Hutcho 8,443 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Well...I am an anarcho-socilaist with emphasis on anarcho-syndicalism so..I am an economist, and think anarchism is a load of BS... So you are completely correct on the differing views... Kieran. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Just saw Zuckerberg gave $500m to charity, but no one would know this if he didn't announce it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Just saw Zuckerberg gave $500m to charity, but no one would know this if he didn't announce it.tbf if i gave 500 mil to charity i would want people to know i did... Which i suppose isnt the right attitude towards charity but, they are giving the money away. Sheva. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naked Mole Rat 437 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Just saw Zuckerberg gave $500m to charity, but no one would know this if he didn't announce it.OMG WHAT AN ATTENTION WHOREEE HE'S MONEY'S WORTH NOTHING!!!11On a serious note, though, I see nothing wrong with letting people know that you're doing good things. A lot of people think that's a wrong thing to do, but you deserve recognition when you excel at something and the same should apply when you do the honourable. Hutcho 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Yeah my point is, it's not everyone that announces like he did and people never know. So when they just see a rich person buy himself an expensive car or whatever, they'll say he could have given money to charity, when he probably already has done. Hutcho, manpe and Naked Mole Rat 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 OMG WHAT AN ATTENTION WHOREEE HE'S MONEY'S WORTH NOTHING!!!11Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 In my opinion, just because he has the money, doesnt mean it is a clever thing to buy a half a billion plane (even though it is an A380). People often mistake the facts, no one is disputing he can do whatever he wants if his money but that doesnt not make it a right atitute.I believe there is a limit amount of luxury that is acceptable. I dont see a problem when people have a 10m home, 2 or 3 500k cars, 40k watches, 100k jewerly, private plane or yatch, etc. I do have a problem when I see 300million yatchs, 100million mansions or 500million planes. How can some mombers defend it? How can someone take a look at his countries statistics and rating and still find it normal?Of course he can do as he whishes, it is his "hard earned" money (LOL). For me, it is more of an attack towards our system, that allow some to live with nothing and others with billions. If we lived in a world with a very small percentage of poverty, I wouldnt be so worried with people who have billions, but we arent. What would change in his life if he had 2billions instead of 21? How much better would it be if we had some with 1-3 billions but everyone else with at least 10-20k?Like I said, I dont expect all these people to donate all their money, but they could have a more humanitary feeling and buy a 200million plane and do a good will for his own people with the other 285. Also, I am not expecting them to donate 95% of their wealth (I wouldnt do it myself), but as a prince, he could take care of his people before taking care of the whores he will hire to have a wild party up high. Investing and atracting investidors so he can raise 100-200million to gove them better infraestructure and academic and professional opportunities, would be an amazing and vastly more rewarding act.P.S: When I say it would be better if those billionaires had only 3billions, I am not expecting them to gather around and decide to give away all their money. I am saying that little by little we could achieve that level of monetary equalitarism.P.S: By donation and investment, I mean sincerely will to help others. Not some bullshit parties to impress friends and finish business or fake donations to lower taxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Rich people spending money is a great thing. They buy 3 cars. The car dealership gets more money, the workers get an increase in salary if they are on commision or they get a bonus etc. They then have more disposable income and themselves decide to spend some more money. This carries on through a change and AD goes up causing lots of benefits in the economy. An equivilant of the government deciding to subsadise bulding works creating work etc. Obviously things don't exactly go like that and there are a number of other factors that have to be taken into account but my overall point is just because rich people decide to be "greedy" and buy themselves stuff doesn't necessarily mean its a bad thing for everyday people. Naked Mole Rat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 100% agree.This is just shocking. Your conviction is all assumptions, and convictions as strong as yours should be based on more than just assumptions. You stereotype the rich as cunts, but on what basis are you making that claim? Also, if you are correct, the movement in Germany you mentioned and support must be considered an attempt at what could have been one of the worst cases of limitations on civil liberty in the developed part of the world.I couldn't disagree more. Just because someone has done well for themselves makes them a greedy cunt. If you work hard and get a great job that pays well then good luck to you. If you can affiord to pay 500 mil for a jet then good luck to you... It's also great news for the economy, meaning that will benefit others through him spending that money.By that logic, you think every single chelsea player is a greedy cunt... Cancel that, every single upper league footballer.Bill gates is a greedy cunt as well who has given BILLIONS to charity.Richard branson is a greedy cunt???And the motion in germany is BS and i am glad it failed! May as well bring back the soviet union and have mass socialism.We have different political views, friends And obviously some rich people are nice, but almost all are greedy.You don't become rich without greed. Everybody is greedy to some extent, it is not necessarily a bad thing. If you are too greedy or too ungreedy(?), then you are bound to hurt yourself or others. But if you are geedy just enough to provide yourself a normal life and some luxuries without the expense of others, that's healthy greed.Greed isn't too far off from ambition. Scientists for example want to make scientific breakthrough because they want to become known nobel prize winners or at least make a name for themselves, journalists want to win the pulitzer award, writers want their books to become bestsellers etc. That's called ambition when in fact that isn't far off from greed, but it's positive because they focus on quality to get there.Of course there are people who are born rich (like Saudi princes) and they grow up knowing nothing about poverty. Their greed matches their environment, something they've known their whole life. There's nothing to suggest that if they were born in a normal middle class family they would do everything in their power to become filthy rich. We spoil ourselves with expensive phones, cars and houses which we don't really need, while they apparently spoil themselves by buying jets and yachts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidator 5,176 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 MERRY CHRISTMAS FROM EVERYONE AT YOUR NEIGHBOURS QPR!! Hutcho 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,959 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 What is is the name Falcao? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBH 283 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 These people are completely out of touch with reality. I'd love to see how they'd survive on minimum wage for a month...They'd probably die without people to buy and cook their food or wipe their arse's. Less than minimum wage, like what they pay to their workers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 @Leif, choose an avatar ffs!I cant remember how many times I have clicked on your profile because I see a different image and I go like, "who is this new member?". Blue-in-me-Veins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Can't wait for the end of the world tomorrow. I have 2 projects and I'm not looking forward to doing them. Kojo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Can't wait for the end of the world tomorrow. I have 2 projects and I'm not looking forward to doing them.You could be very disapointed then. Still the "i thought the world was going to end" excuse may work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Can't wait for the end of the world tomorrow. I have 2 projects and I'm not looking forward to doing them.On the other hand I've had to stay back a full week to finish off all my assignments which i accidently left on my lost memory stick.So instead of having that bastard extra week off, i was grafting my arse off.Why couldn't the world of just ended earlier damnit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidator 5,176 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 fuck this shit I'm supporting Crystal Palace Slam Dunk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OReillyD36 311 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 MERRY CHRISTMAS FROM EVERYONE AT YOUR NEIGHBOURS QPR!!Nice to see Shelvey got his hair transplant done in time for xmas Slam Dunk and Liquidator 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 @Kojo, your sig would be better if voteforseb.com actually existed :tophat: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 World is going to end, and Chelsea is still the winner of Champions League.Take your multiple EU titles and stuff it up your arse, the rest of you lot! CHELSEA TILL I FUCKING DIE!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3oBZ4_TNys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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