging him at his second year, first year can be a transition.

[Barbara 15,149]

not surprising about Messi, but they do sell the perfect angelic saint image of him against Cris' devilish one. I take Cris any other day

[Rmpr 8,977]

Did you just want to imply that South American men are more manly? And then justify diving and acting with cultural reasons we 'Europeans' - as you like to brand- can't understand.

I did not imply we are more mainly, I explicit said that. However, this is not a good thing, which is why many women are beaten and many gays are descriminated.

And yes, diving is ok in South America and you wont change a century of culture because it isnt acceptable in Europe. Many players dive here and dont dive in Europe, because each style and culture is different. You will just have to live with that...

[SinineUltra 1,170]

I did not imply we are more mainly, I explicit said that. However, this is not a good thing, which is why many women are beaten and many gays are descriminated.

And yes, diving is ok in South America and you wont change a century of culture because it isnt acceptable in Europe. Many players dive here and dont dive in Europe, because each style and culture is different. You will just have to live with that...

Then I'll explicitly ask you - what makes one more manly? Racism, homophobia and beating women?

[Barbara 15,149]

woah

I think it's all the same, guys.

I just mentioned Busquets, Pedro and others in Barça team - who are Spaniards - who also dive and act the heck out of their arses... it's not exclusive from South America, nor do I think men here are manly...

Let's not delve into that discussion though? It smells like things getting personal, out of hand and misunderstandings seem to be likely.

[SinineUltra 1,170]

woah

I think it's all the same, guys.

I just mentioned Busquets, Pedro and others in Barça team - who are Spaniards - who also dive and act the heck out of their arses... it's not exclusive from South America, nor do I think men here are manly...

Let's not delve into that discussion though? It smells like things getting personal, out of hand and misunderstandings seem to be likely.

Point made, point taken.

Btw, your current avatar is the best so far. Random, but thought I'd let you know.

[Barbara 15,149]

Point made, point taken.

Btw, your current avatar is the best so far. Random, but thought I'd let you know.

thank you

[Weckerz 3,781]

As if Oscar suddenly transforms into a diving cunt when he plays for Brazil.. You're either a cheat or you're not, it doesn't matter what continent you're from

[Rmpr 8,977]

Then I'll explicitly ask you - what makes one more manly? Racism, homophobia and beating women?

No, those are the coleteral consequences, which are different than what makes them (causes).

The problem is that people cant accept somethings are just different. It doesnt mean it is better or worse, it only means they are different!

This applies to culture, men behaviour, women behaviour, etc, etc, etc. Dont be naive to think people in South America are the same ad Europeans or that people in the Middle East are the same as people in USA...

[Rmpr 8,977]

As if Oscar suddenly transforms into a diving cunt when he plays for Brazil.. You're either a cheat or you're not, it doesn't matter what continent you're from

As like all players are the same! :lol2:

Romario dived for Brazil, Rivaldo dived for Brazil, Ronaldo had his dive moments (but rare) for Brazil, Denilson dived for Brazil, etc...

Besides, it is not like I am saying he doesnt cheat. I am saying that cheating is acceptable here!

[Barbara 15,149]

As if Oscar suddenly transforms into a diving cunt when he plays for Brazil.. You're either a cheat or you're not, it doesn't matter what continent you're from

THIS.

I do agree south american cheat more than Europeans - or so it seems because again it's cultural, but at the end of the day each individual should be held accountable for their own actions, labeling everyone or generalizing may be dangerous, although we do see much more cheating like that around here... but maybe it's because I don't watch enough European football (which is improbable as I watch more European than Brazilian footie these days)

[Weckerz 3,781]

As like all players are the same! :lol2:

Romario dived for Brazil, Rivaldo dived for Brazil, Ronaldo had his dive moments (but rare) for Brazil, Denilson dived for Brazil, etc...

It was a reply to you saying Brazilian players don't dive in Europe, but do so for their national team, because in South-America it's "accepted". I'm saying that's ridiculous and you're either a cheat or you aren't.

Stop using that point/laugh emoticon, it makes you look like a proper cunt.

[MetsajCFC 1,255]

No, those are the coleteral consequences, which are different than what makes them (causes).

The problem is that people cant accept somethings are just different. It doesnt mean it is better or worse, it only means they are different!

This applies to culture, men behaviour, women behaviour, etc, etc, etc. Dont be naive to think people in South America are the same ad Europeans or that people in the Middle East are the same as people in USA...

We get your point, we accept it and so on but don't take it so personally when anyone has something to say about Neymar. Most of us here are Europeans and we are judging it based on "our" culture, like you said. You tell us not to judge you, don't judge us. No need to "convert" our beliefs. He is a very talented footballer but his diving and cheating habits are a fact, nothing isn't going to change it. And as far as I know football is played under one set of rules, there are no "european" rules and "south-american rules". Traditions I get, but cheating is cheating. He isn't the only one doing it, of course. I remember Drogba getting alot of stick for diving to the ground rather than playing on and seeing what he could have made from that oppurtunity. Plus it hurts Neymar's reputation. Just remember the time Johnny Evans flew into Drogbas rib-cage with high foot and in the end it was Drogba getting yellow carded for diving but replay showed it was clear red card foul.

[Rmpr 8,977]

THIS.

I do agree south american cheat more than Europeans - or so it seems because again it's cultural, but at the end of the day each individual should be held accountable for their own actions, labeling everyone or generalizing may be dangerous, although we do see much more cheating like that around here... but maybe it's because I don't watch enough European football (which is improbable as I watch more European than Brazilian footie these days)

So, all you are saying is that my line of thought doesnt apply to 100% of the players? Well, even I know that!

Nevertheless, most players DO dive here because it is cultural and when they play in Europe they act differently. And this doesnt not apply only to football, most Brazilian tourists act ridiculously different when in USA or Europe than they do at home!

For instance, imagine us in Brazil allowed people to walk naked. An European would get here an be terrified, but he would not be able to force people to walk with their clothes on, it would be just the culture and he would have to accept. However, a Brazilian would be wrong to walk naked in Europe just because he can in Brazil. Now, translate the metaphor...

[Barbara 15,149]

So, all you are saying is that my line of thought doesnt apply to 100% of the players? Well, even I know that!

Nevertheless, most players DO dive here because it is cultural and when they play in Europe they act differently. And this doesnt not apply only to football, most Brazilian tourists act ridiculously different when in USA or Europe than they do at home!

For instance, imagine us in Brazil allowed people to walk naked. An European would get here an be terrified, but he would not be able to force people to walk with their clothes on, it would be just the culture and he would have to accept. However, a Brazilian would be wrong to walk naked in Europe just because he can in Brazil. Now, translate the metaphor...

no, love, I'm saying the manly thing might sound wrong, be wrong and lead to a discussion that won't end well.

The cheating part is a different subject... and on that I agree SA would do it more often, though I can't be sure as I may not watch enough European football.

The naked example is so funny!