LAB 1,030 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 What people often fail to realise is that there are matches where he is busy for enough time that some mistakes are bound to happen. Yesterday he defended for nearly 90 minutes almost non-stop. That's not easy. It's like asking an attacking player to create for 90 minutes successfully time after time.Extremely well done yesterday and i want to add to Choulo's post that Di Maria also didn't find it easy with Brana since he came on. Tomo and LondonsFinest 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 I have more confidence in him now he's shown he can be a defensive fullback, I think now that Jose asks him to play like this when Willian's on the flank because he has enough pace to overlap Iva. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 What people often fail to realise is that there are matches where he is busy for enough time that some mistakes are bound to happen. Yesterday he defended for nearly 90 minutes almost non-stop. That's not easy. It's like asking an attacking player to create for 90 minutes successfully time after time.Extremely well done yesterday and i want to add to Choulo's post that Di Maria also didn't find it easy with Brana since he came on.But why does every significant attack from every opponent come from his side? The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAB 1,030 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 But why does every significant attack from every opponent come from his side?He is obviously not as good as Azpi and gets picked more often. I'd prefer Azpi and Luis to be our FBs, but we tend to over criticise Ivanovic for some reason while others see him as one of the best in the league. Surely he is not that bad. This thread is sometimes worse that Oscar's. That's all I'm saying nothing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 But why does every significant attack from every opponent come from his side?Yesterday? Because he was targeted by utd. Usually? Because goes forward and does not think about the space he is leaving behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Yesterday? Because he was targeted by utd. Usually? Because goes forward and does not think about the space he is leaving behind. Exactly. He deserves all the criticism he gets tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Exactly. He deserves all the criticism he gets tbh.Very true. But he also deserves all the praise for a performance like yesterday. iseah100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguelito 459 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 I didn't think he was that great yesterday. I thought he got beat around his corner on numerous occasions. I thought azpi on the other was just brilliant. Obviously like you all stated before, he was targeted, but there were atleast 3 or 4 times he should have been punched in more and then the ball went between him and Cahill. Then I also remember one time when drogba was back helping him defend and someone (forget who) just blew by drogba and iva literally just walked at the corner of the 18 and didn't do anything. Should have doubled up on the attacker with the ball with drogba or run to the middle to help defend the incoming cross. So I agree he is bound to make a mistake with being targeted and us playing the way we did, but don't think he was anywhere near motm. He was better than usual, but still not where we need our starting RB to me. The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 I didn't think he was that great yesterday. I thought he got beat around his corner on numerous occasions. I thought azpi on the other was just brilliant.Obviously like you all stated before, he was targeted, but there were atleast 3 or 4 times he should have been punched in more and then the ball went between him and Cahill. Then I also remember one time when drogba was back helping him defend and someone (forget who) just blew by drogba and iva literally just walked at the corner of the 18 and didn't do anything. Should have doubled up on the attacker with the ball with drogba or run to the middle to help defend the incoming cross.So I agree he is bound to make a mistake with being targeted and us playing the way we did, but don't think he was anywhere near motm. He was better than usual, but still not where we need our starting RB to me.they target Brana for a reason .. he is the weak link in our defence .. Sad when we could switch Azpi and play Felipe The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 He is obviously not as good as Azpi and gets picked more often. I'd prefer Azpi and Luis to be our FBs, but we tend to over criticise Ivanovic for some reason while others see him as one of the best in the league. Surely he is not that bad. This thread is sometimes worse that Oscar's. That's all I'm saying nothing more.That's because I doubt they watch Ivanovic as often as we do and I suspect his goals play a huge part in that. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonsFinest 692 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Credit where it's due. He played good when he was needed.Still, the lack of pace killed him twice. One time the defence covered him, the other Rooney missed. I think he is loosing pace, and if we are to bring him back to CB would be better. In the end, Mourinho has a reason and I'm the last person to critise that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAB 1,030 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 That's because I doubt they watch Ivanovic as often as we do and I suspect his goals play a huge part in that.Fair point.On the other hand though you could say that we don't watch other team's fullbacks that closely either, so we don't know every mistake everyone does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Credit where it's due. He played good when he was needed.Still, the lack of pace killed him twice. One time the defence covered him, the other Rooney missed. I think he is loosing pace, and if we are to bring him back to CB would be better. In the end, Mourinho has a reason and I'm the last person to critise that. Can't really fault him for that, though, as he shouldn't have been in those situations to begin with. Oscar's defensive contribution the first 30 minutes or so was abysmal. LondonsFinest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,916 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Disagree with him being great yesterday. He was significantly better after Shaw was taken out.He can't deal with pace. It's not that he's slow, it's that his positioning is so poor. When he's able to keep his man in front of him he's a beast. When he allows his man to get outside of him between the touch line and his body at pace he gets destroyed often times. Or when a midfielder plays a cross field ball out wide behind him like Rooney kept doing yesterday. He doesn't have the pace to recover.Still stand by what I've been saying throughout the season and that's that Luis should be a regular starter. Ivanovic can be used plenty still but our team can reach a higher ceiling with Luis starting. zolayes and bethos1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonsFinest 692 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Can't really fault him for that, though, as he shouldn't have been in those situations to begin with. Oscar's defensive contribution the first 30 minutes or so was abysmal.Yeah, maybe. But still, I think overall he is losing the ability to keep up with players, hence why I believe we need a new full - back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 20, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted April 20, 2015 I'm pretty sure Mourinho thinks Ivanovic is like Maicon, and Azpi is like Zanetti.Im pretty sure Mourinho thinks Ivanovic is Messi and Ronaldo combined. We Hate Scouse, yuvala, BlueLion. and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Never understood how this rumor got started. Cant really picture Ivan leaving, or JM not doing everything he could to keep him here. He obviously trusts Ivan to no end. yuvala 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Never understood how this rumor got started. Cant really picture Ivan leaving, or JM not doing everything he could to keep him here.He obviously trusts Ivan to no end.Ivanovic doesn't even suit Guardiola's playing style to begin with. The media being clueless again I guess. xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Sánchez can come out of his pocket now. Legend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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