coolhead23 1,147 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 I don't buy this at all.He gave Sam Hutchinson his first game. Scott Sinlcair, Robert Huth, Lassana Diarra (more chance than even Wenger), Scott Parker are all young players given a chance under Jose while at Chelsea. Just because they didn't break through isn't a goo enough reason to claim the Mourinho has a poor run with youth. If they didn't impress at the time they didn't. It's easy to look in hindsight due to how some of them have performed since.Even Kalou was brought in as a younger player under Mourinho and he got a lot of games.At Real Madrid, he has brought Varane to the first team. He brought in young German stars Ozil and Khedira and he has given Castilla graduate Alvaro Morata a lot of games. At Inter it was Santon and Balotelli given a chance.Mourinho is great with youth, just sometimes the academy isn't producing. He has a great eye for talent and if he thinks they aren't worth it, they aren't.There is a difference between developing a raw talent/potential into something and getting someone who is already described as a upcoming potential.Just by giving Hutchinson a start doesnt mean anything (we all thought that Sam was one of the next known thing), Ozil and Khedira were already known (United were after Ozil it was just that Jose got him first), Huth is doing pretty decent in a team like Stoke. I agree he has a great eye for talent but then the one he selects are already up there.Jose is not known as someone who would develop a young player because he doesnt stick around for long. However he once had mentioned that a Manager has to keep evolving every now and then to be at the top and i hope he comes up with something different if he is returns to the Bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FullEnglishBreakfast Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 There is a difference between developing a raw talent/potential into something and getting someone who is already described as a upcoming potential.Just by giving Hutchinson a start doesnt mean anything (we all thought that Sam was one of the next known thing), Ozil and Khedira were already known (United were after Ozil it was just that Jose got him first), Huth is doing pretty decent in a team like Stoke. I agree he has a great eye for talent but then the one he selects are already up there.Jose is not known as someone who would develop a young player because he doesnt stick around for long. However he once had mentioned that a Manager has to keep evolving every now and then to be at the top and i hope he comes up with something different if he is returns to the Bridge."There is a difference between developing a raw talent/potential into something and getting someone who is already described as a upcoming potential."This line makes absolutely no sense to me. Developing a raw talent? Someone that is described as an upcoming potential? Aren't they the same thing? It sounds like you want Mou to pick someone out of the academy that no one has heard of. But that's impossible seeing as that if they kid as any talent the daily rags would have mentioned him a dozen times. And if he wasn't heard of the minute he gets called up to the first time, he will be heard of.It doesn't matter how well known a player is, it doesn't change his potential. A kid plying his trade in the Serie B and nobody knows who he is, isn't any different to the kid everyone is drooling over at Barcelona. They could have the exact same potential...Name power has nothing to do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhead23 1,147 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 "There is a difference between developing a raw talent/potential into something and getting someone who is already described as a upcoming potential."This line makes absolutely no sense to me. Developing a raw talent? Someone that is described as an upcoming potential? Aren't they the same thing? It sounds like you want Mou to pick someone out of the academy that no one has heard of. But that's impossible seeing as that if they kid as any talent the daily rags would have mentioned him a dozen times. And if he wasn't heard of the minute he gets called up to the first time, he will be heard of.It doesn't matter how well known a player is, it doesn't change his potential. A kid plying his trade in the Serie B and nobody knows who he is, isn't any different to the kid everyone is drooling over at Barcelona. They could have the exact same potential...Name power has nothing to do with it.It doesnt makes sense to u, thats fine. I may have not been able to put my thoughts properly in words.U think Jose is good with youth, so be it. It is your opinion and i hope thats how it happens. I believe he is not and i want to be proven wrong when and if he comes to the bridge.Simple and sweet, win-win situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,573 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 I want King Carlo again.. " Cammon Chelsea " ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg 1,824 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Carlo will never comeback even if José Mourinho goes to PSG.He'll lose his pride and he is not what we need.We need Pep Guardiola, but he is not available now.Jurgen Klopp will stay, so i think we could easily say that we are screwed if José will still coach Madrid next year.I really cant find the man who will move the club forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mart 29 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Mourinho, Hiddink, or Moyes would be my picks. Don't care that Hiddink is an old man; we never hold onto managers for long, but for two or three years he could do amazing things here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadenza666 221 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 @ChelsTransferJuventus are ready to offer Conte a new contract of €5m per season plus premiums and a €20m release clause amidst #CFC interest. (calcio) @ChelsTransferChelsea offered €6.5m/year excluding bonuses to Conte which has forced #Juventus' board to try & renew his contract till 2017 #CFC (calcio)@ChelsTransfer#Juventus will also look to offer €3m in premiums to Conte related to results obtained in competitions; Conte yet to accept. #CFC (calcio) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I don't buy this at all.He gave Sam Hutchinson his first game. Scott Sinlcair, Robert Huth, Lassana Diarra (more chance than even Wenger), Scott Parker are all young players given a chance under Jose while at Chelsea. Just because they didn't break through isn't a goo enough reason to claim the Mourinho has a poor run with youth. If they didn't impress at the time they didn't. It's easy to look in hindsight due to how some of them have performed since.Even Kalou was brought in as a younger player under Mourinho and he got a lot of games.At Real Madrid, he has brought Varane to the first team. He brought in young German stars Ozil and Khedira and he has given Castilla graduate Alvaro Morata a lot of games. At Inter it was Santon and Balotelli given a chance.Mourinho is great with youth, just sometimes the academy isn't producing. He has a great eye for talent and if he thinks they aren't worth it, they aren't.You forgot about Mikel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg 1,824 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 @ChelsTransferJuventus are ready to offer Conte a new contract of €5m per season plus premiums and a €20m release clause amidst #CFC interest. (calcio) @ChelsTransferChelsea offered €6.5m/year excluding bonuses to Conte which has forced #Juventus' board to try & renew his contract till 2017 #CFC (calcio)@ChelsTransfer#Juventus will also look to offer €3m in premiums to Conte related to results obtained in competitions; Conte yet to accept. #CFC (calcio)Conte has all what he wants at Juve, money, love, success.He was a great player and now a great manager, I dont see him in England, he'll stay at Yuvé at least four years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 You forgot about Mikel!And also Santon at Inter. Jose isn't too shabby with youth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC RYAN CFC 59 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Surely it has got too be Jose ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodZola 630 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I don't buy this at all.He gave Sam Hutchinson his first game. Scott Sinlcair, Robert Huth, Lassana Diarra (more chance than even Wenger), Scott Parker are all young players given a chance under Jose while at Chelsea. Just because they didn't break through isn't a goo enough reason to claim the Mourinho has a poor run with youth. If they didn't impress at the time they didn't. It's easy to look in hindsight due to how some of them have performed since.Even Kalou was brought in as a younger player under Mourinho and he got a lot of games.At Real Madrid, he has brought Varane to the first team. He brought in young German stars Ozil and Khedira and he has given Castilla graduate Alvaro Morata a lot of games. At Inter it was Santon and Balotelli given a chance.Mourinho is great with youth, just sometimes the academy isn't producing. He has a great eye for talent and if he thinks they aren't worth it, they aren't.Detractors tend to have selective memories, lets not also forget he opted for a young relatively unknown Cech ahead of our No 1 and arguably the best keeper in the Prem at the time - Cudicini. If players have the quality and consistency in their game they will be selected, Jose had a massive decision to make but gave youth a chance and it prevailed, the rest is history - history may about to repeat itself though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Oh god, oh no. Allegri looks set to leave AC Milan at the end of the season with Rijkaard replacing him.Please please please do not hire him you Russian bartsard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Daily MailCandidates are now being discussed by the board, with chairman Bruce Buck and chief executive Ron Gourlay leading the search — although Abramovich will have the final say.God Preserve Us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Gino 377 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Daily MailCandidates are now being discussed by the board, with chairman Bruce Buck and chief executive Ron Gourlay leading the search — although Abramovich will have the final say.God Preserve UsSo then there was no pre agreement with Mourinho then. Just more speculation fueled by Jose's fondness for England that the media ran with. I should have known better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg 1,824 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Oh god, oh no. Allegri looks set to leave AC Milan at the end of the season with Rijkaard replacing him.Please please please do not hire him you Russian bartsard.Max Allegri can do the job, I really think that, he his a good coach, not a special coach, but we can win with him.He is intelligent, good tactician, and he has the worst Milan squad since a lot of time but still could finish 2nd this season !He got the best of Ibrahimovic and dealt with big egos to win the title, got the respect of the Nesta, Ambrosini, Seedorf ... dealt with average players and found the perfect chemistry at Milan,He turned things around this season and i'm really proud of his achievements at Milan.He can fix us defensively, but dont expect us to play beatiful football next season.I trust him more than Pellegrini, of course I'm talking in case of José still at Madrid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 So then there was no pre agreement with Mourinho then. Just more speculation fueled by Jose's fondness for England that the media ran with. I should have known better.Hard to tell Gino -it is the Daily Mail and our club will always try to out do the ridiculous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,536 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 It does seem a case of throw out as many names as possible then the papers can go ahhhhhh I was right...Gana end up a case of pick out the hat..probably a lot easier!Moyles being rumoured again...then again we seemed to be linked with Managers for a while then they come out and real say 'no'...then the stories move onto someone else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 De allegri is also not afraid of giving the youngsters a chance,See shaarawy,niang,de sciglio etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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