Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 From a Napoli fan on another Chelsea forum : "he's not gonna reply exactly the same game as we were used in naples, he's not that stupid He changes with what he has. His original tacts was 4231, as he was playing in empoli. when he came in naples he tried that formation for a couple of game and he switched to a 433 because was more balaced and solid. Left or right doesn't matter, we were building the game on the left cause insigne and ghoulam are better in playmaking and have more pushing attitude, while on the right side hisay is more defensive, giving the change to callejon to appear from nowere and collect the insigne pass from the other side. He mostly plays with a very high defensive line, with the two central defenders able to play the ball in case of pressing, spanish triangulations with the playmaker that in our case was jorginho, a man the always plays with one touch. Anyway it depends if he wonna continue with a 433 or get back to the 4231." Gotta say a 4-2-3-1 would look quite tasty. Buy Seri and Leon Bailey. Swap Wilian with Martial. Only position i'd still have some doubts would be the striker but i don't think we're gonna sell Morata after 1 year and signing an expensive striker while we still have Morata seems unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa19 858 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 9 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said: So what will happan after thursday if we want him? Then its up to Napoli how much they want us to pay for Sarri. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, Costa19 said: Then its up to Napoli how much they want us to pay for Sarri. Can he not resign? I'm sure there's a penalty that he would have to pay that we would cover. I doubt the club wants to do it like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa19 858 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sideshow Luiz said: Can he not resign? I'm sure there's a penalty that he would have to pay that we would cover. I doubt the club wants to do it like that. 8 millions, thats the payout for a club or himself according to italian press Sideshow Luiz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Costa19 said: 8 millions, thats the payout for a club or himself according to italian press I see. Gotcha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Unionjack and DDA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, Jason said: He will have a few to choose from here. Will wonder WTF!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 36 minutes ago, Costa19 said: 8 millions, thats the payout for a club or himself according to italian press I guess the question is: "How much will it cost for him to resign after next week?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa19 858 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 23 minutes ago, Sideshow Luiz said: I guess the question is: "How much will it cost for him to resign after next week?" I dont think that is possible? It sounds crazy but why wouldnt he do that if he could? Maybe he cant sign for another club if he resigns until when his former contract would have expired? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 23 minutes ago, Costa19 said: I dont think that is possible? It sounds crazy but why wouldnt he do that if he could? Maybe he cant sign for another club if he resigns until when his former contract would have expired? Maybe he can, and that's what the delay is? I have no idea. We know about his clause, with a deadline. But no one had said anything about after the deadline. If the clause is removed, then what happens? DeLaurentis: His clause is 8M Us: He's going to just resign next week and you get nothing. I'd look at getting a replacement in, if I were you. ADL: If you fuck us like that, we're going to inflate the price of anyone you want to buy Us: You already do that ADL: Right. Well, it's about to get worse and we'll sell players like Jorginho to your rivals for less than what the current market is really saying Us: Isn't that already happening? ADL: Maybe we can work something out... The details of the post deadline termination seem sketchy. https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/chelsea-fc-transfer-rumours-news/2018/5/26/17397992/whats-the-deal-with-maurizio-sarris-buyout-clause Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 42 minutes ago, Costa19 said: I dont think that is possible? It sounds crazy but why wouldnt he do that if he could? Maybe he cant sign for another club if he resigns until when his former contract would have expired? Nah i dont think that would be right. Has to be some sort of legal issue if ADL tries to stop him going to work elsewhere; if Sarri resigns off his own accord. I'd say it's more a case of him being unable to resign while the clause is active, otherwise Napoli could kick up a fuss that he has purposely stopped them getting their potential 8m euros. Which obviously is why ADL has not fired him, officially. He wants his cash If we dont agree something by Thursday, then ADL can request whatever amount he wishes, and if we won't pay it, its tough shit. That is when I could maybe see Sarri resign or get fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa19 858 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Sideshow Luiz said: Maybe he can, and that's what the delay is? I have no idea. We know about his clause, with a deadline. But no one had said anything about after the deadline. If the clause is removed, then what happens? DeLaurentis: His clause is 8M Us: He's going to just resign next week and you get nothing. I'd look at getting a replacement in, if I were you. ADL: If you fuck us like that, we're going to inflate the price of anyone you want to buy Us: You already do that ADL: Right. Well, it's about to get worse and we'll sell players like Jorginho to your rivals for less than what the current market is really saying Us: Isn't that already happening? ADL: Maybe we can work something out... The details of the post deadline termination seem sketchy. https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/chelsea-fc-transfer-rumours-news/2018/5/26/17397992/whats-the-deal-with-maurizio-sarris-buyout-clause 1 hour ago, ChelseaFanUK said: Nah i dont think that would be right. Has to be some sort of legal issue if ADL tries to stop him going to work elsewhere; if Sarri resigns off his own accord. I'd say it's more a case of him being unable to resign while the clause is active, otherwise Napoli could kick up a fuss that he has purposely stopped them getting their potential 8m euros. Which obviously is why ADL has not fired him, officially. He wants his cash If we dont agree something by Thursday, then ADL can request whatever amount he wishes, and if we won't pay it, its tough shit. That is when I could maybe see Sarri resign or get fired. From the link @Sideshow Luiz posted: "The release clause expires May 31. At that point, Sarri can resign, and leave ADL with nothing. It’s unclear if Sarri himself (or Chelsea, by proxy) would have to pay a penalty or simply just forgo any compensation (which, if he takes another job, would be academic anyway). It’s also unclear if Sarri can even “just resign”, as previous reports made it clear the Napoli would have to “accept” the resignation." Looks like a proper wasps nest this clause Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 So are we giving Conte the chance to stay? http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/11386540/chelsea-have-general-agreement-with-maurizio-sarri-to-succeed-antonio-conte-sky-in-italy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 So are the board looking for players while we are in manager limbo? Is Roman going to manage us by Skype and his helicopter hovering over the Bridge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Would be interesting to see what Sarri did with Eden. Like the idea of perhaps having him more centrally but we need the right players to do so. If we take Sarri’s current system: Reina Hysaj Albiol Koulibaly Ghoulam Jorginho Allan Hamsik Callejon Mertens/Milik Insigne vs. Courtois Azpilicueta Christensen Rüdiger Emerson Diawara Kanté Hazard Bailey Icardi Martial Something like this would be mega interesting. Champagne football with a real shot at the title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 34 minutes ago, The Skipper said: Would be interesting to see what Sarri did with Eden. Like the idea of perhaps having him more centrally but we need the right players to do so. If we take Sarri’s current system: Reina Hysaj Albiol Koulibaly Ghoulam Jorginho Allan Hamsik Callejon Mertens/Milik Insigne vs. Courtois Azpilicueta Christensen Rüdiger Emerson Diawara Kanté Hazard Bailey Icardi Martial Something like this would be mega interesting. Champagne football with a real shot at the title. Hazard in midfield would leave us quite unbalanced I would say. Let me propose this Courtois Azpi-Christensen-Rudiger-Emerson Kante-Diawara/Meyer/Jorginho-Barkley Fekir-Icardi-Hazard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 What I don't get is why are people thinking that Sarri would play exactly the same formation at Chelsea as he was at Napoli? Any great manager plays formation that suits the players he has. Exactly what Conte done last season, one of the best "tailoring" I have ever seen. "He played Mertens as CF so he will play Hazard as CF and whole team would press like mad". Yes, and I am Moses. Peak of this team was last season. And even if we still had Costa and Matić that wouldn't be anything close to match City, or even United. If we bring Sarri and keep the same shit transfer policy, we have done nothing. Supermonkey92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 12 minutes ago, El P. said: What I don't get is why are people thinking that Sarri would play exactly the same formation at Chelsea as he was at Napoli? Any great manager plays formation that suits the players he has. Exactly what Conte done last season, one of the best "tailoring" I have ever seen. "He played Mertens as CF so he will play Hazard as CF and whole team would press like mad". Yes, and I am Moses. Peak of this team was last season. And even if we still had Costa and Matić that wouldn't be anything close to match City, or even United. If we bring Sarri and keep the same shit transfer policy, we have done nothing. 4-3-3 is optimal for possession so it is fair assumption that this is what Sarri would do. I disagree with your point about Conte, Conte at first attempted to change his tactics to fit the Chelsea team. During the Arsenal game, he want with what he knows best and that is what changed our season. He obviously found players that greatly benefited from the change. Duppy Conqueror 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, Clockwork said: 4-3-3 is optimal for possession so it is fair assumption that this is what Sarri would do. I disagree with your point about Conte, Conte at first attempted to change his tactics to fit the Chelsea team. During the Arsenal game, he want with what he knows best and that is what changed our season. He obviously found players that greatly benefited from the change. Yes, if you have normal central midfielders. Bakayoko - Kante - Fabregas in midfield would be possession based? Well... During Arsenal game he changed formation because he saw our defense was shit, that we have no midfield for playing football, and that our attack with Costa and Hazard could be strong and benefit with more freedom if we balance our team out. It's coincidence that he knew how to play 3-man defense, but whether we like to admit it or not, our defense wasn't good enough to play 2(4) in defense, don't know if they are good enough now, probably not. 4-1-4-1 at the beginning of 2016-17 was disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 35 minutes ago, El P. said: Yes, if you have normal central midfielders. Bakayoko - Kante - Fabregas in midfield would be possession based? Well... During Arsenal game he changed formation because he saw our defense was shit, that we have no midfield for playing football, and that our attack with Costa and Hazard could be strong and benefit with more freedom if we balance our team out. It's coincidence that he knew how to play 3-man defense, but whether we like to admit it or not, our defense wasn't good enough to play 2(4) in defense, don't know if they are good enough now. 4-1-4-1 at the beginning of 2016-17 was disaster. Obviously the midfield needs major reinforcement, it should be priority number 1 this summer. Cesc should be a part time player and Bakayoko should be shipped out. I am not sure why you even suggest that. For some reason it escapes some of you, Sarri is not being hired to get the best out all of the players we have and change his tactics to fit the players. He is being hired to bring a new direction to the team, he is being brought to change Chelsea. Some players will greatly will benefit, and some will be out of place. MrExcalibur100, Belgiannutt and Unionjack 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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