TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Ramires is not a great fit for this formation/tactics. He's really a 4-3-3 midfielder who works best on the counter-attack. We're playing the 4-1-1-3-1 formation and are building towards a more ball posession/movement game. He's good defensively but he's not a real DM, he's certainly not a deep-lying midfielder, nor is he a winger. He can play a whole bunch of positions, but he's not made for any of them which makes him an excellent squad player. He'll play a fair bit, mostly on the right side of midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 The one with the most to lose with Moses coming in, especially if Robbie sticks to the 4-2-3-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 You know what, I wish Ramires was at least as comfortable with his passing as Meireles is. He'd be perfect in that pivot with Mikel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 i Fear the worst for rambo, no longer playing on the wing with likes of hazard, marin, moses, mata.RDM gota change 4-3-3 as i and others been saying for long ass time. alslets hope rambo succeeds in double pivot in some devine way/shape/or form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleazyB 58 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 With both Rambo, and Oscar nor effective in a 4-3-3, I'm sure we shall see it this season, especially when we want to give Hazard, and Mata a rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinol 337 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Weve won our first 3 games and you want us to change formation? So it suits Ramires? Give me a break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Land 331 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 The more Isee him the least I want him to play.Oscar should start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,700 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 The more Isee him the least I want him to play.Oscar should start Oh my.. Ramires was one of our best players last season. He is a running machine, he scored a lot of important goals in 2011/12. And you don't want to see him on the pitch? Nice. Oscar is a very talented young player, but he hasn't proved anything here but Ramires has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinol 337 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Oh my.. Ramires was one of our best players last season. He is a running machine, he scored a lot of important goals in 2011/12. And you don't want to see him on the pitch? Nice. Oscar is a very talented young player, but he hasn't proved anything here but Ramires has.I agree that he is a good player and that he has something the other players doesnt have but he has done very little on the right wing. Did he do anything good when he came on agaisnt Newcastle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleazyB 58 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Weve won our first 3 games and you want us to change formation? So it suits Ramires? Give me a break.Again, we will have plenty of games this season, so I'm sure we will see different formations and tactics. It's not like we are confined to only one. So chill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,700 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 I agree that he is a good player and that he has something the other players doesnt have but he has done very little on the right wing. Did he do anything good when he came on agaisnt Newcastle? No, he sucked today. But let's don't forget that he is not a winger. He would be much better as a cmf. Our formation (4-2-3-1) is not so good for him. But, he is a really good player, i guess we should find a place for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 I hate seeing him deployed on the wing, but we shouldn't be blaming him, in fact we should be happy that he's not a prima donna that moans about being played out of position, he just gets on with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanSnake 1,211 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 I think he is going to be used as a 'tactical-player' by Roberto against players who haven't really used to his fast closing down, or pase when chasing down, or to come on when the opposition are tired and/or if we are playing counter. He is such a great player, but like it was being said before the 4-2-3-1 doesn't suit him, but if we played like we did today (4-3-3 kind of formation) he have the freedom to charge forward like he does so perfectly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Land 331 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Oh my.. Ramires was one of our best players last season. He is a running machine, he scored a lot of important goals in 2011/12. And you don't want to see him on the pitch? Nice. Oscar is a very talented young player, but he hasn't proved anything here but Ramires has.I appreciate what ramires did for us,mainly in CL,but i just dont think he has been playing well at all in the wing recently,he should play at his original position, CM/DM in the double pivot.I would be in favor of him starting if we kept playing underdog football like last season,but now we are much different and we require other qualities from our attacking players nyikolajevics 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 He is not a winger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 today was about the worst Ive seen him play ....I must agree with those who say never as RW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las7 951 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Yeah, we should stop playing players in positions where they are simply not effective. Ramires can play right mid, but only in matches like the one against Barca where we intend to defend and counter attack he doesn't work when our build up play is slow with no urgency and there is no space for him to exploit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 He's not a RW, simple as that. Land 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Sadly Ramires is poor without space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan_Osborn 58 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 I want to see Ramires and Romeu play as the two holding midfielders or something like: ------Romeu-----------Ramires---------Oscar-------with a front three of the obvious three; Torres, Hazard, Mata. We would be strong defensively and also the ball would pass quickly into attack with Ramires and Oscar acting as deep lying playmakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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