Hutcho 8,443 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Well looking at things realistically. I can't see him at real at the end of the season meaning he will probably be back in england next season.Now as for the who: It will be one of:Chelsea - Has history with us, loves the club, fans, the issue could be the roman factorMan city - With the exception of him having history with us, they have the same sort of model as us and can buy like we can etc.Arsenal - Doesn't have the money to improve the squad he would like and can't see him wanting to fight for top 4 and domestic comps wheras with everyone else he can challenge for the leagueTottenham - Can't see them getting rid of AVB especially if he gets them top 4.Utd - Somewhere that is successful and has a great team however i can't see them sacking fergie and i don't think he is gonna quit yet.So that means its us or city. Now we want him more, but does roman want him. I am sure he would love to come back to the bridge but again, does roman want it? City may be the easier option for him, however we may be the preffered option. Also as some people have said, london is better than manchester and probably more preferable for him to love there. Especially as he has a home here etc. A lot of this is more hope than judgement but i will be optimistic and i reckon we will get top 4, rafa will be sacked, mourinho will be hired. Lampy will get a new deal. We will win the champs league, and he will retire with the winning goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Still can't see Jose returning here, tbh, because that would have to mean:1) RA admitting he was wrong to fire him in 2007. And in my experience, rich, powerful men, don't like doing that. 2) He will be given time, money and control. Highly unlikely, imo. He doesn't have to admit he was wrong. He doesn't have to do anything. Its not like we haven't been successful since he left. And he won't know how much time he gets until it is up. Money he will definitely be given and considering the lack of alternative options, control is something that he should be given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 He doesn't have to admit he was wrong. He doesn't have to do anything. Its not like we haven't been successful since he left. And he won't know how much time he gets until it is up. Money he will definitely be given and considering the lack of alternative options, control is something that he should be given.Not publicly of course, but hiring Jose is, or rather looks like, admitting he was wrong to sack him. But I don't that will be the biggest issue. The issue is that Jose knows that he will have much more security at City whereas here a run of bad games is enough to get him sacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Not publicly of course, but hiring Jose is, or rather looks like, admitting he was wrong to sack him. But I don't that will be the biggest issue. The issue is that Jose knows that he will have much more security at City whereas here a run of bad games is enough to get him sacked. True, which is why i think city is the much easier option, but i still think he would like to come back to chelsea more as he is already loved here, and people don't always choose the easy option. Roman does seem like the sort of extremely stubborn person but he does love the club and loves to see it winning so bringing back arguably the best (one of the best) managers in the world wouldn't be too surprising to me.City will match our offer and provide everything that jose wants, but jose has a home in london, loves the city and loves the club. So its defiitely not gonna be a clear choice either way...Or City can do us a favour and not sack mancini. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Not publicly of course, but hiring Jose is, or rather looks like, admitting he was wrong to sack him. But I don't that will be the biggest issue. The issue is that Jose knows that he will have much more security at City whereas here a run of bad games is enough to get him sacked. I dont think so. I really believe Mourinho would have more security here. He will have 110% of everyone's support and by hiring him RA will be stating he is aware there arent any more options on he market.I trully think he would be like God here, his ego cant ask for much.As far as money and players, nothing that a 150mi transfer window and Mourinho's tactics cant handle, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 Still can't see Jose returning here, tbh, because that would have to mean:1) RA admitting he was wrong to fire him in 2007. And in my experience, rich, powerful men, don't like doing that. 2) He will be given time, money and control. Highly unlikely, imo. 1. How many rich, powerful men do you know who aren't prepared to put success before their egos? Because they aren't going to be rich men for long.2. How much control would he have under Begiristain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Well looking at things realistically. I can't see him at real at the end of the season meaning he will probably be back in england next season.Now as for the who: It will be one of:Chelsea - Has history with us, loves the club, fans, the issue could be the roman factorMan city - With the exception of him having history with us, they have the same sort of model as us and can buy like we can etc.Arsenal - Doesn't have the money to improve the squad he would like and can't see him wanting to fight for top 4 and domestic comps wheras with everyone else he can challenge for the leagueTottenham - Can't see them getting rid of AVB especially if he gets them top 4.Utd - Somewhere that is successful and has a great team however i can't see them sacking fergie and i don't think he is gonna quit yet.So that means its us or city. Now we want him more, but does roman want him. I am sure he would love to come back to the bridge but again, does roman want it? City may be the easier option for him, however we may be the preffered option. Also as some people have said, london is better than manchester and probably more preferable for him to love there. Especially as he has a home here etc. A lot of this is more hope than judgement but i will be optimistic and i reckon we will get top 4, rafa will be sacked, mourinho will be hired. Lampy will get a new deal. We will win the champs league, and he will retire with the winning goal. There is no question the choice is between us and city.Squad wise, city is ready to contend right now not us. So baring any major transfer in the summer, it really depends on what Mourinho want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22mek22 133 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/jose-mourinho-more-chance-managing-1704986The stuff about City sounds quite good tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/jose-mourinho-more-chance-managing-1704986The stuff about City sounds quite good tbhI thought it is going to be why mou will choose chelsea over city but it is more of why city will prefer not to hire mou. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Freak 456 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 The next manager should be Mourinho.The only other manager that I'd want at the Bridge is Golden Guus...but he's unavailable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 If Benitez is still managing us next year and Torres is still starting, there is no way i'm watching a single game until those two clowns fuck off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I dont think Mourinho would even consider managing another club than Chelsea imo. He has always been contacting us in every way when he was in Italy and now in Spain, just look at last season http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmlWzvhUBqk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I wouldn't mind Pellegrini. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Not publicly of course, but hiring Jose is, or rather looks like, admitting he was wrong to sack him. But I don't that will be the biggest issue. The issue is that Jose knows that he will have much more security at City whereas here a run of bad games is enough to get him sacked. How? Fact is, if José ends up here next season, it pretty much dispels this notion.As you said, if we hire him, Roman is basically admitting he was wrong. Therefore, if this indeed does happen, there's a big probability José would be given free reign over pretty much everything at the club. If anything, I'd guess he'd have more security if he came here, rather than working under Bergiristain at City: a man who was, apparently, against his application to become Barca's manager.We're in a pretty desperate situation regarding the manager department, no Pep, no Klopp, etc. So I wouldn't be surprised if we went all out for José and promised him he could do whatever he wanted; which I, personally, feel would only be a good thing, considering the ineptitude of our board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Mourinho would be perfect in a way because hes a winner and some of these players we have with less experience and a frailer mentalility could do with a kick up the arse but yet again as soon as hes won everything he will probably fuck off like he did at Inter which doesn't make him perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkyflashman 187 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Jose please come home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Gino 377 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGg3SRVHTuk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I dont think so. I really believe Mourinho would have more security here. He will have 110% of everyone's support and by hiring him RA will be stating he is aware there arent any more options on he market.I trully think he would be like God here, his ego cant ask for much.As far as money and players, nothing that a 150mi transfer window and Mourinho's tactics cant handle, lol.His ego won't be able to handle getting sacked twice by the same team which will most likely happen if he joins us. And how can he have more security here than City? If Mancini was our manager, he wouldn't have lasted 2 months!1. How many rich, powerful men do you know who aren't prepared to put success before their egos? Because they aren't going to be rich men for long.2. How much control would he have under Begiristain? 1) We're talking about the man who still won't admit that he made a mistake by buying Torres and still insists that the manager plays him.2) That's a completely different situation. Jose has history here, and one of the main reasons for the problems with the board when he was here was the of control he had over transfers especially Shevshenko. How? Fact is, if José ends up here next season, it pretty much dispels this notion.As you said, if we hire him, Roman is basically admitting he was wrong. Therefore, if this indeed does happen, there's a big probability José would be given free reign over pretty much everything at the club. If anything, I'd guess he'd have more security if he came here, rather than working under Bergiristain at City: a man who was, apparently, against his application to become Barca's manager.We're in a pretty desperate situation regarding the manager department, no Pep, no Klopp, etc. So I wouldn't be surprised if we went all out for José and promised him he could do whatever he wanted; which I, personally, feel would only be a good thing, considering the ineptitude of our board. The first part does not necessarily imply the second. Remember AVB? Roman promised him time and believed in his project so much so that AVB said he sees him self still at Chelsea in 10 years and in the end all he got was 8-9 months. Roman likes to show everyone who is boss, don't think that's going to change anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppen 934 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I too consider City as the most likely destination, not considering stories in newspapers, but just my gut feeling. I would certainly love to have the Special One make his return to the Bridge, but right now I don't think we should get too excited about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 His ego won't be able to handle getting sacked twice by the same team which will most likely happen if he joins us. And how can he have more security here than City? If Mancini was our manager, he wouldn't have lasted 2 months!1) We're talking about the man who still won't admit that he made a mistake by buying Torres and still insists that the manager plays him.2) That's a completely different situation. Jose has history here, and one of the main reasons for the problems with the board when he was here was the of control he had over transfers especially Shevshenko. The first part does not necessarily imply the second. Remember AVB? Roman promised him time and believed in his project so much so that AVB said he sees him self still at Chelsea in 10 years and in the end all he got was 8-9 months. Roman likes to show everyone who is boss, don't think that's going to change anytime soon. So you're saying an egotistical man is worried about what will happen if he gets sacked? In my experience, egotistical men don't tend to countenance failure when approaching a new task. I think he's the same. In fact Chelsea have gone through about eight managers since he left and finished outside the top four last year. The bar has been set fairly low.Roman is not a stupid man by the way. Torres cost £50 million so of course they need to try and make that deal work but he's shown he's capable of learning the error of his ways. In fact isn't every sacking of a manager a tacit admission of failure when appointing them? Wouldn't a man capable of admitting he made a mistake still have Scolari or AVB in charge?It may well be a slightly different situation, but there's still history with the Barcelona guys and Mourinho comes with a lot of baggage. They've shown a dislike for such shit with Balotelli, although they did stick with Tevez. I don't think Citeh are the type of club we are, or the type of club that suits Mourinho. We've always been a glamourous club who place a premium on style (which is why it pisses me off when people moan about us going for the glamour names or the drama attached to the club) and we've got that arrogant swagger that Mourinho has. It's why he was such a great fit for us in the first place and why someone like Benitez would never be right even if he didn't have his history with the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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