The Next Manager?

[OneMoSalah 8,885]

4 minutes ago, DDA said:

Not neccissarily. It might be because Roman has had enough of employing the big names. He might want to take us in a new and fresh direction. Give somebody the opportunity to prove himself on the big stage.

Or someone who will be a bit more grateful for the chance and will be willing to take what he gets player and budget wise? I genuinely think that if Roman is looking at these sort of appointments then we can expect more poor signings in the future as opposed to actually going out and competing financially. Luis Enrique will want shit loads of investment if he comes, Conte will if he stays, Sarri hopefully a similar mind set. Jakonovic? For a chance at a huge club, where he played at as well, for a guy with his experience as a coach... 

[DDA 9,929]

4 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Or someone who will be a bit more grateful for the chance and will be willing to take what he gets player and budget wise? I genuinely think that if Roman is looking at these sort of appointments then we can expect more poor signings in the future as opposed to actually going out and competing financially. Luis Enrique will want shit loads of investment if he comes, Conte will if he stays, Sarri hopefully a similar mind set. Jakonovic? For a chance at a huge club, where he played at as well, for a guy with his experience as a coach... 

I hope we don't touch Enrique with a barge pole. My gut instinct tells me he is't the man for the job. Sarri is my first choice simply because of the football he has had Napoli playing. If Jardim isn't an option then I would be content with getting Jakanovic. Whoever comes in will have to bring their A-game. Next season is a big season for us.

[Unionjack 7,531]

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10 minutes ago, DDA said:

Not nessiccarily. It might be because Roman has had enough of employing the big names. He might want to take us in a new and fresh direction. Give somebody the opportunity to prove himself on the big stage.

We need a manager with a big enough character to deal with the oversized egoes of these players. I cant see the manager of Fulham had to deal with problems the likes of Conte has to.

Heneeds to be able to fight his corner with our denabding board and the biased media.

[DDA 9,929]

Just now, Unionjack said:

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We need a manager with a big enough character to deal with the oversized egoes of these players. I cant see the manager of Fulham had to deal with problems the likes of Conte has to.

Heneeds to be able to fight his corner with our denabding board and the biased media.

Conte is a big character and has stood up to the egos. Look at what has happend between him and the dressing room. We need a coach with charisma who will come in and put an arm around the egos and bring inovative ideas to the training ground. This will command respect from the squad. A similar way to how Pep manages his sides.

[OneMoSalah 8,885]

Just now, DDA said:

I hope we don't touch Enrique with a barge pole. My gut instinct tells me he is't the man for the job. Sarri is my first choice simply because of the football he has had Napoli playing. If Jardim isn't an option then I would be content with getting Jakanovic. Whoever comes in will have to bring their A-game. Next season is a big season for us.

True but I think if we finished top 4, Jakanovic wouldn't be in with a shout. The summer looks like it will be tough financially we won't have the CL windfall etc and I think the club is maybe going to look to continue down the way it has in the last 4-5 years with this one in one out mentality unless we get somebody to do what Conte did (think its not helped him but has shown the club in a bad light in comparison to the Manc clubs regarding ambition in the market), push back and say look this way or nothing. Can't see Jakanovic being that guy. Enrique isn't a brilliant manager in my eyes, I agree he wouldn't be the ideal man for the job but you can bet your bottom dollar he wouldn't come here unless he was given a good budget to sign 3 or 4 top top players at least as well as a good contract. 

[Starman60 1,343]

2 hours ago, Pizy said:

Really hope this shit is resolved within the next week so I don't have to read and worry about us appointing some jerkoff that's completely unqualified. Don't think I could stand the speculation for a month or more.

Get it all done so we can enjoy the World Cup and scout some players. All I know is that if we appoint Jakonovic or someone else that's a huge risk we can surley kiss Hazard goodbye. We need s manager who has proven himself at the to level and commands instant respect from our players.

Totally agree. We dont want another AVB in the house.

[Unionjack 7,531]

26 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

has shown the club in a bad light

Not like Mou then with his war with the media,players,refs,managers and not to mention female medical staff lol

I like Conte and if all the player shite had not happened i would have wanted him to stay. But I think maybe too much water has flown under The Bridge

It would be about right if all these weeks of Sarri links and headlines turned into nothing bit a bag of shite!

 

[Laylabelle 9,534]

Probably.. For now rumours are just rumours. Wheoer papers feel like linking us with on the day

[Tomo 21,751]

1 hour ago, DDA said:

Whoever comes here is inevitably going to get the sack. Even if they win the CL they will get sacked. It is what it is. I'm starting to make my peace with it. 

I don't see why that's a bad thing should it go that way, yes in an ideal world we will find our own Fergie but our sharpness in making changes when they aren't working is the next best thing and has probably won us half our trophys, if not more. You only need to look at Arsenal to see what damage clinging onto a manager due to past glory can do or look at United to see what clinging onto to manager's due to a misguided idea of stability can do. It may on the face of it be harsh sacking managers a year after a title win, but like with Carlo and Jose before him, all the evidence points to us getting worse if we keep Conte, not better, so it's best to get some fresh impotous in before things get really stale.

We may have got a lot of things wrong down the years but the hire and fire policy isn't one of them.

[Laylabelle 9,534]

The only problem I see with it and wherever may be the case or not that if I was a manager with a long term or even short term vision I'd be put off by it. You want time to make changes and have a impact not oh look off you go. Like said wherever potential people are put off by it remains to be seen. Just don't see how it can keep going every 2 seasons or so. 

That and cost! Stop giving people long term contacts. 2 years is about right 

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

When is Conte back from Italy? I think after that is when we will get some light on whether he is staying or not

[Unionjack 7,531]

41 minutes ago, Tomo said:

I don't see why that's a bad thing should it go that way, yes in an ideal world we will find our own Fergie but our sharpness in making changes when they aren't working is the next best thing and has probably won us half our trophys, if not more. You only need to look at Arsenal to see what damage clinging onto a manager due to past glory can do or look at United to see what clinging onto to manager's due to a misguided idea of stability can do. It may on the face of it be harsh sacking managers a year after a title win, but like with Carlo and Jose before him, all the evidence points to us getting worse if we keep Conte, not better, so it's best to get some fresh impotous in before things get really stale.

We may have got a lot of things wrong down the years but the hire and fire policy isn't one of them.

Thats one hellova great attraction to offer potential managers

To be very honest I havent got a clue why any decent manager would eben want to come here. They must talk to our ex managers who cant give us too good of a rec.

They want to know that the club trusts them and has their back when the shit hits the fan. They want to know their ideas and and opinions are taken seriously.

Would YOU want to manage us if you were good?

[Tomo 21,751]

12 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

Thats one hellova great attraction to offer potential managers

To be very honest I havent got a clue why any decent manager would eben want to come here.

Because it's the ultimate no lose situation which is about as attractive as it gets. They get a big chance of trophy's for the CV and because of the stigma created about Roman they get next to no blame if things go wrong. Jose left us fighting relegation yet walked into one of the biggest job in football. If he fucks up even half as badly with United his top level career will be over.

I wish i could find a similar job were i will be portrayed as a genius if i do well and have no risk of damaging my reputation if i don't.

[Superblue 6,372]

1 hour ago, Tomo said:

I don't see why that's a bad thing should it go that way, yes in an ideal world we will find our own Fergie but our sharpness in making changes when they aren't working is the next best thing and has probably won us half our trophys, if not more. You only need to look at Arsenal to see what damage clinging onto a manager due to past glory can do or look at United to see what clinging onto to manager's due to a misguided idea of stability can do. It may on the face of it be harsh sacking managers a year after a title win, but like with Carlo and Jose before him, all the evidence points to us getting worse if we keep Conte, not better, so it's best to get some fresh impotous in before things get really stale.

We may have got a lot of things wrong down the years but the hire and fire policy isn't one of them.

I completely agree that this has contributed to our success down the years but I do also think that some patience and stability will be needed with the next appointment, assuming it is a more offensive minded coach, because the change in philosophy will be so drastic. 

Di Matteo, Benitez, Mourinho, Conte - the whole of this squad now has only known one type of way and that is a reserved, defensive approach as the priority. If we were to get someone like Sarri it will take time, a lot of time. Klopp and Poch have been around for 4 years now with nothing tangible yet to show for their troubles and Guardiola took a full season and huge amounts of money to get things going at City.

The days of Fergie and Wenger are gone, but being prepared to ride through some rough times and give a manager 3 - 4 years to get a style of football ingrained into the players, and leave a solid foundation for the next coach is necessary. 

[Costa19 858]

10 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Because it's the ultimate no lose situation which is about as attractive as it gets. They get a big chance of trophy's for the CV and because of the stigma created about Roman they get next to no blame if things go wrong. Jose left us fighting relegation yet walked into one of the biggest job in football. If he fucks up even half as badly with United his top level career will be over.

I wish i could find a similar job were i will be portrayed as a genius if i do well and have no risk of damaging my reputation if i don't.

And earn them BIG bucks at the same time