Ramires

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Ok I dont know about the rest of ya but im completly confused if Ramires is actually going to come or not. We'v all read the story about him apparantly saying he really wants to come and Stanford bridgewould be his 'Dream Move". But then once again that was apparantly all a lie and Benfica denies him ever saying that. I would just like to know your oppinions on if hes still coming and when the deal will finally be fucking signed??

I think the delay is to do with the 40% ownership that guy has over him. Premier League rules don't allow players to be owned by a 3rd party any more after the whole Tevez/Mascherano debacle. They don't allow clubs to make direct payments to the 3rd Party either so it's up to Benfica to buy out the 40% and then sell Ramires. Until this happens the transfer won't happen.

[DavidEU 2,023]

Sorry, whats wrong with the Ramires transfer topic?

*Moved*

[DYC. 7,542]

Wouldn't mind if the deal falls through (not even sure if Chelsea actually made a bid..)

Ramires is a CM/DM and i think those positions are well stocked. For the DM role we have Essien and Mikel. For CM role we have Lamps and Matic. I would much rather see a great playmaker/midfield maestro join our team as i think that kind of player is the missing link to our midfield-three.

Matic has great potential and Ramires joining our team would really limit his game time. That would be a real waste so i would much rather spend that money on a playmaker type of player.

[Duppy Conqueror 1,527]

Wouldn't mind if the deal falls through (not even sure if Chelsea actually made a bid..)

Ramires is a CM/DM and i think those positions are well stocked. For the DM role we have Essien and Mikel. For CM role we have Lamps and Matic. I would much rather see a great playmaker/midfield maestro join our team as i think that kind of player is the missing link to our midfield-three.

Matic has great potential and Ramires joining our team would really limit his game time. That would be a real waste so i would much rather spend that money on a playmaker type of player.

so you don`t want a right footed midfielder to be bought because you think he would be in direct competition with a left footed Midfielder in Matic ,who you state has great potential..of which i agree he has..

but on the other hand you want a "playmaker/midfield maestro" when we have two with great potential in Kakuta & McEachran..

Ramires would give us great flexibility and something we are short on..right footed midfielders to either play on the right side of a 3 man midfield or RM in a diamond..all of which he could play at and do well aswell as DM if he`s really needed there in the future, if injuries re-occur to Mikel and Essien.

[Mário César 1,236]

What I read about Ramires in Portuguese newspapers is that Benfica has convinced him to stay another year.

Honestly, I'd love to see Ramires to play for Chelsea. It's an excellent young player, since we need to renew the team slowly. It would be a fantastic buy.

[Pensioner1905 0]

i have bad feelings about it like it aint gonna happen..

[caesarblues 51]

Chelsea Agree Terms With Benfica Over Transfer Of Ramires - Report

The Brazilian international will switch clubs for a fee of €22 million...

By Stefan Coerts

Aug 2, 2010 9:51:00 AM

Highly rated midfielder Ramires is continually being linked with a move away from Benfica since his good performances for Brazil at the 2010 World Cup, but the reigning Portuguese champions appeared to be reluctant to let go of the 23-year-old.

The Aguias have now apparently changed their mind though, as a report in Record suggests that Benfica have reached an agreement with English powerhouse Chelsea over the transfer of the former Cruzeiro star. The Blues will reportedly pay a fee of €22 million to secure the services of the Brazil international.

Benfica recently sold 50 per cent of the player's rights to an investment group for a fee of €6m, meaning that they will only get €11m from the fee Chelsea pay. However, they only paid a reported €7m fee for Ramires to Cruzeiro a year ago and will thus still make a €10m profit on the young midfielder.

Ramires was left out of Benfica's starting XI in their 4-1 friendly win against Aston Villa on Sunday in order not to take any unnecessary risks with the upcoming transfer in the back of their minds.

Both clubs involved in the transfer have yet to confirm the transfer, but an official statement from Benfica is expected to be released later on Monday.

-goal.com-

[Madmax 9,219]

Chelsea Agree Terms With Benfica Over Transfer Of Ramires - Report

The Brazilian international will switch clubs for a fee of €22 million...

By Stefan Coerts

Aug 2, 2010 9:51:00 AM

-goal.com-

WOOT!

[DYC. 7,542]

so you don`t want a right footed midfielder to be bought because you think he would be in direct competition with a left footed Midfielder in Matic ,who you state has great potential..of which i agree he has..

but on the other hand you want a "playmaker/midfield maestro" when we have two with great potential in Kakuta & McEachran..

Ramires would give us great flexibility and something we are short on..right footed midfielders to either play on the right side of a 3 man midfield or RM in a diamond..all of which he could play at and do well aswell as DM if he`s really needed there in the future, if injuries re-occur to Mikel and Essien.

No you're getting me wrong, I'm talking about a diffrent midfield-three. I'm talking about a DM, CM and AM midfield, much like the midfield of our 2009/2010 FA Youth Cup team. Or think about our own mifield back when Makalele was still with us (Make DM, Ess CM, Lamps AM).

That way you have Essien and Mikel for the DM role, Lamps and Matic for the CM role and no one for the AM role (well nobody who is good enough right now).

About Kakuta & McEachran,

Kakuta should play on the wings. He's a dribbler and putting a dribbler in a central role doesn't work in modern football. There's just no space for them and that's why a central role is suited for a player who'd rather go for a pass than try to beat a man. Coming from the wings he would be so much more effective.

I know he has played a lot of games as a attacking midfielder in the youth and reserves but that only worked because he is well ahead of his years. He can play any attacking position on that level because he is just so much better than the rest.

McEachran isn't first XI material for like 4, 5 years. And getting an experienced AM (25-28) would be perfect so McEachran could take his spot when he's ready. I probably should have mentioned my view about that in my post but i already mentioned it in many other posts.

[chrismada9 1,948]

Chelsea Agree Terms With Benfica Over Transfer Of Ramires - Report

The Brazilian international will switch clubs for a fee of €22 million...

By Stefan Coerts

Aug 2, 2010 9:51:00 AM

-goal.com-

I guess that's good news.... but something tells me there's a twist to this. The FA are not going to like our activity with a third party group! :unsure:

Edited August 2, 2010 by CJ Revo

[Badboy 1,526]

No you're getting me wrong, I'm talking about a diffrent midfield-three. I'm talking about a DM, CM and AM midfield, much like the midfield of our 2009/2010 FA Youth Cup team. Or think about our own mifield back when Makalele was still with us (Make DM, Ess CM, Lamps AM).

That way you have Essien and Mikel for the DM role, Lamps and Matic for the CM role and no one for the AM role (well nobody who is good enough right now).

About Kakuta & McEachran,

Kakuta should play on the wings. He's a dribbler and putting a dribbler in a central role doesn't work in modern football. There's just no space for them and that's why a central role is suited for a player who'd rather go for a pass than try to beat a man. Coming from the wings he would be so much more effective.

I know he has played a lot of games as a attacking midfielder in the youth and reserves but that only worked because he is well ahead of his years. He can play any attacking position on that level because he is just so much better than the rest.

Kaka is a dribble that plays in central position.His main skill is his passing ability, his incredible balance while dribbling is a bonus. I really think ramires coming to the club will take the burden off essien, in terms of pace in midfield.

Edited August 2, 2010 by Badboy

[Manuf 1,448]

It's goal.com after all. I'm still waiting for official website to confirm.

[Randall 315]

http://www.slbenfica.pt/Informacao/Futebol/Noticias/noticiasfutebol_futlfvieiraentrevista_020810_64871.asp

Same quotes as from Goal.com, but on the benfica website.

[DavidEU 2,023]

The Brazilian Ramires is appointed on Monday as the club's exit, but Luis Filipe Vieira has not confirmed this, although he remembered that it is a case not only depends on Benfica. "There is nothing on the time you're here. The only thing that Benfica have to understand is that the case of Ramirez does not depend solely on us. We have one partner, we are credible and we must respect the contracts, but this does not invalidate that Benfica did not make every possible effort to maintain Ramires, "said Vieira, ensuring that the Club is ready for any scenario:" The market is always open for Benfica and if it turns out we have to replace it. There is very worrying for us because everywhere are referenced with players. "

Benfica website.

[Jose M 140]

The Brazilian Ramires is appointed on Monday as the club's exit, but Luis Filipe Vieira has not confirmed this, although he remembered that it is a case not only depends on Benfica. "There is nothing on the time you're here. The only thing that Benfica have to understand is that the case of Ramirez does not depend solely on us. We have one partner, we are credible and we must respect the contracts, but this does not invalidate that Benfica did not make every possible effort to maintain Ramires, "said Vieira, ensuring that the Club is ready for any scenario:" The market is always open for Benfica and if it turns out we have to replace it. There is very worrying for us because everywhere are referenced with players. "

Benfica website.

Thi doesnt really make much sense what exactly does this mean??