mkh 627 Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 Chelsea have delivered an offer to Osimhen’s agent Calenda. (@DiMarzio) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,889 Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 (edited) 6 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: There has been talk of BlueCo acquiring another club after this window closes. They will need another club to sell all the players we have with no future to. This talk of us offering Sterling & Chilwell to Man United is surprising. I get they aren’t top top class players, have no future here etc but still seems weird to try and actively offload 2 players to a direct rival for top 4. I know Mason’s move didn’t work out but United are crying out for a left fullback and giving them a half decent one is bizarre. Although injuries probably only thing stopping Chilly from properly performing at a half decent level. But does seem very financially driven to try and get the high earners off the books. Edited August 27, 2024 by OneMoSalah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceboy 1,022 Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 BREAKING: Chelsea has submitted it’s first official offer for Victor Osimhen, delivered to his agent Calenda. In the next few hours it is possible that the negotiation with Napoli will begin. (via @DiMarzio) Things are moving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,310 Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 (edited) 7 hours ago, IMissEden said: To be clear, both Osi and Toney are below what this fanbase should expect. Well, who should we be expecting??? This post gives EVERY option valued at or over 40m Euros as well as all the ones who are not available Håland is not available and I doubt would come here until he is an ageing out CF Mbappe (IF you even count him as a CF) is the same Same for Lautaro Martínez (who was my main target for years, after it became clear, years ago, that we would not get Håland) Kane? LOLOLOL the next under those are (including ones who are NOT available, who are struck-through) the only options that MAY meet your expectations and who are actually available are in bold (there are only 4, and one of those is basically impossibly expensive and is oft-injured, and one is soon 29yo, in a few months) these are all the rest of the CFs valued at €40m or above, and in order of valuation: Victor Osimhen (you say is not good enough) Julián Alvarez Alexander Isak (£100m plus) Darwin Núñez hell no, so so overvalued Dušan Vlahović (my 1st choice) Viktor Gyökeres Ollie Watkins soon 29yo Marcus Thuram Rasmus Højlund Gabriel Jesus hell no, so so overvalued, always injured Endrick Loïs Openda Jonathan David (my 2nd choice, and so so low cost, but he may be just going to leave on a free next summer and start a bidding war for a signing bonus) Benjamin Sesko Joshua Zirkzee Ivan Toney Evan Ferguson Gonçalo Ramos João Pedro Mikel Oyarzabal Randal Kolo Muani Santiago Gimenez Victor Boniface Serhou Guirassy Matheus Cunha that is all this is THE post that defines the debate for proven CFs who are valued at £33.75m (€40m) and up I am fine with the project that is Jhon Durán Edited August 27, 2024 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,070 Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 44 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: one thing in his favour that he hardly gets credit for here is his work rate. He absolutely puts in a shift. Presses like mad, has a huge engine, puts his body on the line. If he does not score he still can wear down opposition defenders. His performances at this year's AFCON showcased that perfectly. He didn't score despite his efforts, but he helped others flourish by being a really nuisance, especially aerially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMissEden 21 Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 36 minutes ago, Vesper said: Well, who should we be expecting??? This post gives EVERY option valued at or over 40m Euros as well as all the ones who are not available Håland is not available and I doubt would come here until he is an ageing out CF Mbappe (IF you even count him as a CF) is the same Same for Lautaro Martínez (who was my main target for years, after it became clear, years ago, that we would not get Håland) Kane? LOLOLOL the next under those are (including ones who are NOT available, who are struck-through) the only options that MAY meet your expectations and who are actually available are in bold (there are only 4, and one of those is basically impossibly expensive and is oft-injured, and one is soon 29yo, in a few months) these are all the rest of the CFs valued at €40m or above, and in order of valuation: Victor Osimhen (you say is not good enough) Julián Alvarez Alexander Isak (£100m plus) Darwin Núñez hell no, so so overvalued Dušan Vlahović (my 1st choice) Viktor Gyökeres Ollie Watkins soon 29yo Marcus Thuram Rasmus Højlund Gabriel Jesus hell no, so so overvalued, always injured Endrick Loïs Openda Jonathan David (my 2nd choice, and so so low cost, but he may be just going to leave on a free next summer and start a bidding war for a signing bonus) Benjamin Sesko Joshua Zirkzee Ivan Toney Evan Ferguson Gonçalo Ramos João Pedro Mikel Oyarzabal Randal Kolo Muani Santiago Gimenez Victor Boniface Serhou Guirassy Matheus Cunha that is all this is THE post that defines the debate for proven CFs who are valued at £33.75m (€40m) and up I am fine with the project that is Jhon Durán It would just be someone less obvious. Someone else’s rotation option often thrives elsewhere as a starter due to the right profiling x team match. Year after year fans discuss Big Names or Bust despite the countless gems and bargains and others damaged goods that’ve defined successful eras for clubs. That’s on scouts to sort, not me. It’s also on them and the club to know, to wait and find that perfect fit, as opposed to get trigger happy and go for an Osi out of FOMO and panic buy cocktail. The way to identify who fits is not to look at who’s been having purple patches or stat streaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMissEden 21 Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 A few weeks ago, and all of last season, re list there, I wouldn’t have wanted Gyokeres. Now I would. The team profile has changed. All we need up front is a bully who scores, and knows to not be selfish. From what I’ve watched, he’d provide the closest to a Haaland profile, which suits what we need at the moment given most of our players still are not exactly bucket scorers, still unknown quantities essentially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,634 Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 even if its like 65m, we can actually say its 35 if we count the lukaku money who we would never play again. so its not that bad 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,343 Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 65M is a very nice value, tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMissEden 21 Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 (edited) I basically expect Osi to get in the way of other players, and frustrate them with selfish holds of the ball when he should release. Not exactly insulting the guy, just calling that. I think so if he signs. I think we need Less not More in terms of movement now. Need a simple profile to compliment, not more of the same. Need someone who will stay up top as a presence, not pop up all jammy, as we have lots already doing. Will literally crash into eachother while not having the figurehead so to say every team really likes up top. In my opinion from what Ive seen. We would benefit from a player who hasn’t signalled much ego or want for glory, someone happy to just do one or two things right. I fear Osi wants to be The Guy which is only good for this side if you’re not going to get bullied while holding on to the ball. Edited August 27, 2024 by IMissEden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,310 Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 27 minutes ago, IMissEden said: It would just be someone less obvious. Someone else’s rotation option often thrives elsewhere as a starter due to the right profiling x team match. but you said expectations we should demand someone better than Osimhen, who is a huge name which by nature means another huge name (as we are talking expectations), not rolling dice on some mid-career lower club level player nor does it mean rolling dice on some rando teen My point is that so many posters just toss out a framing (grass is greener, plenty of options, etc) when the actual options are now small as fuck in number as my post defintively showed I have been battling this typology since I joined the board it is lazy posting the 'oh, there are many better options' toss-out with none actually listed the reality is that there is not a fantasyland garden of great players waiting to be plucked LAM09 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,310 Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 (edited) 57 minutes ago, IMissEden said: I basically expect Osi to get in the way of other players, and frustrate them with selfish holds of the ball when he should release. Not exactly insulting the guy, just calling that. I think so if he signs. I think we need Less not More in terms of movement now. Need a simple profile to compliment, not more of the same. Need someone who will stay up top as a presence, not pop up all jammy, as we have lots already doing. Will literally crash into eachother while not having the figurehead so to say every team really likes up top. In my opinion from what Ive seen. We would benefit from a player who hasn’t signalled much ego or want for glory, someone happy to just do one or two things right. I fear Osi wants to be The Guy which is only good for this side if you’re not going to get bullied while holding on to the ball. here are 3 players I already listed who are not top 10 tier who seem to meet what you are now saying and who are remotely available Jonathan David João Pedro Santiago Gimenez (probably the closest to what you are now saying) going down, (I do not think many here realise just how many CFs have moved already, it is quite staggering), under my intial cut-off in valuation and who are available we have Brian Brobbey Taiwo Awoniyi Karim Konaté (badly injured) Terem Moffi (badly injured) and now the under £18.5m valuations (so a real stretch) Italics might be worth a punt Omar Marmoush Dominic Calvert-Lewin Patrik Schick Rodrigo Muniz Beto Arnaud Kalimuendo Jean-Philippe Mateta Jonas Wind Isaac Romero Kévin Denkey Gift Orban Eli Junior Kroupi (but he just turned 18) anything else we are now in the £12m and under range Edited August 27, 2024 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Reddish-Blue 2,517 Posted August 28, 2024 Share Posted August 28, 2024 4 hours ago, Mário César said: 65M is a very nice value, tbh If we're able to offer Casadei as part of the deal, could be less than 65m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,310 Posted August 28, 2024 Share Posted August 28, 2024 12 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: There has been talk of BlueCo acquiring another club after this window closes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,310 Posted August 28, 2024 Share Posted August 28, 2024 10 hours ago, DH1988 said: good ol' Jim will hoodwink taxpayers into funding the Wembley of the north.. not that we can complain about circumventing rules. Physical plant costs (stadiums, training grounds, etc etc) do not count towards FFP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,310 Posted August 28, 2024 Share Posted August 28, 2024 9 hours ago, mkh said: Passionating last minute deal incoming lol Italians bringing back English words from the 1500s and 1600s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,310 Posted August 28, 2024 Share Posted August 28, 2024 9 hours ago, Strike said: Then on to Arse and Spuds a one man Big 6 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,310 Posted August 28, 2024 Share Posted August 28, 2024 7 hours ago, Magic Lamps said: His injury history on transfermarkt was one of the first i have seen that has multiple pages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,310 Posted August 28, 2024 Share Posted August 28, 2024 7 hours ago, Strike said: Imagine he was being shopped at 100m + last year. from A Neapolitan Nightmare: Tales From The Bad Side: ------------------------------ 'How much for the Nigerian Prince?', whispered Vesper in a curious tone. '€130m!' demanded the Poison Dwarf with a squeal, prancing about and flashing his murky blue eyes. And with that, Vesper took her gold and went home, vowing to never talk to the mean little creature again. bluesman2610 and Magic Lamps 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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