Josh McEachran

[ZanSnake 1,211]

Good luck to him.

Hope one day he will find a place in the PL and show his potential at another club. Maybe with Jimmy as the manager too

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

Glad hes gone, needs to get a grip of his career, shown that money and a little success can turn someone into something totally different. No other way to put it that that he blew his chance really badly.

[Clockwork 1,794]

Glad hes gone, needs to get a grip of his career, shown that money and a little success can turn someone into something totally different. No other way to put it that that he blew his chance really badly.

So you knew Josh on a personal level?

How can you make such statements about a person without knowing him?

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

So you knew Josh on a personal level?

How can you make such statements about a person without knowing him?

Oh come on don't give me that bullshit he had a breakout year under Ancelotti, signed a new deal and then it all went to fuck. Something went wrong, you can't say we didn't give him enough chances we loaned him out to Swansea where he didn't do much, Boro, Watford, Wigan and then Vitesse where other than the Boro loan he flopped hugely. He hardly played for Swansea, Wigan, Watford or Vitesse so something was wrong. Big contract too soon?

[Clockwork 1,794]

Oh come on don't give me that bullshit he had a breakout year under Ancelotti, signed a new deal and then it all went to fuck. Something went wrong, you can't say we didn't give him enough chances we loaned him out to Swansea where he didn't do much, Boro, Watford, Wigan and then Vitesse where other than the Boro loan he flopped hugely. He hardly played for Swansea, Wigan, Watford or Vitesse so something was wrong. Big contract too soon?

Promise to replay at a later time, because i need some time to replay to this as best as possible.

[zolayes 14,489]

he might make a career at championship level or league 1

[boshman 1,073]

I was at the game he made his debut. He came off the bench against Newcastle in a League Cup game, we were 3-1 down and he totally changed the game. 17yo I think at the time and he bossed that midfield like he had been there 10 years. We pulled the game back to 3-3 and I thought, wow! We have someone special here. How badly it nosedived from there.

[Madmax 9,219]

I was at the game he made his debut. He came off the bench against Newcastle in a League Cup game, we were 3-1 down and he totally changed the game. 17yo I think at the time and he bossed that midfield like he had been there 10 years. We pulled the game back to 3-3 and I thought, wow! We have someone special here. How badly it nosedived from there.

Remember it well. Watch this video and weep.

Edited July 15, 2015 by Madmax

[iseah100 5,612]

Remember it well. Watch this video and weep.

Such a shame.

[Clockwork 1,794]

Oh come on don't give me that bullshit he had a breakout year under Ancelotti, signed a new deal and then it all went to fuck. Something went wrong, you can't say we didn't give him enough chances we loaned him out to Swansea where he didn't do much, Boro, Watford, Wigan and then Vitesse where other than the Boro loan he flopped hugely. He hardly played for Swansea, Wigan, Watford or Vitesse so something was wrong. Big contract too soon?

Maybe money had something to do with it, i cant say since i don't know him. You are right some people are like that, they get a taste of stardom+Money+lifestyle, their motivation goes down and they stop striving, then they decline. You can't do much for them, if they don't have the ambition to be the best they can be then honestly they can't be helped.

But there is something wrong with how Chelsea handles their youth players. I say our loan system is the equivalent of business outsourcing, whenever companies outsource their products the quality of the product completely deteriorates. Outsourcing admittedly is successful for mass production(ex Chip/tech, Nike, Adidas,etc) but not suited for luxury products(Gucci, Louis Vutton, Burburry,etc).

Developing youth players should be treated as luxury products, because the chances of developing one at Chelsea standard is quite rare. You have to remember Josh was not a finish product, if Chelsea wanted him developed properly they should have kept him in house and took responsibility for it. But they loaned him hoping Swansea would develop him. Lets be honest if Swansea, Boro, Watford, Wigan were good enough to develop a rare talent like Josh(while at the time he was perceived to be) then why are they not producing players like him? because they are not good enough, so it makes no sense to let them handle Josh development.

Well hopefully Chelsea has learned their lesson after years of failed Youth loan policy. Maybe the reluctance to loan RLC is a sign of change.

Ps. What i call Youth loan policy does not include players like Lukaku, KDB, Tibo, etc. I consider them professional players and not Chelsea youth, since they arrived at Chelsea at that level.

[Tomo 21,751]

Maybe money had something to do with it, i cant say since i don't know him. You are right some people are like that, they get a taste of stardom+Money+lifestyle, their motivation goes down and they stop striving, then they decline. You can't do much for them, if they don't have the ambition to be the best they can be then honestly they can't be helped.

But there is something wrong with how Chelsea handles their youth players. I say our loan system is the equivalent of business outsourcing, whenever companies outsource their products the quality of the product completely deteriorates. Outsourcing admittedly is successful for mass production(ex Chip/tech, Nike, Adidas,etc) but not suited for luxury products(Gucci, Louis Vutton, Burburry,etc).

Developing youth players should be treated as luxury products, because the chances of developing one at Chelsea standard is quite rare. You have to remember Josh was not a finish product, if Chelsea wanted him developed properly they should have kept him in house and took responsibility for it. But they loaned him hoping Swansea would develop him. Lets be honest if Swansea, Boro, Watford, Wigan were good enough to develop a rare talent like Josh(while at the time he was perceived to be) then why are they not producing players like him? because they are not good enough, so it makes no sense to let them handle Josh development.

Well hopefully Chelsea has learned their lesson after years of failed Youth loan policy. Maybe the reluctance to loan RLC is a sign of change.

Ps. What i call Youth loan policy does not include players like Lukaku, KDB, Tibo, etc. I consider them professional players and not Chelsea youth, since they arrived at Chelsea at that level.

Yes the club could maybe have done better in a few cases but I ain't accepting any blame for McEachran, that one Is on him and only him.

Maybe if Jose was here In 2011 he would have given Josh similar tough love he gave RLC, oh well.

[Jase 43,479]

Apparently...

Brentford played against Stoke in a friendly earlier today...

[the wes 7,212]

Apparently...

Brentford played against Stoke in a friendly earlier today...

josh has no luck at all ffs

[DDA 9,924]

I was at the game he made his debut. He came off the bench against Newcastle in a League Cup game, we were 3-1 down and he totally changed the game. 17yo I think at the time and he bossed that midfield like he had been there 10 years. We pulled the game back to 3-3 and I thought, wow! We have someone special here. How badly it nosedived from there.

I was there on that day too.

Josh was incredible!

The way he was treated wasn't right imo.

He could have been the real deal in the number 10 role. He is a wizard with the ball.

[Clockwork 1,794]

I have noticed(for a while tbh) that both Nat Chalobah and Josh MacEchran have younger brothers coming through Chelsea.

How good are they, how do they compare to their older siblings?