Pizy 18,952 Posted August 17, 2024 Share Posted August 17, 2024 1 minute ago, Mhsc said: Why so desperate for us to pay huge money for Osimhen and put him on a super expensive contract? With his injury record? And one season in his career where everything he touched went in? In Italy? We've seen so many players fail to even get close to their performance in either Italy or the Bundesliga when coming to PL - some do, some don't. Huge risk to pay big for him imo, could set us back for years if it goes wrong. I don't get the desperation personally. It is Napoli that are desperate, not us. Not desperate at all from me. Just think it lined up perfectly for us to get him on a significant discount compared to what his price was even a few months ago. I’m skeptical he will reach world class level too but for Lukaku as part exchange to lower the fee it’s something we probably shouldn’t pass up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,147 Posted August 17, 2024 Share Posted August 17, 2024 31 minutes ago, Vesper said: Inter Milan Identify Out-Of-Contract Ligue 1 Striker Jonathan David As Early Tranfer Target For Next Summer https://sempreinter.com/2024/08/16/inter-milan-identify-jonathan-david-early-transfer-target-next-summer/ All that speculation around a month ago about several teams interested, however not one official bid for a player who is a good age, not high wages and not high fee. Wonder what it is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,098 Posted August 17, 2024 Share Posted August 17, 2024 1 minute ago, Stats said: All that speculation around a month ago about several teams interested, however not one official bid for a player who is a good age, not high wages and not high fee. Wonder what it is... Imo Jonathon & his agent probably told all suitors that he is moving on a free in 2025 and not interested in any move before then, told them to wait and talk in Jan. That's what I'd do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,098 Posted August 17, 2024 Share Posted August 17, 2024 7 minutes ago, Pizy said: Not desperate at all from me. Just think it lined up perfectly for us to get him on a significant discount compared to what his price was even a few months ago. I’m skeptical he will reach world class level too but for Lukaku as part exchange to lower the fee it’s something we probably shouldn’t pass up. If PSG come in with a big offer and take him off their hands for stupid money then that should just unlock a Lukaku transfer with them paying full price for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,720 Posted August 17, 2024 Share Posted August 17, 2024 12 minutes ago, Stats said: All that speculation around a month ago about several teams interested, however not one official bid for a player who is a good age, not high wages and not high fee. Wonder what it is... The more I watched of him, the more I understood why no one has gone for him. He goes missing. Its like playing with one less player. He can pop up at the right moment every now and then, but he does so much wrong on the pitch. Far better poachers out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,098 Posted August 17, 2024 Share Posted August 17, 2024 (edited) edit: oops wrong thread Edited August 17, 2024 by Mhsc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,077 Posted August 17, 2024 Share Posted August 17, 2024 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Pizy said: Not desperate at all from me. Just think it lined up perfectly for us to get him on a significant discount compared to what his price was even a few months ago. I’m skeptical he will reach world class level too but for Lukaku as part exchange to lower the fee it’s something we probably shouldn’t pass up. The question is not what his price was at any time in the past, the question is what is his value now. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder of course, but in my eye that value is a good deal less Lukaku + Casadei + £50m. For a player with a big salary and few, if any, other potential buyers, that's a ludicrous transfer fee to pay. Sooner or later we are going to have to break the cycle of putting ourselves in desperate situations, then allowing clubs to exploit our self-imposed difficulties. Ending that cycle might cost us a fortune in salaries paid, and transfer fees lost. Not ending it will cost us a heck of a lot more, financially and sportingly Edited August 17, 2024 by OhForAGreavsie Mhsc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,952 Posted August 17, 2024 Share Posted August 17, 2024 4 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: The question is not what his price was at any time in the past, the question is what is his value now. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder of course, but in my eye that value is a good deal less Lukaku + Casadei + £50m. For a player with a big salary cost and few, if any, other potential buyers, that's a ludicrous price to pay. Sooner or later we are going to have to break the cycle of putting ourselves in desperate situations, then allowing clubs to exploit our self-imposed difficulties. Ending that cycle might cost us a fortune in salaries paid and transfer fees lost. Not ending it will cost us a heck of a lot more. Eh. If anything I’d say Napoli are the ones in sort of a desperate situation, not us. They’re the ones who have the striker who has already told them he wants to leave and they’re the ones who desperately want a striker we have. We don’t need Osimhen, whereas if they don’t get Lukaku their fiery manager will explode. Up until PSG lost Ramos we actually had quite a bit of leverage since no other big clubs were apparently in for Osimhen. Now PSG can take Osimhen off their hands and we’re either forced to sell Napoli Lukaku or be forced to keep his ass and his monster wages rotting in the reserves for a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,077 Posted August 17, 2024 Share Posted August 17, 2024 1 minute ago, Pizy said: Eh. If anything I’d say Napoli are the ones in sort of a desperate situation, not us. They’re the ones who have the striker who has already told them he wants to leave and they’re the ones who desperately want a striker we have. We don’t need Osimhen, whereas if they don’t get Lukaku their fiery manager will explode. Up until PSG lost Ramos we actually had quite a bit of leverage since no other big clubs were apparently in for Osimhen. Now PSG can take Osimhen off their hands and we’re either forced to sell Napoli Lukaku or be forced to keep his ass and his monster wages rotting in the reserves for a year. I agree with your summation of Napoli's situation. All the more reason not to allow ourselves to be exploited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted August 17, 2024 Share Posted August 17, 2024 4 hours ago, TheHulk said: Ffs you’re joking. Liverpools 3/4th choice CB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,225 Posted August 17, 2024 Share Posted August 17, 2024 45 minutes ago, Mhsc said: Imo Jonathon & his agent probably told all suitors that he is moving on a free in 2025 and not interested in any move before then, told them to wait and talk in Jan. That's what I'd do. that is the only thing I can think of the lad is FAR better than some of the haters (no clue why they are so) here seem to think an absolute steal for around £20-25m smdh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,225 Posted August 17, 2024 Share Posted August 17, 2024 (edited) I cannot recall such disarray in most of the top valued teams in terms of out and out CFs (or lack of depth for some sides) Inter are set, Atletico Madrid are now super solid, and Manure are probably ok now that they added Zirkzee, but............ Citeh now have nothing if Håland goes down, literally nothing, not even a false nine type, which is just crazy Real have Mbappe forced to play CF (granted he can do so better than most all others out there) Arse have shit Jesus and have false 9 Kai as the starter (granted he has been really good there the past 6 months and scored already today) we are in total flux and uncertainty Barca have an now rapidly ageing Lewa and if the strugglinf Vitor leaves, some scub backup only PSG now have injury crisis (bye bye Osimhen chances I fear) Pool have only the overrated Darwin Núñez, no backup at all, only the winger Jota or another winger like Gapko as a false nine Bayern have no backup for Kane, they would have to shift Mathys Tel back to CF, which I do grant is probably his natural postion anyway Spuds, reamins to be seen, Solanke has never done it on a big side AC Milan are fucked if Morata goes down as Jovic is simply not good enough Edited August 17, 2024 by Vesper Mhsc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkh 601 Posted August 17, 2024 Share Posted August 17, 2024 JUST IN: Chelsea are set to pay Atletico Madrid a fixed fee of €50m plus €5m in bonuses for João Félix. Negotiations have reached the final stretch. [🥇: @rubenuria] OneMoSalah and whats happening 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceboy 1,019 Posted August 17, 2024 Share Posted August 17, 2024 It looks like we are getting Felix for 50M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,225 Posted August 17, 2024 Share Posted August 17, 2024 7 minutes ago, iceboy said: It looks like we are getting Felix for 50M £42.5m + £4m in possible add-ons not outrageous and now Conor will go through and I consider LW upgraded and surely now one of Sterling or Muddy goes hopefully Sterling as his 17m per year wages are insane bigbluewillie and mkh 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,225 Posted August 17, 2024 Share Posted August 17, 2024 5 hours ago, TheHulk said: FUCK NO hell no absolutely NOT I will go bonkers Mhsc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,225 Posted August 17, 2024 Share Posted August 17, 2024 this shit enrages me Contract option: Obligation to buy with conditions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,062 Posted August 17, 2024 Share Posted August 17, 2024 (edited) 3 hours ago, Vesper said: Dušan Vlahović and Isak are the clear best CFs left if VO is going to PSG but so late in the window The latter would probably command a big transfer fee unless we stupidly (IMO) offered Madueke in the deal. I honestly wouldn't be shocked if the Osimhen doesn't happen, we go again for Samu. Edited August 17, 2024 by LAM09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,952 Posted August 17, 2024 Share Posted August 17, 2024 25 minutes ago, LAM09 said: The latter would probably command a big transfer fee unless we stupidly (IMO) offered Madueke in the deal. I honestly wouldn't be shocked if the Osimhen doesn't happen, we go again for Samu. Which would be worst case scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,225 Posted August 17, 2024 Share Posted August 17, 2024 Jhon Duran looked great today, scored the game winner bigbluewillie and Stats 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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