Chelsea 0-2 Man City

[robsblubot 3,508]

3 minutes ago, Mhsc said:

Promising signs, I trust Maresca to know what to do to make us play better in the second half. Thought Enzo was poor and I don't think it had anything to do with the position he was playing - simply failed at the basics of football all half. No first touch, no composure.

The position where Enzo plays IS the most difficult position to play because it’s in contested areas of the pitch. It’s much easier to have a touch and pass much deeper with a lot more time on the ball.

[OneMoSalah 8,778]

8 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

Nonsense, he should be playing deeper.

Perhaps but at same time he lacks that positional sense to play as a 6 though. He is not a 10 though absolutely not. If Lavia is going to stay fit and do as he’s done all pre-season and today, he won’t be missing out.

Also his athleticism is an issue, the amount of times he lost runners due to this under Potter, Lampard and Poch was unreal.

Edited August 18 by OneMoSalah

[YorkshireBlue 3,122]

3 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Disagree completely. When he’s deeper and acting as the fulcrum linking the attack and defense he plays those brilliant passes. That’s his specialty. We need him deeper where he can have time in the ball and have all the play in front of him.

This continued experiment where he’s often the highest player in the attack is silly and making people think he’s shit. He’s not. He’s being used terribly.

Him playing as the #10 where he’s got two CB right behind him and the midfield right in front of him contesting the space he clearly struggles.

He can't tackle he can't track back and his break up play is shocking, if the only value he has sitting back is passing from deep, that isn't good enough, it's not shock when he got injured last season and Connor came in, we were a much better team

Edited August 18 by YorkshireBlue

[zinctek 462]

2 minutes ago, Nero said:

FUCK TAYLOR.

FUCK THIS CUNT.

FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUU

Taylor didnt do to much wrong to be fair? not sure why you are saying this

[Vesper 28,856]

5 minutes ago, IMissEden said:

The majority of players I’d expect to fail to maintain their level with the club being so dramatic, immature and stupid. Players are in tune. It’s not a fun time to play for cfc whatsoever. 

none of that has to do with his agression when he is on the ball and in a position of threat

[zinctek 462]

Just now, Vesper said:

none of that has to do with his agression when he is on the ball and in a position of threat

if your talking about Enzo your right - he just hasnt got it for the prem. maybe spain or germany but its not working with him. and he has no excuse now with having the op.

[robsblubot 3,508]

Injuries take a toll esp bad ones which demand a long ass recovery time. 

[Pizy 18,368]

1 minute ago, YorkshireBlue said:

He can't tackle he can't track back and his break up play is shocking, if the only value he has sitting back is passing from deep, that isn't good enough

I would try Enzo as the deepest midfielder instead of Lavia. Use the super athleticism and energy of Lavia and Caicedo slightly higher up aggressively pressing to protect Enzo a bit.

Basically what I’m saying is to treat Enzo EXACTLY like we did Jorginho to great effect. Super deep pinging the ball around and controlling the whole game with two super athletes beside him (Kante & Kova back then).

[Nero 1,838]

Sky Sports don’t even talk about the penalties

Fucking cunts

Edited August 18 by Nero

[Vesper 28,856]

Foden on

[robsblubot 3,508]

Gotta shoot more after what we saw from Ederson. 

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

Thats the good old sanchez we know and love.

[Pizy 18,368]

Look at Enzo playing as the highest player still…

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[DH1988 1,273]

Cant fault Enzo's work ethic today he's been everywhere, #10 just doesn't work for him.

[IMissEden 20]

Enzo would be fine and thriving for Madrid, for City. 2+2. It’s an issue re approach. He suits a traditional setup ie one which dominates. He fits a team that dominates possession, or chances. Metronomic players, to eye of the needle ones, aren’t going to show use that often if instructed to do anything beyond what Kroos was doing, Pirlo before him, Fabregas if you want to though he was trained a certain way, resulting in a unique profile. Enzo is a hybrid really of these players, in profile. Why on earth measure him while either playing as a SS, or in a midfield built out of jelly that would not be able to protect Kroos properly. 
 

If he was afforded being in a side where players are on top form - Benfica, seen it, Argentina seen it, next club will see it again - with guile in their style as ethos — you know, top functional teams —- you get one of the best players at timing passes, seeing passes, getting the ball where it needs to be on the pitch, knowing before anyone else where the momentum is shifting. A pretty traditional playmaker, who is not supposed to be tackling, yet that is being highlighted as a weakness - christ. A better understanding is, he is unable to play the role he was playing before here, as here, he doesn’t get the protection to. That is not on him. It is on fans once again not knowing X from Y in making sweeping assessments of players. 
 

He remains misused like more than a couple players at the club, asked to do new things alongside profiles which don’t compliment what’s been recruited. Nkunku will soon be flavour of the month for misunderstanding the same way. It is clear what Enzo can do, and clear that different teams have different abilities in emphasising or nullifying xyz profile. Conflating that with an agenda that he himself is an avg player is stupid. He has an amazing footballing brain. Like Nkunku. Easier to do well here if less accustomed to higher standards. All players we recruit from better situations, falter here. They adjust. Rotten apples spoil the fresh ones fast. The order of things is wrong, the design of things is wrong. Fans will mistake more than just 2 very good players, as not very good, during this era. 

Edited August 18 by IMissEden

[Vesper 28,856]

good save

[DH1988 1,273]

- Nkunku invisible, Jackson in his way, vice versa

- Enzo #10 not working

- Palmer invisible 

[DH1988 1,273]

Change it up.