TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Zola would be a poor choice IMO. He's one of the very best Chelsea players ever, but he's only been managing for a few years and has had limited success. A lot of the keys of management is managing players. Rotating squads through 60 games, keeping people happy, and maybe most importantly, managing the large egos of the players. I'd like to see him manage for a few more years so he can get more experience before getting a shot at Chelsea. AVB was managing at Porto and he still failed because he couldn't handle the locker room. I think having previously managed a fairly big club takes away some risk and having managed for a while takes away more risk. Also just realised that Deschamps is included in the younger/riskier options. He shouldn't be. He's been managing for over a decade now. He managed Monaco to the CL final. Managed Juventus and Marseilles and was pretty successful everywhere he went. I doubt it will happen because he just took on the France job in the summer and I expect him to keep it until after the World Cup at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/2294695/Gianfranco-Zola-Im-not-ready-for-Chelsea-yet.htmlBS. Graeme said on a few occasions that Roman refused to renew his and Zola's contract back in 2003. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/2294695/Gianfranco-Zola-Im-not-ready-for-Chelsea-yet.html Yep Zola has previously been quoted saying Roman has always treated him well and a job offer was always on the table as a coach, but Zola only wants to return in the future as manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZOS 580 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Because he has used players with the same build and physicality before...DecoOzilSneijderDi MariaRobbenJoe ColeAnd don't forget that Makelele was only 170cm tall...Jose has his beasts of burden that do all the dirty work (Khedira, Alonso, Makelele, Terry, Essien, Cambiasso, Zanetti), his powerful fowards/attackers (Lampard, Eto'o, Milito, Duff, Drogba, Gudjohnson, Ronaldo, Benzema) and his flair players (Sneijder, Ozil, Di Maria, Joe Cole).I think Jose can do it, but it will be very hard to fit all three of them into a well oiled hard working machine.First of all, I wasn't talking about physicality. second, Chelsea FC spent in excess of $100M purchasing this type of players. This clearly shows what sort of football the owner is looking for. Now you can't seriously claim he'll build his team around any of our new boys, can you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Zola would be a poor choice IMO. He's one of the very best Chelsea players ever, but he's only been managing for a few years and has had limited success. A lot of the keys of management is managing players. Rotating squads through 60 games, keeping people happy, and maybe most importantly, managing the large egos of the players. I'd like to see him manage for a few more years so he can get more experience before getting a shot at Chelsea. AVB was managing at Porto and he still failed because he couldn't handle the locker room. I think having previously managed a fairly big club takes away some risk and having managed for a while takes away more risk. Also just realised that Deschamps is included in the younger/riskier options. He shouldn't be. He's been managing for over a decade now. He managed Monaco to the CL final. Managed Juventus and Marseilles and was pretty successful everywhere he went. I doubt it will happen because he just took on the France job in the summer and I expect him to keep it until after the World Cup at least.I agree about the inexperience. Toronto what would your opinion be on someone like Michael Laudrup?He hasn't had the opportunity to manage at the highest level but has good experience both on the continent and in Europe, has always set his teams up to play good football, always comes across well in the media and I think his playing career also demands a certain respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Zola would be the worst managerial appointment we could make up there with JT himself... When the inevitble bad run happens and he gets fired the backlash would be huge and most likely greater than when RDM was fired. If we are going down the younger route i would rather it be someone like laudrup who is a good manager but wouldn't be too attached to the club and the fans wouldn't be too attached to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 BS. Graeme said on a few occasions that Roman refused to renew his and Zola's contract back in 2003. At least I tried to back up my arguement with at least one source. As far as I know Zola entered a gentleman's agreement with Cagliari before Roman even bought the club. So it's moot point in the end.First of all, I wasn't talking about physicality. second, Chelsea FC spent in excess of $100M purchasing this type of players. This clearly shows what sort of football the owner is looking for. Now you can't seriously claim he'll build his team around any of our new boys, can you?I hinestly don't care if you were talking about physicality or not, I was. What type are you talking about? Flair? Creative? Putting it in bold doesn't make your point any clearer. I know exactly what you are trying to say but it's hard when what you've stated is as ambiguous as Justin Bieber's sexuality and gender. I think you really underrate Jose as a manger. He isn't the one trick pony that many claim him to be. We all know that he prefers his football to pragmatic, organised and disciplined but that doesn't mean he is incapable of building a team around Mata, Oscar and Hazard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 At least I tried to back up my arguement with at least one source. As far as I know Zola entered a gentleman's agreement with Cagliari before Roman even bought the club. So it's moot point in the end. I heard Le Saux say this on TV, a couple of times actually. Once in an interview I can't remember where and another time a couple of months ago (before our match against Liverpool to be exact) when he was guest on Premiere League Today on PL TV and they were having a look at that game against Liverpool in 2003. Graeme even said that Gianfranco was dying to stay but was too much of a gentleman to show it and instead made it look like he wanted to leave.Anyway, that sounds incredibly uncharacteristic of Roman to go out of his way to the extent of offering to buy a club just to please one player of his. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZOS 580 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I hinestly don't care if you were talking about physicality or not, I was. What type are you talking about? Flair? Creative? Putting it in bold doesn't make your point any clearer. I know exactly what you are trying to say but it's hard when what you've stated is as ambiguous as Justin Bieber's sexuality and gender. I think you really underrate Jose as a manger. He isn't the one trick pony that many claim him to be. We all know that he prefers his football to pragmatic, organised and disciplined but that doesn't mean he is incapable of building a team around Mata, Oscar and Hazard.Calm the fuck down! If you know 'exactly' what I'm talking about why are you asking me? The last statement was enough to have a meaning full conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I agree about the inexperience. Toronto what would your opinion be on someone like Michael Laudrup?He hasn't had the opportunity to manage at the highest level but has good experience both on the continent and in Europe, has always set his teams up to play good football, always comes across well in the media and I think his playing career also demands a certain respect.Laudrup wouldn't be my first choice, but I think (if Swansea do well the rest of the year) I'd be fine with him. He's been managing for a decade and has a tremendous amount of experience as a player, playing at so many massive clubs. He's also probably one of the best players ever which automatically gives him credence with the players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Zola would be the worst managerial appointment we could make up there with JT himself... When the inevitble bad run happens and he gets fired the backlash would be huge and most likely greater than when RDM was fired. If we are going down the younger route i would rather it be someone like laudrup who is a good manager but wouldn't be too attached to the club and the fans wouldn't be too attached to him.Then, after Zola gets fired, we could hire and fire Poyet. Then, we could have songs (roughly) every 8 minutes for our former managers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Calm the fuck down! If you know 'exactly' what I'm talking about why are you asking me? The last statement was enough to have a meaning full conversation.Don't worry, I'm perfectly calm. They are rhetorical questions, I was merely pointing how vague and ambiguous most of your statements are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOSS 372 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Rijkaard,Mourinho,Löw,Montella,Blanc,Hiddink,Klopp,Pellegrini or Laudrup would be the best for Chelsea.My realistic top 5 targets (managers that we can actually get ) are :1.Mourinho2.Löw3.Rijkaard4.Hiddink5.Pellegrini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chelsea-gianfranco-zola-is-a-serious-contender-1539655I really hope it isn't Zola. As much as I'd hate to say it, the bloke is far too nice to manager a top club like Chelsea. There would be absolutely no discipline and control.We need someone with a big ego that can manager the team and the players and put them in there place. Someone like Jose...But not Jose!Bullshit about Zola. He was sacked when he was at West Ham, why do you think he will do the job for Chelsea? He will be a RDM mk ii. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Rijkaard,Mourinho,Löw,Montella,Blanc,Hiddink,Klopp,Pellegrini or Laudrup would be the best for Chelsea.My realistic top 5 targets (managers that we can actually get ) are :1.Mourinho2.Löw3.Rijkaard4.Hiddink5.PellegriniRijkaard is hugely overrated - he's lived off the reputation of his time at Barca where he had the likes of Ronaldinho, Deco and Eto'o in their prime and has done nothing since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Get Nigel Adkins. He is available.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2264403/Southampton-sack-Nigel-Adkins.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pHaRaOn 2,131 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Forget Hiddink. He said, that this is his last season as coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,958 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Abramovich will take complete control over picking #CFC next boss after being swayed into hiring Rafa Benitez by Michael Emenalo (DailyStar)Technical Director Emenalo pushed Abramovich into hiring Benitez even though the owner had misgivings #CFC (DailyStar)If Roman made a really really sad facial expression, maybe he would persuade Hiddink not to finish his coaching career Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZOS 580 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Don't worry, I'm perfectly calm. They are rhetorical questions, I was merely pointing how vague and ambiguous most of your statements are.good for you, genius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,958 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Forget Hiddink. He said, that this is his last season as coach.He said a lot of things to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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