Pizy 18,994 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 19 minutes ago, Jason said: That midfield three will get overrun defensively. It could spell trouble defensively, yes, but we see with all of the great Europe that if you dominate the ball it sort of masks defensive weaknesses. Barca for instance don't play with a pure DM. Nor do Real Madrid or PSG. They have players who can put in a shift defensively when necessary but their teams keep the ball so well that opponents don't get many opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 38 minutes ago, Pizy said: It could spell trouble defensively, yes, but we see with all of the great Europe that if you dominate the ball it sort of masks defensive weaknesses. Barca for instance don't play with a pure DM. Nor do Real Madrid or PSG. They have players who can put in a shift defensively when necessary but their teams keep the ball so well that opponents don't get many opportunities. It's easy to say that on paper but not easy to implement it on the pitch. Sure, Barcelona do not play with a typical defensive midfielder but they do have Busquets who helps shield their defence and team in midfield. PSG have Motta and Matuidi - two combative, physical players who are way different than those you put in the midfield. Madrid don't necessarily play with a defensive midfielder but look where has that got them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfcs most wanted 657 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Better off buying Koke than Pjanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea4 1,521 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 34 minutes ago, cfcs most wanted said: Better off buying Koke than Pjanic No,Pjanic would be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 Why's that??? 5 minutes ago, Chelsea4 said: No,Pjanic would be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 No,Pjanic would be better. Gotta disagree with you there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,994 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 1 hour ago, Jason said: It's easy to say that on paper but not easy to implement it on the pitch. Sure, Barcelona do not play with a typical defensive midfielder but they do have Busquets who helps shield their defence and team in midfield. PSG have Motta and Matuidi - two combative, physical players who are way different than those you put in the midfield. Madrid don't necessarily play with a defensive midfielder but look where has that got them. On paper, Nainggolan could be our Busquets, Cesc our Rakitic, and Pjanic our Iniesta. A shield/worker and two magicians. A bit like Conte had with Vidal, Pogba, and Pirlo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea4 1,521 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 31 minutes ago, the wes said: Why's that??? 9 minutes ago, iseah100 said: Gotta disagree with you there. Pjanic does more in attack and thats what we need.Pjanic has this season scored 11 goals and has 9 assists and why would we pay over 50m for Koke? He is good but it would be stupid to pay over 50m for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 £60 000 per week in wages is surely not right ? Just made the whole thing unreasonable and doubtful when I read this. Party pooped out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea4 1,521 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, Blue Colored Sky said: £60 000 per week in wages is surely not right ? Just made the whole thing unreasonable and doubtful when I read this. Party pooped out. Roma financially is not strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 26 minutes ago, Chelsea4 said: Pjanic does more in attack and thats what we need.Pjanic has this season scored 11 goals and has 9 assists and why would we pay over 50m for Koke? He is good but it would be stupid to pay over 50m for him. I know were your coming from mate but if u want the best players at your club u have to pay the money for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea4 1,521 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 6 minutes ago, the wes said: I know were your coming from mate but if u want the best players at your club u have to pay the money for them Yes,but he is not worth that money and he is not even one of best players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,092 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 35 minutes ago, Chelsea4 said: Yes,but he is not worth that money and he is not even one of best players. The stories we're hearing smack of an agent working overtime to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,069 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Him to replace Oscar would be fine business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 2 hours ago, LAM09 said: Him to replace Oscar would be fine business your 100% rite mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 5 hours ago, Pizy said: On paper, Nainggolan could be our Busquets, Cesc our Rakitic, and Pjanic our Iniesta. A shield/worker and two magicians. A bit like Conte had with Vidal, Pogba, and Pirlo. But Nainggolan is more a B2B midfielder rather than a midfield protector like Busquets. You know that. All the 3 that you named like to get forward and they are different from the Juventus trio you mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 6 hours ago, Pizy said: On paper, Nainggolan could be our Busquets, Cesc our Rakitic, and Pjanic our Iniesta. A shield/worker and two magicians. A bit like Conte had with Vidal, Pogba, and Pirlo. does conte not normally play with a deep role playmaker in his formations like he did with pirlo??? who would play deep role playmaker with that trio?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,994 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, the wes said: does conte not normally play with a deep role playmaker in his formations like he did with pirlo??? who would play deep role playmaker with that trio?? Fabregas. It's his best position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 1 minute ago, Pizy said: Fabregas. It's his best position. i was thinking that myself i like to see chelsea going back into the 4-3-3 formation again i would sell oscar to balance the books theres no need for him if we do play the 4-3-3 formation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 There's no way we can play Pjanic AND Fabregas together..that'd be a defensive nightmare. Hopefully this means the club is already looking to move on from Cesc, which would be a great sign. I thank him for his vital performances last season in firing us to the title. But Fabregas is our version of Man United's RVP. He helped for one season, but then became a massive liability the following season when the going got tough. I know this comes across as being the 'ol' fickle fan' (and admittedly, Cesc has been playing well this second half of the season), but we simply cannot go on having physically immobile players run our midfield. Chelsea seriously need to find midfielders in the molds of Ballack/Lampard and Essien...or like (Toure/Payet/Silva/Ozil) . Players who are dynamic both physically and technically. I'm not even sure I necessarily want Pjanic either, because again, he has the same physical limitations as Cesc. He'll easily get bullied off the ball time and time again. (If someone who watches AS Roma often knows more, i'm all ease.) At the end of the day, too many of our midfielders are too limited. Cesc get's easily flustered when he's pressed. Oscar's touch is poor, and get's bullied physically too often. Matic takes wayyy too much time to make his mind up when on the ball, and his positioning has been erratic all season. Hazard/Willian/Mikel (at times) are the only complete midfielders we have, for they can all pass, and can keep possession under pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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