OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, iceboy said: King Carlo signed 3 year contract with Napoli. Again I think this move is a bit of a risk, as Bayern replacing Pep with Carlo was. I don't think Sarri is as intense as Pep but I think hes a lot more hard work than Carlo will be. Hopefully it works out for both parties because Napoli have established a nice philosophy and Carlo is ex Chels but I can see it being a troublesome mix. Also no way Carlo is going to go there and not have the guarantee of financial backing, hes a house hold name manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, Ledgi said: Well, according to Napoli fans he fears he will lose a lot of key-players in the summer, and ADL doesn't want to splash the clash. Sounds familiar? Welcome to the club... Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Sarri is the only manager I would take right now. Maybe Tuchel, but he gone to Psg. Would be realy cool to finaly see Cfc play attacking football if we can get Sarri. Im getting excited, hopefuly we dont fuck up in transfer window and get few quality players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa19 858 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 He teasing? DDA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-3001 286 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 10 hours ago, Unionjack said: Appologiws my friend I forget at times we have memers here from around our Blue world and I tend to text like I talk lol Translation: We dont know if Sarri has already told his ckub that he wants to leave and that is why Napoli have SUPPOSEDLY signed Ancelotti. But we don't know because there has been no gossip coming out of the club like there normally is. What part of India do you live? I come over most years for holidays. Well, he's been sacked now and you must already be knowing that by now. I live in the capital. New Delhi. Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Just now, AK-3001 said: Well, he's been sacked now and you must already be knowing that by now. I live in the capital. New Delhi. Only visited there for 2 or 3 days at a time to stay in a nice hotel and have a proper bath for a change. We travel from up in the mountains right thru to Sri Lanka but base is Goa. Really dont know if I can go back there again. But lets hope our sorry saga is soon cleared eh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 34 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Again I think this move is a bit of a risk, as Bayern replacing Pep with Carlo was. I don't think Sarri is as intense as Pep but I think hes a lot more hard work than Carlo will be. Hopefully it works out for both parties because Napoli have established a nice philosophy and Carlo is ex Chels but I can see it being a troublesome mix. Also no way Carlo is going to go there and not have the guarantee of financial backing, hes a house hold name manager. Can't believe Napoli have given up on winning the league... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-3001 286 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, Unionjack said: Only visited there for 2 or 3 days at a time to stay in a nice hotel and have a proper bath for a change. We travel from up in the mountains right thru to Sri Lanka but base is Goa. Really dont know if I can go back there again. But lets hope our sorry saga is soon cleared eh! That'd be awesome! Maybe when you're here we can meet over a drink or two. I won't mind meeting a Blue from these parts! Think the way this saga is clearing up, we can expect Sarri to come in soon. If he does, then we could be in for some really exciting times ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Just now, Jason said: Can't believe Napoli have given up on winning the league... I dont think the old boy had a bad record with us. oldportblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post! Jase 43,479 Posted May 23, 2018 Popular Post! Share Posted May 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Tomo said: Does it make more sense though? Keeping Conte may look relatively risk free by comparison to other appointments on the face of it, but scratching the surface keeping him is probably the biggest risk we can take and all the evidence suggests it just simply isn't a risk worth taking. In Fact the arguments for keeping Conte and not appointing Sarri are alarmingly similar to the arguments that we should have kept Jose and not risked it with Conte, your first points were made numerous times in Jose's defense when his days looked numbered. How many times at Chelsea or any club has things stagnated like they have with us and it got better again? City gave Pellegrini a chance to rectify a miserable title defense and they got even worse. Milan started well under Allegri, gave him ample chance to turn things round when things went stale, but they got worse. I can't think of one example of a manager who was great at the start, but things stagnated then got better again and given the history of this situation, Conte's stubbornness with his tactics and his constant fallings out with players and board members, all the evidence points to us getting worse if we keep him, not better. He has basically replicated Wengers spell at Arsenal in two years (and skipping the 4th place finishes), first season he revolutionised the club and changed the way English teams play and approach things (like Wenger did in his Highbury days) then this season he has got caught up and overtook, just simply didn't have another reaction up his sleeve and has been left trailing his wake but had an FA Cup to get him out of jail (just like Wenger of 2014 onwards). The reality is we will likely get worse if we keep Conte and we need to act before things seriously stagnate. I thank him for that amazing 16/17 season (it was genuinely up there with the back to back titles in terms of the sheer confidence i had in us) but the milk has gone stale. Now onto the point with Sarri, yes he is a risk but he is a calculated one. Also judging managers on previous silverware is a bit of a moot points these days considering the two most decorated managers available are Ancelotti and Wenger, one gets repeatedly fired at top clubs for the same flaws and the other well enough said. He may have won nothing yet but he has shown he can get teams competing playing great football on a short budget. We aren't as brassic as Conte and some of his apologists try and make out but we certainly are not competing with the Manchester clubs in the market any time soon. Conte has made it abundantly clear he isn't having that, Sarri is a big believer in developing players, the same way we are trying to play down the ability of some of our players playing in a system of Sarri's, Napoli fans were laughing hysterically at the thought of Koulibaly being made into a composed ball playing CB back in 2015. Appointing ready made managers for a title or two worked for a while, but if were looking at competing in the long run, we need to get a style implemented for two key reasons. 1. The high pressing, all energy attacking style is becoming the way to go in the modern game just like the solid shape and counter was in the 00's. Despite finishing second United are looking in serious trouble and with the famous Mou third season coming up and all other top 6 having progressive managers next season, would you bet against them falling back down to 6th? or worse if he hysterically has another 15/16. 2. Our academy sides play the type of game Sarri does. At the minute the disconnection between the first team and the academy in terms of play style is alarming, someone like Sarri coming in and bridging that gap will surely help in terms of the best youngsters progressing to the first team. The Academy is the one thing we have over the clubs that are/can spend more money than us, and at some point we have to make it count. Even if Sarri last for two years and wins nothing, there's every chance he could still be key in transitioning us into a wonderful new era and for me he is absolutely worth the gamble. You know what's the sad thing about the Conte situation here? It's that he used to be a coach who emphasizes on improving the players at his disposal, focuses on making sure everyone work as a collective unit and strives to achieve victory at all cost. Maybe he's still that same coach but somewhere this season, he completely lost it. He lost the interest to do so. Sure, he has reasons to be pissed that he wasn't given enough backing by the board but you only have to look what he did with players like Alonso, Moses, Luiz (who many thought was a joke signing and wouldn't fit in) etc. Didn't receive full backing in the transfer window but he improved the players, made them play better than anyone was expecting. He motivated the entire team to play at a high level. Every time when problems appeared, he often found solutions or at least tried to fix them, be it during matches or for the next ones. In fact, I still remember his press conference after that debacle at Arsenal last season. He was pissed, he looked like someone who had taken a physical beating and it had hurt his pride. He was determined to fix the problems in the squad and he did. No excuses, no stupid complaints. He was just ready to get onto the training pitch and start working on solutions. Compare to this season? It's like literally day and night. Suffered a bad result? Moaned about the board, complained about the lack of spending, made indirect jibes about the players not being good enough etc. He became opposite of himself. Instead of finding solutions to problems, motivating the players, there were excuses ready. Every single time. He became detached from the team and didn't operate like a serial winner he claimed himself to be. Would have liked him to stay but his demeanor and decision making in 2018 have been diabolical on so many levels, with that spineless approach at Man City being the worst of the lot. Not sure if Sarri is the absolute right man for the job (then again, with the options available out there, who is?) but if Conte is no longer invested in achieving success week in week out, like in 2018, then he has to go. Sideshow Luiz, AK-3001, Superblue and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 18 minutes ago, Unionjack said: I dont think the old boy had a bad record with us. He's won only 4 league titles in 20+ years of management. Hardly a great record for a supposedly world class manager. Napoli basically hired another cup manager a la Benitez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Costa19 said: https://mobile.twitter.com/rhilinde/status/999322622478385152 rofl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jason said: He's won only 4 league titles in 20+ years of management. Hardly a great record for a supposedly world class manager. Napoli basically hired another cup manager a la Benitez. 67 wins, 20 draws and 22 losses in 109 matches - Win % with us is the third-highest in the PL behind Mou and Fergie and now Pep probably Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Just now, Unionjack said: 67 wins, 20 draws and 22 losses in 109 matches - Win % with us is the third-highest in the PL behind Mou and Fergie and now Pep probably Yes but the point was about his league titles, not his win record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jason said: He's won only 4 league titles in 20+ years of management. Hardly a great record for a supposedly world class manager. Napoli basically hired another cup manager a la Benitez. I think Benitez is more suited to Naples out of the two. Tactically he has a way of setting up which helps Bridge the gap to superior sides (as we found out to our cost many times and as recently as 11 days ago), Carlo's more relaxed approach isn't suitable when trying to fight better sides. I feel he could bomb with this job big time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jason said: Yes but the point was about his league titles, not his win record. Didn't we win the league and FA Cup tho? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 If we weren't involved in all this and it was another team I would say it looks to be done. We will probably end up with Wenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa19 858 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 "At the moment, Sarri have only received an offer from Zenit, so it remains the only concrete solution. However, Sarri seems to be stalling the move as he's waiting for a signal from London. The Chelsea move is still considered possible by the manager, although time is moving fast." FFS SIGN HIM UP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Shame it's not Poche or Simeone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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