The Next Manager?

[the wes 7,212]

 

[OneMoSalah 8,787]

Long post alert 😂

Whoever comes in, needs to sell 5 players at least from the squad (not even mentioning the loan army) and sign the same back if not more but of better quality than previous seasons.

Getting rid of Pedro and signing someone like Leon Bailey is a must as well, Bailey in particular has so much potential, is lightening quick and seems to have a bit of arrogance like he knows he’s a good player. I have no doubts Hazard is off in the summer too based on his body language, performances and effort in the last few months so finding another good wide player will also be crucial (unless he stays and is playing within himself for the World Cup? Oscar did it too in 2014 but that doesn’t sit good with me regardless) because Willian is not getting any younger.

Need somebody to take Cescs place in the 11, although I think off the bench he could still be a viable option, we seen the quality he can deliver with 30 minutes to go in more advanced positions like when Conte played him further forward last year after all this talk of he was finished. In a 2 man MF he is a goner yes but honestly expect us to revert back a 4231 or 433 regardless of coach (unless Conte stays but doubt it).

Think the likes of Courtois (world class keeper on his day but obviously has a move on his mind), Luiz/Cahill or both have to go. Drinkwater and Bakayoko... not sure what their purposes are other than being squad players and if I was being honest I’d be hoping one of them would definitely be getting sold in the summer because we could do with players in the same position a lot better (if DD was Baka’s age I’d keep him but he’s not, although he has put in better performances than Baka except that game v United). 

Barkley, Giroud and Emerson will probably get a fair shot next season but again the verdict is out on them although Giroud brings something different to the team. I’d like to see more of Emerson before the summer purely because if we play a flat back 4 next season I think he has the legs to get up and down better than Alonso and if we get somebody like Tuchel or Enrique in charge, quick transitions will be a big feature in our game next year. Tuchel (not overly keen but could be proven wrong) will more entertainment, goals but conceding stupid goals due to being exposed, Enrique will probably be a bit more reserved in comparison like at Barca, they weren’t exactly like Peps side and had a decent balance between attack and defence, as welll as being able to press high up or sit off teams more although we don’t have the front line they had or the midfield. It’s interesting because a lot of people are mentioning these two but I think Allegri fits the mould more, he’s not exactly got one style, his Juve team are able to do a bit of everything. Although why leave a Juventus side who you’ve taken to 2 CL finals, won 4 league titles with and have a lot of say for Chelsea, who will probably throw you out after 2 seasons after giving you a small say on signings. I honestly think the bigger names will be a lot more reserved about coming here, not that they will not listen to an offer but I think after the last few transfer windows and Contes public comments regarding this, as well as the rumors circulating that he can’t wait to leave due to that it will hinder us if say other big clubs were to state their interest in these guys. I mean have we ever heard anything regarding a manager saying he can’t wait to leave a club? 

In my opinion, Ancelotti returning would be a disaster because we’d continue to go in this trend of signing average players on recommendation from idiots up stairs because he is a yes man. Also he’s a good coach but look at him at Bayern, he took over a team that had been drilled tactically and given precise instructions and structure player to player by a intense coach. It’s no different here, players would maybe react differently for a few months or maybe up to a season but I think in the long run it’s not a great move and we need to look at the long run; we have needed to for a few seasons despite mixed successes because if not we will continue in this cycle of chopping and changing and struggle to have a clear philosophy or identity that people can relate to. Brendan Rodgers, I hope the clubs not even going to consider him, youth players yes he’d maybe be able to make the path slightly easier as shown in the past but his transfer market history is shockingly average except a few at Liverpool (although maybe he wouldn’t get as much of a say) and I couldn’t deal with the pathetic excuses and the whole “we play one way and have no plan B” like at Liverpool. Simeone would be another move I’d be against because he is too similar to Jose and Conte although a time least we’d have a lot more character in the side under him, Atletico always seem to be right up for the majority of bigger games under him and regardless of how you play that is a good aspect for any team.

[Azpinator 2,325]

I don't think I should waste my time thinking about managers because with this current board no manager on the planet can make us a consistent top team again.

[Special Juan 27,439]

No point even talking about it really, the job isn't even an attraction, the dumb cunts who run the show are the ones we should be looking to replace, not the fucking guy in charge now.

This whole has escalated because of another shit summer window where we skimped and scraped the bottom of the barrel and got shite like Zappacosta, Drinkwater and the latest window of Palmeri and Giroud. That's not even taking into consideration the shite we previously stock piled in Cahill, Moses and Barkley who is also a fucking crock.

The man management has been so bad, and the day to running of transfer dealings so poor it's embarrassing.

 

[Tomo 21,733]

4 hours ago, Azpinator said:

I don't think I should waste my time thinking about managers because with this current board no manager on the planet can make us a consistent top team again.

A team above us in the table who have just smashed us at Stamford Bridge run a transfer policy that makes ours look like PSG. Yes you can make some allowances on the manager because of what you said but it's not like he's being given Sunderland's squad is it?

[Alabama 1,992]

10 minutes ago, Tomo said:

A team above us in the table who have just smashed us at Stamford Bridge run a transfer policy that makes ours look like PSG. Yes you can make some allowances on the manager because of what you said but it's not like he's being given Sunderland's squad is it?

don't mind him... as pathetic as d board is conte moaning about lack of transfers has beclouded them to think our squad is that piss poor... ffs we ain't even expecting him to win the epl  or ucl with the squad...just top 4....

[Azpinator 2,325]

1 hour ago, Tomo said:

A team above us in the table who have just smashed us at Stamford Bridge run a transfer policy that makes ours look like PSG. Yes you can make some allowances on the manager because of what you said but it's not like he's being given Sunderland's squad is it?

That club offered some sort of stability to its manager. It's not all about spending. Mourinho is also currently above us but he still collapsed while under our board.

[milka 3,355]

 

[the wes 7,212]

2 hours ago, milka said:

 

if got him  has the manager we need to luis campos aswell 

[Fernando 6,488]

Might as well get Simeone. 

Because we are not going to change. 

If Simeone can work with lesser budget at Atletico he should be good here. 

[Superblue 6,372]

7 hours ago, milka said:

 

If (and it's a big if) Chelsea make a decision in the summer to change their philosophy and commit to it which would be to promote a more attacking style of football, look to bring through a nucleus of young players who will hopefully grow together and form the next generation, and look to find better value in the transfer market that may not reap immediate dividends but longer term gains...then Jardim would make a lot of sense as he ticks those boxes.

What he did last season with a young Monaco team playing fearless, aggressive, attacking football both domestically and in Europe was sensational and put many of their players on the map in world football. It was very similar to Klopp's young Dortmund team in my opinion beating off Bayern. Losing so many players was always going to have a huge effect on Monaco but he hasn't grumbled, got on with it, and they have still remained competitive and should finish a comfortable second this season so it is clear that he can re-generate the side to go again, which seems to have been our biggest problem in recent years. 

It will all boil down to exactly what Roman Abramovich wants for Chelsea moving forward because for me, we lack an identity at present which needs addressing as a matter of urgency.

[robsblubot 3,536]

they will bring Jardim into our side of the fence, so that he we will play to Bakayoko's strengths.

Jardim would be the polar opposite of Conte, and of every other manager we've been linked with.

[KevinAshburner 1,270]

I wonder how things would've planned out for Chelsea FC if Roman Abramovich chose to stay with AVB as manager for many years.

 

 

[milka 3,355]

 

[Fernando 6,488]

4 hours ago, milka said:

 

Same shenanigans every two seasons. 

We don't stick with philosophies. 

[the wes 7,212]

Former Borussia Dortmund manager Thomas Tuchel will replace Unai Emery as Paris St-Germain boss next season. (ESPN)

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

I've been thinking of this "philosophy" situation.  I've often raged about our lack of "philosophy".  But, I kind of realized that we have/had one.  It was instilled by Mourinho.  Look at the squad after he left.  Same kind of players, in fact, most of his squad have stuck around until these past couple of seasons.  It's why when things go bad, we always revert to pragmatism and defending deep and "suffering without the ball".  The problem now, is that we don't have any leaders in the team, like those days.  So, it doesn't work.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a NEW philosophy.  And I think the club want that too.  Campos and Jardim would definitely be a step in the right direction (though AVB was supposed to be the start of a new philosophy too).

[Superblue 6,372]

4 minutes ago, Sideshow Luiz said:

I've been thinking of this "philosophy" situation.  I've often raged about our lack of "philosophy".  But, I kind of realized that we have/had one.  It was instilled by Mourinho.  Look at the squad after he left.  Same kind of players, in fact, most of his squad have stuck around until these past couple of seasons.  It's why when things go bad, we always revert to pragmatism and defending deep and "suffering without the ball".  The problem now, is that we don't have any leaders in the team, like those days.  So, it doesn't work.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a NEW philosophy.  And I think the club want that too.  Campos and Jardim would definitely be a step in the right direction (though AVB was supposed to be the start of a new philosophy too).

Exactly, our philosophy has been built on a strong, imposing team that can intimidate and bully opponents into submission. Rock solid defence, powerful midfielders and a battering ram striker, with a touch of class and creativity.

And we proved over the last 13 years or so it was the best possible philosophy for us to adopt because we've been the most successful English team in this time and even the great Barcelona team were fearful of us.

For me though that philosophy and style has become dated in a new era where teams are willing to attach and press teams higher and more aggressively. I don't think its a coincidence that we've struggled this season, as to have United (given the money they've spent, expectations and frankly drab and dire performances). Styles, tactics, etc go in and out of fashion through time. In that period most teams would operate with one striker and two wide men. Now 2 strikers can be far more common in a more traditional 4-4-2. And it does feel like we seem stuck in the past a little and need re-booting.

Also as you alluded to the personnel we have now compared to back then makes our style even more difficult to work. The players we had at our best fitted like a glove - Cech, Terry, Carvalho, Cole, Makelele, Essien, Ballack, Lampard, Drogba. They were players that were vastly experienced and huge characters.