bombayblue™ 55 Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Does anyone honestly think that the club signed Kakuta knowing full well he was under some contract that would wind us up in trouble?Of course they didn't, Chelsea will have done what they did believing that they had the right to. Everyone likes a scapegoat and Frank Arnesen seems to be easy pickings. Fact it is looks like we are being punished for something that isn't even clear if we did anything wrong. And even if we DID the punishment is not in proportion to the crime.Excellent Post Esk..As far as I'm concerned, whilst Arnesen picks up his £50,000 a week wage-packet, its the academy coaches who develop these players, not him.yeah but had Arnesen not being doing his job, we'd not have players of this high talent to develop, at all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 It's actually true, should we lose the appeal our band can be extended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kez 2,727 Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Where's the justice in that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaChick 430 Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 thats fucking ridiculous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diskoviolente 425 Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 it appears to me that this story will cost Chelsea Football Club so much.Carlo tries to give us a new appearance, humble and dedicated...and out of nothing FIFA/UEFA spills out it´s hatred for us and tries to ruin us.i am not too concerned about this season, more over next season if the ban is not reduced to this year.and for the ACON time the teams we´ve to play against there are doable without our African boys... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanSnake 1,211 Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 I knew something like extending something after a unsucessful apeal happens in other certain things in the world, but in a sport like football, seems kind of unjustified. I think it mostly happens with prisoners, doesn't it? If so then that's what we have been treated like, and if not, then we are being treated worse then actually criminals, totally unjustful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanSnake 1,211 Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 This is what old-chairman Ken Bates had to say about the whole thing(in general, not just about Chelsea):<h1 class="main-headline">Bates slams transfer policy</h1> Leeds chairman criticises big clubs in the transfer marketFormer Chelsea chairman Ken Bates has slammed the way big clubs pinch rising stars from other teams. The Blues were hit this week as Fifa banned them fromsigning any players during the next two transfer windows after theypoached teenager Gael Kakuta from Lens in 2007 - a decision the Stamford Bridge outfit will appeal.Bates, current Leeds chairman, won a reported £5million compensation in 2006 after Chelsea signed youngsters Michael Woods and Tom Taiwo from the Whites, and he criticised the methods that top clubs use in recruiting promising talent."The problem here is that the big clubs are stripping the small clubs of their youngsters," Bates told the Daily Mail."They are like Japanese fishing trawlers, just sweeping up everything in their nets."Right now some of these boys are just being traded like horsemeat."Source: SkySportsThey did the same with Febian Delph and Bradford. In the end they had to do something like giving Bradford money from when he left for Villa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Its like red cards.If you appeal and loose then you get an extra ban..which makes you think what is the bloody point in even trying?!Makes little sense and is unjust and if they do it to us..god help them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Ken Bates can fuck off, his club are notorious for poaching players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea_4_eva 1,182 Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 can you add platini to that....<H1 itxtvisited="1">UEFA President Michel Platini Endorses FIFA's Sanctions Against Chelsea</H1>Chelsea's FIFA-imposed transfer embargo has received backing from Platini... FIFA's decision to slap Chelsea with a ban from entering the transfer market for the next two windows - applicable until January 2011 - for their apparent poaching of French teenager Gael Kakuta, has received the support of UEFA president Michel Platini who has long opposed the transfers of younger players.The west London side, as well as Kakuta, were also handed penalty fines for their involvement in the affair.Platini, speaking to The Sun, explained that he supports any sanctions imposed on offenders, as the transfers, and the tapping-up of, youngsters must cease to exist. "It's a Fifa decision but we're interested in what happens. It is necessary to make rules in the transfer market of young players. I say this not because Chelsea or another team is involved, but the illegal traffic of young players has to be stopped."According to Sky Sports, Chelsea could also find themselves in further hot water for the manner in which they attempted to sign 11-year-old Jeremy Boga, who spent five years with amateur French club ASPTT Marseille.Alan Dawson, Goal.com UK<BR itxtvisited="1"> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kez 2,727 Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Platini backing Chelsea punishment? Shocking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/football/490423/Chelsea-transfer-ban.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 (edited) THE Dane at the centre of the Chelsea poaching storm has courted controversy since arriving in 2005, when Tottenham claimed he was approached illegally. The Blues ended up paying £5million compensation.2006: Chelsea accused of tapping-up Leeds' Michael Woods and Tom Taiwo. Pay £5m out of court. 2006: Arnesen (right) secretly filmed by the BBC offering £150,000 to Nathan Porritt, 15. The player was attached to Middlesbrough. 2007: Relationship with manager Jose Mourinho breaks down and is reportedly close to leaving Stamford Bridge. Instead, Mourinho leaves in September. 2008: Reggina report Chelsea to Italian FA, claiming contact with Vincenzo Camilleri before he was 16. 2009: Arnesen promoted to role of sporting director at Stamford Bridge. newsoftheworld Edited September 5, 2009 by the wes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 THE Dane at the centre of the Chelsea poaching storm has courted controversy since arriving in 2005, when Tottenham claimed he was approached illegally. The Blues ended up paying £5million compensation.2006: Chelsea accused of tapping-up Leeds' Michael Woods and Tom Taiwo. Pay £5m out of court. 2006: Arnesen (right) secretly filmed by the BBC offering £150,000 to Nathan Porritt, 15. The player was attached to Middlesbrough. 2007: Relationship with manager Jose Mourinho breaks down and is reportedly close to leaving Stamford Bridge. Instead, Mourinho leaves in September. 2008: Reggina report Chelsea to Italian FA, claiming contact with Vincenzo Camilleri before he was 16. 2009: Arnesen promoted to role of sporting director at Stamford Bridge. NewsoftheworldArnesen needs to go from day one i hate this cunt........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 </h3><h3>FORMER Chelsea rookie Phil Younghusband believes the Blues' transfer ban was on the cards.Younghusband was released last year having been with the Stamford Bridge outfit since the The striker, who played in the reserves, said: "When I heard the news of Chelsea's punishment, it didn't surprise me. "As first-year pros, the English lads in the squad earned £200 a week, whereas the foreign lads coming into the set-up were on £2,000 a month. "But to entice the best foreign youngsters, you need to lure them in and offer them something they can't refuse - after all they are on their own away from home. This did create talk among the English lads, obviously, because we knew there was a big difference in the pay but we accepted it. "It was something we spoke about amongst ourselves but it never affected us on the pitch or caused cliques."Now 22, Younghusband has relocated to the Philippines - the birthplace of his mum - and become a TV star and model. The man dubbed 'The Filipino Beckham' added: "I will always have the highest regard for Chelsea. "My association with them made me a star in my mother's homeland. "Because of my unique looks and skills, I have got all sorts of exposure in the entertainment business."Newsoftheworld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Time to sort out Money-Grabbers from Dedicated players.bullshit!all the best players in the world are money grabbers, and it's not a bad thing.anyone with ambition in life wants more money! not just footballers and anyway look how much terry demands from us in wages LMAO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caesarblues 51 Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 (edited) Q: What is the allegation against Chelsea?A: Fifa claim they offered inducements to French teenager Gael Kakuta to break his contract and join Chelsea when he was 16 years old in 2007.Q: What is the punishment?A: Chelsea were ordered to pay Lens 130,000 euros (£113,000) “training compensation” for Kakuta, who had been attached to the French club’s academy since the age of eight while the player himself has been banned from playing football for four months and given a 780,000 euro (£682,000) fine. Of greatest significance, FIFA have banned Chelsea from signing players in the next two transfer windows (January 2010 and from the end of the 2009-10 season until September 1). Q: Can the club appeal?A: Yes - and they intend to launch what they describe “the strongest appeal possible” at the Court of Arbitration for Sport in Lausanne. Having reached its verdict Fifa will now send out documentation to Chelsea in the next two weeks, detailing its evidence, with the club having a further 21 days to appeal.Q: What does this mean for the existing players?A: If the ban is upheld, it is far less likely that Chelsea will sell any of their existing squad, even though it is an ageing team. It also places those who are due for contract negotiations in a stronger position. Talks are about to start with Joe Cole, whose contract expires at the end of the season, while Michael Ballack has only signed a one-year addition to his contract. The transfer ban could indirectly help both players in negotiations with the club. There might also be a knock-on impact for the players due to be involved in the African Cup of Nations. Didier Drogba, Salomon Kalou and Michael Essien are all potentially involved next January, but Chelsea could try and encourage those players to stay in England and help the club.Q: What does it mean for Peter Kenyon and Frank Arnesen? A: It is not the first time that Chelsea’s recruitment process has been questioned. Remember Ashley Cole? Attention will now focus on the roles played by Kenyon, the chief executive, and Arnesen, who was chief scout. François Collado, the now-retired former general manager at Lens, claims that he warned Chelsea that what they were doing was against the rules. "When I met with Kenyon and Arnesen at Chelsea I took the contract,” he said. “I told Kenyon, 'You're risking a fine and a transfer ban'. I explained the Fifa rules to him. Kenyon spoke with Arnesen and he said they were sure of their intentions. They proposed a ridiculous fee. I said I'll leave you and if you're sure then I'll go to Fifa and we'll see if you're not sanctioned. They said there would be no need for another meeting.”Q: Has this happened before?A: Swiss club FC Sion received a transfer ban in April over the way they recruited Egypt goalkeeper Essam El Hadary from Al-Ahly. Sion have appealed, and the ban has been frozen pending a decision. The freezing of the ban meant that Sion were able to operate in the most recent transfer window.Q: Can Chelsea now bring in some loan signings?A: No - the ban prevents them from registering any new player, even on loan. Q: Can they bring their on-loan players back?A: Yes, because the players are already registered with them. At present, Jack Cork, Liam Bridcutt, Shaun Cummings, Jacob Mellis, Patrick Van Aanholt, Scott Sinclair, Franco Di Santo, Lee Sawyer, Ryan Bertrand and Tom Taiwo are among those at various clubs around England. Edited September 6, 2009 by caesarblues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanSnake 1,211 Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Younghusband shouldn't even be considered a fucking footballer. From what i've heard, he's just a model who played for our reserves and does fuck all now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanSnake 1,211 Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Have Chelsea sacked him yet?We shouldn't defiantely after the appeal judgement, no matter if we win or not, it's his fault all this was started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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