Jase 43,479 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Just now, communicate said: The real problem is not Lampard not trusting Giroud. The problem is Lamp not trusting michy to start game. You're just going around in circles. The situation is largely the same. If we sell Batshuayi and get what Lampard wants, the replacement will likely start games, come on Abraham as sub etc with Giroud remaining as 3rd choice. If we sell Giroud and get what Lampard wants, that replacement will likely be 2nd choice - moving ahead of Batshuayi - and be trusted to start games, come out to make a difference etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Even if we buy a good striker, he or Tammy will get worse eventually after a season or so. Just like Jesus from City got worse when Aguero became their main striker again. If you do not play enough, you will get worse. At top clubs like Real, City, Barcelona etc. you do not rotate your main striker as much. So Jovic got worse, Jesus got worse and at Chelsea, Michy got worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,184 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 hour ago, communicate said: I don't know about signing a 19 year old striker. When we have Tammy. so you are saying we can only roll with one decent striker? and there are zero reasons the two of them could not play together as well if we sold Bats and Giroud there is no reason that we cannot go froward with two potentially great strikers if we do not sell Bats (Giroud is gone) we are always going to have shit when Tammy doesnt play it really is as simple as that and dog help us if Tammy regresses also dog help us if Manure gets Håland and he goes all global superstar level 16.8m quid makes this a no brainer I do not want to be sitting here a year from now with Tammy injured (or drop in form) and we have fuckall at CF (which is pretty much where we at at now, as Giroud and Bats have been absolute pants for the most part and I am sick and tired of rolling dice on them hoping they have their one in ten good games on the day they have to play) Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 33 minutes ago, Jason said: You're just going around in circles. The situation is largely the same. If we sell Batshuayi and get what Lampard wants, the replacement will likely start games, come on Abraham as sub etc with Giroud remaining as 3rd choice. If we sell Giroud and get what Lampard wants, that replacement will likely be 2nd choice - moving ahead of Batshuayi - and be trusted to start games, come out to make a difference etc. We are not talking about signing a 25+ player backup, we are talking about signing an etoo type. A 33+ year old downhill striker who is willing to play for a one year contract. If you play him as 2nd choice, michy won't be happy. We are pretty much left with Tammy and an old striker. If Tammy is injured for just one month, we are pretty much screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 18 minutes ago, Vesper said: so you are saying we can only roll with one decent striker? and there are zero reasons the two of them could not play together as well if we sold Bats and Giroud there is no reason that we cannot go froward with two potentially great strikers if we do not sell Bats (Giroud is gone) we are always going to have shit when Tammy doesnt play it really is as simple as that and dog help us if Tammy regresses also dog help us if Manure gets Håland and he goes all global superstar level 16.8m quid makes this a no brainer I do not want to be sitting here a year from now with Tammy injured (or drop in form) and we have fuckall at CF (which is pretty much where we at at now, as Giroud and Bats have been absolute pants for the most part and I am sick and tired of rolling dice on them hoping they have their one in ten good games on the day they have to play) We need two striker, but not one 19 and one 22. Youngster need game time to develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,184 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, communicate said: We need two striker, but not one 19 and one 22. Youngster need game time to develop. I do not believe this to be the case, and Håland is so cheap we could also bring in a pure ageing vet for emergency cover. If we now have the chance to buy him for peanuts, it is madness to not try and block Manure. Håland is a beast physically and I am more than willing to go through growing pains to reap his type of talent. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 18 minutes ago, communicate said: We are not talking about signing a 25+ player backup, we are talking about signing an etoo type. A 33+ year old downhill striker who is willing to play for a one year contract. If you play him as 2nd choice, michy won't be happy. We are pretty much left with Tammy and an old striker. If Tammy is injured for just one month, we are pretty much screwed. You're confusing this with Tomo's own suggestion. The main point here is getting a striker that Lampard can trust to step in for Abraham when needed - be it through rotation or providing competition for the main spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 All this talks about which striker we should buy in January. Problem is our main target and other big names will not be available this time. So, got the feeling we will made another loan with option to buy signing like Higuain, in Jovic or Zaha to replace Giroud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,490 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Jason said: You're confusing this with Tomo's own suggestion. The main point here is getting a striker that Lampard can trust to step in for Abraham when needed - be it through rotation or providing competition for the main spot. Problem with a quality second striker is that it could lead to squad problems down the line. Arsenal have Laca and Auba, and constantly play Auba out of position. City have Jesus and Aguero and neither wants to be on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, Strike said: Problem with a quality second striker is that it could lead to squad problems down the line. Arsenal have Laca and Auba, and constantly play Auba out of position. City have Jesus and Aguero and neither wants to be on the bench. Juggling between 2 or even 3 strikers is always a tricky business but we don't want to have a huge difference in quality between them, do we? If people are fine with having competition for places in other areas of the squad, then a little competition upfront wouldn't be the worst thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Jason said: But who out there right now fits that bill? It's upto our well paid scouts to find and identify. They'll almost certainly be someone of decent profile out there, for example, if we were searching for a striker in 2015 would you have thought of Firmino? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Just now, Tomo said: It's upto our well paid scouts to find and identify. They'll almost certainly be someone of decent profile out there, for example, if we were searching for a striker in 2015 would you have thought of Firmino? But I want to hear YOUR suggestion. GIVE US NAMES! Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,490 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 47 minutes ago, Jason said: But I want to hear YOUR suggestion. GIVE US NAMES! 2015 Firmino is a classic Tomo example tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Tomo 21,751 Posted December 7, 2019 Popular Post! Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Jason said: But I want to hear YOUR suggestion. GIVE US NAMES! Pay me the wages our scouts get and I'll go and bring loads of suggestions. Milan, Strike, Blue Armour and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,184 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Amazing balance by Kovacic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 + Sancho also scored 2 and assisted 1 for Dortmund today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicco 927 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Just now, Jason said: + Sancho also scored 2 and assisted 1 for Dortmund today. Zaha it is then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Just now, Nicco said: Zaha it is then. Yes please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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