robsblubot 3,595 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Clockwork said: Mata career after Chelsea says everything about him, he was a nice tidy player with no lungs. He was overrated asf, one of the best decisions Chelsea ever made. I don’t agree putting Csec and Mata in the same category. Cesc is one of the best PL midfielders ever. Fair enough. I rated Fabregas higher than Mata actually. Overrated is a bit of an odd thing. You can think a player is excellent and still think he's overrated because other folks compare him to, say Messi. It's all relative. BTW, I never said Fabregas was overrated, just that he was a a bit single dimensional. Like you'd paid him with a very powerful and dynamic CM to balance out his weaknesses. He was a master at passing the football (maybe the best I've seen), and had vision as well. Just wish we had gotten him while he still had legs. Edited June 15, 2023 by robsblubot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,259 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 5 hours ago, Gundalf said: Saudis probably offer their officials some "extras" 🤑 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vesper 30,259 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 5 hours ago, TheHulk said: on loan! 🤬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 Just now, Vesper said: on loan! 🤬 wait ins't his contract running out anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,259 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, TheHulk said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vesper 30,259 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, robsblubot said: wait ins't his contract running out anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,506 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 Surely if Havertz goes we will get another attacker like Diaby right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,506 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 Wish we'd get his more talented brother Wirtz, he is basically everything Havertz should've been. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, robsblubot said: Fair enough. I rated Fabregas higher than Mata actually. Overrated is a bit of an odd thing. You can think a player is excellent and still think he's overrated because other folks compare him to, say Messi. It's all relative. BTW, I never said Fabregas was overrated, just that he was a a bit single dimensional. He was a master at passing the football, and had vision as well.Just wish we had gotten him while he still had legs. Agreed, understandable he was playing 90 minutes of football week in and week out as a 16 year old in the PL. I get what you are saying it is relative, I think Modric is/was unbelievably great CM but I think he is overrated if you think he is in the same tier as Xavi. Edited June 15, 2023 by Clockwork robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,259 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, TheHulk said: Surely if Havertz goes we will get another attacker like Diaby right? 🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, TheHulk said: Wish we'd get his more talented brother Wirtz, he is basically everything Havertz should've been. dominik szoboszlai Is another player I would like us to go after to replace Havertz/Mount, left footed AM that would be perfect to play on the right side. Vesper, LAM09 and DH1988 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,259 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, TheHulk said: Wish we'd get his more talented brother Wirtz, he is basically everything Havertz should've been. Wirtz (granted was injured for a big chunk of the early season) had ONE league goal in pinball Bundesliga in 1100 league minutes 3 Europa League goals v Monaco, then Monaco in the return leg, and Union SG 1800 minutes, 4 goals deffo not rating him atm until I see a great rebound season he looked for shit the end of the year, especially against Mou and Roma was bullied about like a schoolboy these are his 3 seasons he was great in 2021/22, but then blew out his knee not convinced he is fully recovered to pre injury form Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,984 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 Man, we’re going to have a completely new team at this point. It’s going to feel like starting from scratch just even more so than this past season. I just pray that Poch is having HEAVY influence on incoming players and it’s not just the scouting and directors buying guys who they hope he can work magic on. Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,259 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 18 minutes ago, Clockwork said: dominik szoboszlai Is another player I would like us to go after to replace Havertz/Mount, left footed AM that would be perfect to play on the right side. I have rated him for ages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,259 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 5 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: If someone has potential to be new KDB or Salah it's him. yes if you mean or Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,259 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 4 hours ago, milka said: We will sell half of our team to the top 4 teams and including Gallagher at Tottenham and Colwill at Brighton this club will reach new heights in its amateurism if this happen Boehly's powering up Blue Armour and bigbluewillie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,259 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 4 hours ago, Gundalf said: Talking about typical average english forward: does anyone know what will happen to CHO? Chelsea’s Hudson-Odoi on Lazio’s List of Summer Targets https://thelaziali.com/2023/06/09/hudson-odoi-on-lazios-list/ Maurizio Sarri has identified Chelsea’s Callum Hudson-Odoi as a good fit for his Lazio squad this summer. The 22-year-old English winger was sent to Bundesliga outfit Bayer Leverkusen on loan last summer but struggled to show his best in Germany, scoring just one goal and providing one assist in 21 appearances across all competitions. Once a highly rated prospect, Hudson-Odoi’s stocks have dropped in recent years, but Sarri remembers the player well from their time together at Chelsea in the 2017-18 campaign. As reported by Radiosei (via LazioNews24), Bayer Leverkusen have decided not to sign Hudson-Odoi, so he’ll return to Chelsea later this month. The Englishman’s contract expires with the Premier League side in 2024, forcing them to look for possible buyers. Valued at around €12-15 million, Sarri would like Lazio to pick up the 22-year-old, believing he’d be able to relaunch the player’s career in the Italian capital after a difficult few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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