Duppy Conqueror 1,533 Posted Monday at 20:13 Share Posted Monday at 20:13 For us we would buy Simons for the 60m or so RBL want. For BlueCo, at the back of their minds they probably weighing up if to go for that or 3 South American virgins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,437 Posted Monday at 20:18 Share Posted Monday at 20:18 Blue Armour, Vesper and bigbluewillie 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon 53 Posted Monday at 20:25 Share Posted Monday at 20:25 22 hours ago, Vesper said: but you have to amortise the profits, not use the gross sales totals I thought it was reported that Chelsea have balance the cost of any players added to their European squad with sales. So amortisation doesn't come into it. I'm happy to be corrected if I'm wrong. Their settlement agreement states that Chelsea agree “to be subject to a sporting restriction and, as a consequence, may not register any new player on its List A to UEFA club competitions unless the List A transfer balance is positive.” To make it trickier, this cost also includes Fofana and Lavia who were not included in Chelsea European squad knockout stage of the Conference League last season, so the cost of adding them into their Champions League squad for the coming season must be taken into account. This could explain the reluctance to make more signings, I can also see the situation where some new signings won't be registered to play in Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,164 Posted Monday at 20:58 Share Posted Monday at 20:58 34 minutes ago, JFKvsNixon said: I thought it was reported that Chelsea have balance the cost of any players added to their European squad with sales. So amortisation doesn't come into it. I'm happy to be corrected if I'm wrong. Quadruple player sale won’t fix Chelsea’s new FFP problem as Clearlake stare down UEFA punishment “Madueke will have made up a big chunk of that, but you also have to remember that the profit on player sales is calcualted on the player’s amortised book value, not the headline figures. So the profit on his sale to Arsenal will have been around £30m. Similarly, they will only have broken even on the Dewsbury-Hall sale, not made any meaningful profit. “If Chukwemeka goes for £22m, as we understand is imminent, that will be an FFP profit of around £12m. For Ugochukwu, it will be about £6m. If they get £20m for Broja, that will be pure profit. But then again, none of those players were in Chelsea’s UEFA squad last year, so they will help the club with the allowable loss limit element of the UEFA’s rules, but not the provision that means they have to have a positive transfer balance. Chelsea will get there, and it has always been the plan to use players as trading chips anyway, but it means they still have work to do.“ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,164 Posted Monday at 21:09 Share Posted Monday at 21:09 Tyler Dibling has the talent but is an instant Premier League return the right move for him? https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6545099/2025/08/11/tyler-dibling-southampton-everton-premier-league/ When the Championship season got underway over the weekend, one of the most talented young players in the country wasn’t involved. England Under-21 international Tyler Dibling was not injured or suspended. Instead, a player once said to have been valued at £100million was left out by new Southampton manager Will Still because he was “not in a headspace” to feature. “There are a few players who are where they’re at in their career and making choices,” Still told ITV Sport when asked about Dibling, while also referencing Samuel Edozie and Joe Aribo, who didn’t play in the 2-1 win against Wrexham on Saturday. Dibling, 19, is the subject of intense interest from Everton who have seen a couple of bids turned down, the latest being worth £40million ($54m) including add-ons. Southampton have made a counter-proposal of £45m plus £5m in add-ons and a 25 per cent sell-on clause, a package that might be too rich for Everton’s blood. Everton are more confident of bringing Jack Grealish to Hill Dickinson Stadium, which is a little ironic given how much Dibling is reminiscent of Grealish at his free, flying best while at Aston Villa. The pulled-down socks lend themselves to the comparison but Dibling is also Grealish-esque in the manner of his gliding, jinking running style. Able to beat a man with the nonchalant drop of a shoulder, there’s a bit of Chris Waddle about them, too. What You Should Read Next Tyler Dibling wears his socks so low Jack Grealish would blush – he’s Premier League ready Southampton head coach Russell Martin knows he has a special talent on his hands in Tyler Dibling - he looks at home in the top flight Ball-carrying is his outstanding attribute but anyone who saw Dibling often single-handedly carry a dreadful Southampton team up the field last season will have spotted how fearless, tenacious, inventive and almost impudent he was when taking the game to the opposition. Dibling made 20 Premier League starts, mostly from the right wing but also as an attacking central midfielder, showcasing the talent that had already been evident for many years on the south coast, including when he scored a hat-trick of near-identical goals for Southampton’s B team against Newcastle in a 4-2 Premier League 2 win three years ago. Dibling is keen to return to the top flight and has also earned admirers at Newcastle United and Aston Villa. Even in the second tier, Dibling’s contract running until 2027 means the ball is in Southampton’s court. They will not be minded to accept anything less than a premium price for one of English football’s most exciting young talents. The situation leaves Dibling at a career crossroads for the second time in his young career. A couple of months after he was named on the bench for a Premier League game as a 16-year-old by former Southampton boss Ralph Hasenhuttl, Chelsea enticed Dibling to London before Southampton could offer professional terms when Dibling turned 17. In July 2022, via a lucrative financial package that Southampton couldn’t match, Dibling moved to Stamford Bridge. However, the shy 16-year-old struggled to adapt to his new big-city surroundings and was said to have felt like “an outsider”. By the end of August, having played just two games, Dibling returned to Southampton on reduced terms, with credit due to both clubs for facilitating the move, given the difficulties a homesick teenager was experiencing. “You have international after international from the first team down to the under-15s at Chelsea, and it is a ruthless environment,” former Southampton B-team coach David Horseman told The Athletic in 2022. “Tyler wasn’t ready for it.” Three years on, he looks set to move on again, but Southampton might ask whether the time is right for Dibling, who first joined their academy at eight years old, to fly the nest. Everton and their manager David Moyes have a history of moulding, trusting and nurturing young talents, so Dibling would likely get more playing time there than he would at other top-flight clubs, such as, well, Chelsea. But would Dibling benefit more from a year in the Championship, consistently playing week in, week out, in what is likely to be a winning team? Dibling may be worth £40m but he is still at the very start of his professional career, with only 2,404 minutes of senior football (in the Premier League and domestic cups) under his belt, the equivalent of just 26 full 90-minute matches. Many young English players honed their games in the second tier, not least Grealish with Villa, but also Morgan Gibbs-White, who flourished on loan at Sheffield United in 2021-22, and Mason Mount, who came to prominence during a fabulous season with Derby County in 2018-19 before winning the Champions League with Chelsea two years later. Dibling also has plenty to improve in his game, particularly his end product. There are still three weeks left in the window and all parties will want a solution sooner rather than later. “Ty’s just not in a headspace and not in a place that allowed him to get on the pitch today,” Southampton boss Still said on Saturday. “I thought that Ty wasn’t quite there and I understand it. He’s still young and there’s a lot going on, so we will see how that goes. “If nothing happens, then he will be a part of what we want to do and be important as well, but time will tell. It’s standard transfer window stuff.” Dibling and those around him have to work out where his potential will be maximised, a crucial decision. “Sometimes it’s better to stay in an environment where you feel at home and where everybody does everything for you,” former Southampton manager Hasenhuttl told reporters after Dibling had returned in 2022. “There’s a reason, in England, you say the grass is not always greener somewhere else.” Will Hasenhuttl’s words be prescient once more or will Dibling show he is ready to leave home? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,164 Posted Monday at 21:33 Share Posted Monday at 21:33 Chelsea have already asked Man City about signing their ‘extraordinary’ player who Pep Guardiola loves https://www.manchestercity.news/Chelsea-have-already-asked-man-city-about-signing-their-extraordinary-player-who-pep-guardiola-loves/ Manchester City News can exclusively confirm that Chelsea have enquired about signing Rico Lewis as several Premier League clubs have shown they are keen to sign the 20-year-old as well. Chelsea’s addition of Cole Palmer as well as Raheem Sterling has demonstrated how both clubs are willing to do business with each other, with City signing Mateo Kovacic in 2023 as well. Pep Guardiola wants a smaller squad and with James McAtee, Savinho and Jack Grealish all reported to be leaving, the decision-makers at the Etihad Stadium seem to be adhering to the Catalan’s demand. The Sky Blues’ stance on keeping Rico Lewis’ future has now come to the fore. Chelsea asked about signing Rico Lewis Our transfer expert, Graeme Bailey has been notified that Chelsea have asked Manchester City about Lewis’ potential availability, with Tottenham Hotspur, Aston Villa and Newcastle United have all expressed their interest as well. When Chelsea showed their interest in signing Nico O’Reilly, Manchester City News can reveal that they also discovered whether his teammate would be up for sale. With Manchester City News revealing that Ruben Dias’ new contract was a priority at the Etihad Stadium, so is Lewis’ extension for Viana — with both players ready to put pen to paper. Pep Guardiola has already made a bold Rico Lewis prediction at Man City Since breaking into the Sky Blues’ first-team, the youngster has been a revelation. So much so that Guardiola has entrusted the Bury-born wonderkid to play in a variety of roles, including right-back, left-back, central midfield and attacking midfield. In December 2022, Pep Guardiola heaped praise on Lewis by predicting him to be a star at the Etihad Stadium for the next decade. Guardiola said via Manchester City’s official website: “We had the privilege to almost announce that this guy will [have] a big decade, will have an absolutely incredible player for Manchester City because he is so intelligent, so humble.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,164 Posted Monday at 21:38 Share Posted Monday at 21:38 Man Utd make final decision on Alejandro Garnacho swap transfer with four stars offered Alejandro Garnacho is looking for a way out of Manchester United and has made it clear to the club that he wants to join Chelsea and will not entertain any other transfers https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/garnacho-man-utd-future-Chelsea-35713089 Alejandro Garnacho has told Manchester United he only wants to join Chelsea with the Argentine agreeing to terms over a deal at Stamford Bridge until 2032. The winger has fallen out of favour at Old Trafford and has been tipped to leave all summer. The Blues' interest dates back to January when they considered a move and Garnacho has no intention of taking up any other offer. He sees west London as the best place to reignite his career having previously been seen as a future star on the red side of Manchester. GiveMeSport reports that a reunion with Erik ten Hag at Bayer Leverkusen and a lucrative switch to Saudi Arabia were also options put to him. Napoli even reignited their interest but Garnacho has no plans to join anyone but Chelsea. The 21-year-old is so determined to secure a move to the Blues that he will shun every other avenue and spend a year on the sidelines in Manchester if that's what it takes. Chelsea hope to seal a deal for around £30million, but that is about £20m shy of what United were hoping to recoup for their player. The Blues had put forward several swap proposals, including Nicolas Jackson, but there is no interest. READ MORE: PSG issue Gianluigi Donnarumma statement with Man Utd 'expected to make bid' Christopher Nkunku is another player who Chelsea have offered to the Red Devils. Axel Disasi and Renato Veiga were also put on the table but United have made it clear that they want cash to re-invest into their squad - not players. Last term Garnacho scored 11 times - the best total of his career - but had to deal with a midseason positional switch which saw Ruben Amorim try and utilise him as a wing-back. Come the end of the season and the Argentine found himself on the bench for the Europa League final - reacting angrily on social media. He is one of a number of big names - Jadon Sancho and Antony among them - who have yet to secure moves away from Manchester with time running out. Amorim has admitted that any players who are not sold will be bought back into the fold. The Portuguese boss said: “I understand the clubs are waiting for the last minute but they can have a surprise. I’m ready to receive the players, they have more competition, more competition if you want to play in the World Cup next year, so you need to play." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,097 Posted Monday at 21:57 Share Posted Monday at 21:57 It will be worth signing Garnacho just to stop hearing about how we're going to sign Garnacho Strike, Blue Armour, Vesper and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkh 581 Posted Monday at 21:58 Share Posted Monday at 21:58 BREAKING: Chelsea step up talks for Alejandro Garnacho! Club to club discussions with Man United are now well underway. [@FabrizioRomano] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,897 Posted Monday at 22:02 Share Posted Monday at 22:02 Fuck sake. We’re actually going to sign Garnacho before getting the Simons deal done. 🤦♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,437 Posted Monday at 22:05 Share Posted Monday at 22:05 Fucking joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,437 Posted Monday at 22:06 Share Posted Monday at 22:06 8 minutes ago, mkh said: BREAKING: Chelsea step up talks for Alejandro Garnacho! Club to club discussions with Man United are now well underway. [@FabrizioRomano] When is this imbecile Winstanley fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,164 Posted Monday at 22:14 Share Posted Monday at 22:14 9 minutes ago, TheHulk said: Fucking joke. your new pillow TheHulk, Strike, Blue Armour and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,318 Posted Monday at 22:15 Share Posted Monday at 22:15 It will be so funny if Garnacho become monster player here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,164 Posted Monday at 22:20 Share Posted Monday at 22:20 2 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: It will be so funny if Garnacho become monster player here I resigned myself to the fact he is coming and I will back him fully until and if he proves he is not good enough. I hope he DOES become a monster (monster in a good way, lolol) Blue Armour, Strike, mkh and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,164 Posted Monday at 22:25 Share Posted Monday at 22:25 Fichajes is just on hyper-drive with the wild claims/lies They claim Citeh are offering us €250m (€200m base fee + €50m in add-ons) for Palmer and that PSG are offering us €150m (€125m base fee + €25m in add-ons) for Enzo F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,050 Posted Monday at 22:36 Share Posted Monday at 22:36 4 hours ago, Vesper said: Would absolutely prefer either one over Simons, and not bothered that it probably is summer 2026 till one comes, although before Levi's nightmare, I was not adverse to dropping £75-80m NOW on Rogers. If we do not buy Garnacho we STILL could do it. I have no idea why the board has such an obsession with him. We are just funding United's business. If this meant the former was a makeweight for Jackson, I'd be more understanding. Just feel there are so many alarm bells surrounding Garnacho; a ticking time bomb waiting to explode. TheHulk and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,437 Posted Monday at 22:47 Share Posted Monday at 22:47 (edited) 12 minutes ago, LAM09 said: I have no idea why the board has such an obsession with him. We are just funding United's business. If this meant the former was a makeweight for Jackson, I'd be more understanding. Just feel there are so many alarm bells surrounding Garnacho; a ticking time bomb waiting to explode. I like how they briefing to the press, no we need to sell Jackson and Nkunku to get Simons and after trying very hard and fast to get Garnacho in just to make sure United also have time to reinvest the money, swear this club is run by the dumbest people in football. Edited Monday at 22:49 by TheHulk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,615 Posted Monday at 22:50 Share Posted Monday at 22:50 34 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: It will be so funny if Garnacho become monster player here our hope is that he was nothing special because he played in that united team. hopefully he has a season like antony did in betis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,275 Posted Monday at 22:53 Share Posted Monday at 22:53 2 minutes ago, TheHulk said: I like how they briefing to the press, no we need to sell Jackson and Nkunku to get Simons and after trying very hard and fast to get Garnacho in just to make sure United also have time to reinvest the money, swear this club is run by the dumbest player in football. Santos, enzo, palmer, estoveo (fuck knows how to spell that), delap, Pedro, hato, cuca, caicedo, what the fuck are you on about, because we are signing one player u don’t like the club is ran by idiots? Ffs man grow up Strike and NikkiCFC 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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