The Next Manager?

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Stop lying you knee jerking piece of shit. You would have never made this thread if Chelsea had won 3-0 and you know it.

Football fans are fickle. I can't recall the opening poster making any anti-Mourinho threads as we waltzed our way to a double last season.

[DYC. 7,542]

Batman.

[Spike 12,049]

For a thread that is meant to be constructive there has been a worrying lack of evidence, reasoning and analysis as to why 'X' should be manager and why 'Y' shouldn't be manager. Thus so far there has been arguments such as 'I like X manager' and 'I think Y manager shouldn't be here'. Statements like that don't really build much other than stating preference.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

Football fans are fickle. I can't recall the opening poster making any anti-Mourinho threads as we waltzed our way to a double last season.

He won the league at record point at Madrid as well, a year later he was dumped. A week is a long time in football, you can win the league one season but if you don't attempt to move on you get left behind as we are now. Mancini won the league 11-12, sacked a year later. Don't pretend this is something outrageous when it is perfectly normal in modern football.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Okay. I take that back then. From your post it seemed as if you were being critical of people who you can identify as being pro-Mourinho. I'm pro-Mourinho, because a; he's the best manager in the world, and b; because he's the Chelsea boss. Make of that what you will. I don't think he deserves half the flack he's getting.

Shame some of Mourinho's fans aren't as balanced and sensible as you are. Anyway, I think the mods need to be on full alert on this thread. Emotions are bound to run high, and so are petty insults.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

For a thread that is meant to be constructive there has been a worrying lack of evidence, reasoning and analysis as to why 'X' should be manager and why 'Y' shouldn't be manager. Thus so far there has been arguments such as 'I like X manager' and 'I think Y manager shouldn't be here'. Statements like that don't really build much other than stating preference.

It is a start, someone stating their preference and then will eventually go indepth into the reason why. I don't think this would have been appropiate to discuss in the Mourinho thread as it is too broad of a subject, most of it might not even be focussed on him.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

Shame some of Mourinho's fans aren't as balanced and sensible as you are. Anyway, I think the mods need to be on full alert on this thread. Emotions are bound to run high, and so are petty insults.

I'm not a Chelsea fan because I support JM too. How fucking insulting. He is synonymous with this club and likely always will be, in the hall of fame along side Frank, Terry, Cudicini, Bonetti etc.

@Special Juan can I like report this guy please he is clearly looking for a reaction from anyone that does not hate Jose.

[Adnane 1,101]

May 2015 - Champions.

August 2015 - Mourinho has run out of ideas, he can't take his team forward any longer.

Golden.

[MefiX19 1,092]

He plays with the team or only add few players in his 1st season, then in 2nd he builds the team that win the league, and in 3rd season he thinks that he have good squad and continues with that squad and fails.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

May 2015 - Champions.

August 2015 - Mourinho has run out of ideas, he can't take his team forward any longer.

Golden.

3 months is a long time in football. MU won the league at a CANTER as well in 12-13, 3 months later started their worst season in recent history. We won't go the same way but we will struggle to compete for the title, this is a significant change from a year ago when we walked it.

[yuvala 2,167]

3 months is a long time in football. MU won the league at a CANTER as well in 12-13, 3 months later started their worst season in recent history. We won't go the same way but we will struggle to compete for the title, this is a significant change from a year ago when we walked it.

Maybe.

So what are we gonna do? fire Jose come Winter ?

No, we're gonna get our shit together, support the manager and the players and bounce back.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

3 months is a long time in football. MU won the league at a CANTER as well in 12-13, 3 months later started their worst season in recent history. We won't go the same way but we will struggle to compete for the title, this is a significant change from a year ago when we walked it.

That was different. Their team was finished, David Moyes was the unfortunate guy that had to rebuild an entire team and get the results in the mean time. Impossible.

I KNOW we were shit today, and there are many reasons why. We missed Oscar, BADLY. I think he would have opted against Fabregas and Ramires if he was available. Souness on Sky said it best. In the second half he was making a statement to the board. "I need more players." Look at the bench we had today. Blackman, Zouma, RLC, Cuadrado, Falcao, Remy, Mikel. He has no options. He can't NOT play Ivanovic, there are no alternatives. He can't change the game in any way. And he only had a suspension and an injury. The best he can do is throw on Zouma in midfield and change to ultra defensive mode.

I'm worried, however. Hazard looks like he left his talent boots hanging up in the dressing room today. Costa looks like Drogba last season atm (alright fair enough he should have won us a red card for Fernandinho's elbow), Fabregas looks like he's lost that final ball completely. City knew how to dominate us, you can't knock them for it, they knew that if they press that right hand side of Iva, Cesc (who when pressed becomes useless), Willian we collapse. Fantastic tactical job.

But in all fairness, we didn't look that bad in the second half. 2 defensive errors made it look much worse than it was, had we not conceded further I'd say it'd be a positive to take away.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

Maybe.

So what are we gonna do? fire Jose come Winter ?

No, we're gonna get our shit together, support the manager and the players and bounce back.

Yep that is my preferred solution too, lets make a couple of solid signings and unite again behind the scene to correct our wrong. But that has been proven to not be how Jose usually handle these things in the past, so surely you must have some doubt as well?

Like I said, I will be happily be proven wrong and looks like a mug by 2 months when we have just won our 10th game on the bounce after this debacle, but somehow I don't think so. Also don't think we will fire Jose but if the pressure and bad results keep on happening, he will start to cause fire which might makes his position untenable at some point which forces the club to find a 'mutual separation' again with him.

[Spike 12,049]

@CurlyHairLikeLuiz, Oh you are back...

[yuvala 2,167]

Yep that is my preferred solution too, lets make a couple of solid signings and unite again behind the scene to correct our wrong. But that has been proven to not be how Jose usually handle these things in the past, so surely you must have some doubt as well?

Like I said, I will be happily be proven wrong and looks like a mug by 2 months when we have just won our 10th game on the bounce after this debacle, but somehow I don't think so. Also don't think we will fire Jose but if the pressure and bad results keep on happening, he will start to cause fire which might makes his position untenable at some point which forces the club to find a 'mutual separation' again with him.

Yea, that might be the case.

Hopefuly it wont be..

[empire of emotions 247]

give ranieri for the full circle

[the wes 7,212]

serious lads i cant believe people are talking this way already instead bad mouthing mourinho get behind the team

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

That was different. Their team was finished, David Moyes was the unfortunate guy that had to rebuild an entire team and get the results in the mean time. Impossible.

I KNOW we were shit today, and there are many reasons why. We missed Oscar, BADLY. I think he would have opted against Fabregas and Ramires if he was available. Souness on Sky said it best. In the second half he was making a statement to the board. "I need more players." Look at the bench we had today. Blackman, Zouma, RLC, Cuadrado, Falcao, Remy, Mikel. He has no options. He can't NOT play Ivanovic, there are no alternatives. He can't change the game in any way. And he only had a suspension and an injury. The best he can do is throw on Zouma in midfield and change to ultra defensive mode.

I'm worried, however. Hazard looks like he left his talent boots hanging up in the dressing room today. Costa looks like Drogba last season atm (alright fair enough he should have won us a red card for Fernandinho's elbow), Fabregas looks like he's lost that final ball completely. City knew how to dominate us, you can't knock them for it, they knew that if they press that right hand side of Iva, Cesc (who when pressed becomes useless), Willian we collapse. Fantastic tactical job.

But in all fairness, we didn't look that bad in the second half. 2 defensive errors made it look much worse than it was, had we not conceded further I'd say it'd be a positive to take away.

And THAT IS THE PROBLEM RIGHT THERE, you said he tried to make a point with the board, what IF THE BOARD WON'T ACKNOWLEDGE IT? it happened in 06-07, where he started using press conference to basically criticise the board for not giving him good enough signings(eggs and stuff remember) and a few weeks later he was gone. Maybe the same might happen again? Obviously this might not be an issue and we go out and sign Pedro, Baba and Stones by the end of next week but that seems more fantasy football than real life.

I agree there is something fundamentally wrong with the club but it isn't just Jose, but a cumulative of issues with players, the board being tie ass and others. But Jose didn't help it by starting more fire last week, that is why atm I can see it heading down that dark path so often as it has with him in the past.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

@CurlyHairLikeLuiz, Oh you are back...

Not excited? :D

@We Hate Scouse you won the bet on when I'd be back hahaha

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

And THAT IS THE PROBLEM RIGHT THERE, you said he tried to make a point with the board, what IF THE BOARD WON'T ACKNOWLEDGE IT? it happened in 06-07, where he started using press conference to basically criticise the board for not giving him good enough signings(eggs and stuff remember) and a few weeks later he was gone. Maybe the same might happen again? Obviously this might not be an issue and we go out and sign Pedro, Baba and Stones by the end of next week but that seems more fantasy football than real life.

I agree there is something fundamentally wrong with the club but it isn't just Jose, but a cumulative of issues with players, the board being tie ass and others. But Jose didn't help it by starting more fire last week, that is why atm I can see it heading down that dark path so often as it has with him in the past.

Yeah if the board doesn't listen to him then he will leave. Can't really blame him for that either, the squad is too thin and it's obvious.

It has been said that he hasn't been this unhappy since the tail end of the end of his first spell here. Let's see if he rides it out.