BLionheart 516 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 i am giving a look for the future and within 3 years alex and terry will be very old 33 and 34 i think , luiz is only 23 and already have bags of experience .i know bruma is a very good prospect and i didn't say alex is not good i am just saying luiz will give us something we don't have the pacy , wise defender , carvahlo used to do that role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 That's well and good, but it's obvious that Benfica are not prepared to sell him this season atleast. They've slapped that crazy 40 mil or whatever price tag on him for a reason, and that is to tell clubs that he isn't for sale. In any case, our days of paying over the odds for players are over. In all probability Citeh will pay crazy money to get him next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,534 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 i am giving a look for the future and within 3 years alex and terry will be very old 33 and 34 i think , luiz is only 23 and already have bags of experience .i know bruma is a very good prospect and i didn't say alex is not good i am just saying luiz will give us something we don't have the pacy , wise defender , carvahlo used to do that role.Alex is 28..JT is 29...(Branislav is 26 btw) they aren`t gonna be " very old" " "within 3 years"...pace has never been what they rely upon to get the job done,so they will more than likely be the same players they are now in 3 years. if we need an injection of pace at CB we have Bruma is no slug..neither is Branislav...Luiz ain`t coming for the price they are demanding for him,no way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 This should sum it up for you:Defensive coverLeft-backs - Cole, Zhirkov, van Aanholt, Ferreira, Bosingwa (Malouda if necessary)Right-backs - Ivanovic, Bosingwa, Ferreira, Mancienne, Bruma (Essien if necessary)Centre-backs - Terry, Alex, Ivanovic, Bruma, Mancienne (Essien if necessary)What's to worry about? []First-choice defensive line-up:Bosingwa, Alex, Terry, ColeIf Bosingwa is out, bring in Ivanovic of FerreiraIf Alex is out, bring in IvanovicIf Terry is out, bring in Ivanovic If Cole is out, bring in ZhirkovIf, say, Alex, Cole AND Bosingwa are out, play Ferreira at right-back and Ivanovic in the middle with Yuri on the left:Ferreira, Ivanovic, Terry, ZhirkovThe chances of all four being injured are nominal, but even so if you put Bruma alongside Ivanovic that is a defence that would be first choice at a club such as Sunderland! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 The thing i worry about is the mobility of alex, he is very slow at turning and against a striker like david villa or samuel eto'o he will be burned. Ivo worries me too, he is quick but his agility is poor also, bruma has good agility though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Right. So everyone's slow / immobile/ past it / inexperienced / just not good enough. Let's just get a whole new defence of say Lahm, Lucio, Pique and Maicon shall we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Drog 1,110 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Right. So everyone's slow / immobile/ past it / inexperienced / just not good enough. Let's just get a whole new defence of say Lahm, Lucio, Pique and Maicon shall we?Give me Terry, Alex or Ivanovic over Pique any day, criminally overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Right. So everyone's slow / immobile/ past it / inexperienced / just not good enough. Let's just get a whole new defence of say Lahm, Lucio, Pique and Maicon shall we?:goodpost: you forgot buffon in goal otherwise puuurrrfect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas 1,468 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 We're clearly one man short in the central defence,I wouldn't trust Ferreira there and Essien would be terribly missed in the midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aria 19 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Essien, Ramires, Mikel - that's enough. We won't ever have the situation with all three injured, that's simply too unlikely. Plus if it occurs, we have Ferreira or Ivanovic who can both do the job fine.What we need, is a young striker (but more like next year) - our squad is just fine, would've been better with Matic but oh well he wouldn't have played that much anyway.Edit: Sorry, I read central defensive midfield... my bad We have four players in central defence - JT, Alex, Brane and Bruma. Again, it won't ever occur to have three of them injured. We will only need Bruma if JT/Alex/Ivanovic are all injured, or if JT/Alex/Bosingwa/Ferreira are all injured - both is fucking improbable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas 1,468 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 (edited) If we are to challenge for all 4 rotation will be necessary and we are a few injuries/suspensions away from being in trouble.Squad depth has been our strong point in the last years and we are just not comfortable with the current squad.Either our youth or our meds will have to outdo themselves this year. Edited August 25, 2010 by Kostas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLionheart 516 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 now mancienne is gone so it's actually just 4 CBs at the club including (17 years old bruma ). i don't trust ferrera at all now and i don't wanna lose our horsepower essien in midfeild just as kostas saidone other thing is tbh i like alex and iva very much but alex is not one of the best defenders out there specially if playing without terry ... and iva i see him more as a perfect RB not CB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 now mancienne is gone so it's actually just 4 CBs at the club including (17 years old bruma ). i don't trust ferrera at all now and i don't wanna lose our horsepower essien in midfeild just as kostas saidone other thing is tbh i like alex and iva very much but alex is not one of the best defenders out there specially if playing without terry ... and iva i see him more as a perfect RB not CBWHERE does it say Mancienne has gone ,,,,not on chelsea site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas 1,468 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 WHERE does it say Mancienne has gone ,,,,not on chelsea siteHe's 99% on a year long loan to Wolverhampton.http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/mancienne-joins-wolves-on-loan-again-as-chelsea-reject-1633m-offer-2061045.htmlCould explain why he couldn't be arsed to defend in the reserves game.The official site is usually late with those things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 He's 99% on a year long loan to Wolverhampton.http://www.independe...er-2061045.htmlCould explain why he couldn't be arsed to defend in the reserves game.The official site is usually late with those things.thats the only source ,,,no others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas 1,468 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 thats the only source ,,,no others1234And to be honest we've been expecting a loan move for him for a while now so I'm willing to buy their story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuf 1,448 Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 Dunno what's your problem guys. Defence gets injuried, Essien steps in, Ramires plays in midfield. I think that's what we bought him for, right? To play? Our squad's depth is more than fine, actually I don't think we ever had so much many sided players who can fill 2 or 3 positions, some even 4 or 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 First people moan about not promoting youngsters. Then when the youngsters get a chance, people are too skeptical about them and say we need more depth. Make up your mind ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLionheart 516 Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 First people moan about not promoting youngsters. Then when the youngsters get a chance, people are too skeptical about them and say we need more depth. Make up your mind ffs.so why don't we sell alex and iva to give our youngsters more chances as well !!!!!!!! also i don't know why people count ivanovic as two players one CB and one RB !!!!! he is only one player and can cover for only one place .we have sold carvahlo for god sake he played more than 23 games last season , while alex who is an injury prone was there as well as ivanovic .if this season goes like the last one where we were kinda lucky with defence injuries then we will have one of two options :1- iva will partner terry and ferrera unfortunately will be our RB a lot this year ( not good) because i am sure as hell alex will be injured .2- iva will play as RB and bruma will partner terry a lot this year ( not gonna happen as carlo likes to play iva as CB and bruma as RB (what the hell is that about !!!) anyway even if it does happen can you trust bruma to start over 15 matches this season like carvahlo last one )alex is never fit longer than a month and a half so our only hope is that neither terry nor iva nor bos will have any long term injuries this year or we are screwed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIWATZ 64 Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 1- iva will partner terry and ferrera unfortunately will be our RB a lot this year ( not good) because i am sure as hell alex will be injured .2- iva will play as RB and bruma will partner terry a lot this year ( not gonna happen as carlo likes to play iva as CB and bruma as RB (what the hell is that about !!!) anyway even if it does happen can you trust bruma to start over 15 matches this season like carvahlo last one )You do know that we got Bosingwa right? We didn't kill him I promise and he'll be back in a few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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