CHOULO19 24,332 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, The Skipper said: A defender should always be goal side of a striker. If he is, he minimising the chance for the shot on goal quite significantly. You don't need another player in there to negate the threat. Coaches teach full backs to patrol the area around the far post, and Ivanovic failed in that aspect. Was ball watching. Nothing more to it. Apart from that mistake he had a solid game (defensively anyway). He was definitely at fault for the goal. How would a defender stop a header on goal if he is goal side of an attacker on the near post and the cross is played in front of him? In that scenario, and here we're talking about a totally different case, defenders are usually told to do the opposite and stand between the attacker and the crosser and not goal-side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 10 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said: How would a defender stop a header on goal if he is goal side of an attacker on the near post and the cross is played in front of him? In that scenario, and here we're talking about a totally different case, defenders are usually told to do the opposite and stand between the attacker and the crosser and not goal-side. He challenges for it, quite simple... Anyway! In this scenario, Ivanovic doesn't help at all even if he is the 3rd defender near goal. He is completely irrelevant if the ball is crossed near post. That'll be for Terry to deal with, and he usually does very well in this scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 He challenges for it, quite simple... Anyway! In this scenario, Ivanovic doesn't help at all even if he is the 3rd defender near goal. He is completely irrelevant if the ball is crossed near post. That'll be for Terry to deal with, and he usually does very well in this scenario. Btw Cahill asked Ivan to pick up the Watford player, even though Cahill should have been marking him. You can see on the replay Cahill clearly asking Ivan for help. And then Cahill was marking no one. Its def Cahill fault and whoever else that should have ran back with Capoue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 50 minutes ago, Bir_CFC said: Btw Cahill asked Ivan to pick up the Watford player, even though Cahill should have been marking him. You can see on the replay Cahill clearly asking Ivan for help. And then Cahill was marking no one. Its def Cahill fault and whoever else that should have ran back with Capoue. Fair enough. Didn't see that. Well, Cahill is at fault then for asking for help when he didn't need it at all. If Cahill doesn't ask for that Ivanovic would've probably been in the right zone and would've made it extremely harder for Capoue to get a shot off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 If he is so bad then the younger players must be even worse as they can't get ahead of him. Or its like I been saying, the clubs wants youth but continually get managers that are not good for this..... Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,615 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 another vintage performance by ivanovic vs ireland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 Good news lads According to reports Ivan will be facing for his future http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/09/06/branislav-ivanovic-faces-fight-for-chelsea-future-as-antonio-con/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 24 minutes ago, the wes said: Good news lads According to reports Ivan will be facing for his future http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/09/06/branislav-ivanovic-faces-fight-for-chelsea-future-as-antonio-con/ Close relationship with Roman? No wonder he plays week in week out even when he's in totally shit form! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,054 Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 Good news lads According to reports Ivan will be facing for his future http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/09/06/branislav-ivanovic-faces-fight-for-chelsea-future-as-antonio-con/ Let's hope he loses it. Dave wants his natural spot back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 I wont be surprised to see Ivanovic, once he retires, rejoin Chelsea board and become "negotiator" for new transfers, add some motivation to potential targets. You know, the dirty work. The players will have to think twice before turning us down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 3 hours ago, the wes said: Good news lads According to reports Ivan will be facing for his future http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/09/06/branislav-ivanovic-faces-fight-for-chelsea-future-as-antonio-con/ I'll believe it when I see it. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 3 hours ago, LAM09 said: Let's hope he loses it. Dave wants his natural spot back Now I'm all for dropping Ivanovic but what is all this about natural spot. From a defensive point of view at least, I much prefer him on the left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,054 Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 Now I'm all for dropping Ivanovic but what is all this about natural spot. From a defensive point of view at least, I much prefer him on the left. I'm just saying put him in a place where he is needed more. Alonso should now have the LB spot IMO. Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 6 hours ago, LAM09 said: I'm just saying put him in a place where he is needed more. Alonso should now have the LB spot IMO. I agree purely because of the fact it will mean Ivanovic out of the team (well that's based on blind optimism that Alonso isnt even worse). However if I had it my way we would have signed a new RB this summer and kept Cesar were he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 The most frustrating thing when it comes to Ivanovic, is in his prime he was the best RB in the league and kept getting shafted in the centre or the bench by Carlo/AVB in favour of fucking Bosingwa (I don't buy this he was a CB stuff, i hated him in that position even in his prime, imo it was just a lazy assumptiom becayse he is big and looks like a nutter). Last few years hes been past his prime and got selected at RB every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 http://mlsmultiplex.com/2016/09/08/mls-rumors-branislav-ivanovic-move-2017/ Ivan linked to move to America TheIceMan and The Skipper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky 739 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Groundhog day again. Maybe we should call it donkey day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Why even bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 ha haha hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Fucking terrible footballer, stealing a living at this club but hey he looks big and hard so lets give him the VC armband eh? The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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